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Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

I still don't see how Gremmy can beat the Juubi; the completed Juubi that was sealed by the moon.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@taichokage: He didn't necessarily dodge, he blocked her movements in time so her telegraphed attacks wouldn't connect. And Madara is still faster, and considering his arrogance, he's going to get hit by Madara and if that happens it's over.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@taichokage said:

It's the same double standard I speak about when it comes to Bleach vs the other big 2. Everyone was so quick to accept Guy's space distorting punch as legit, but claim Aizen's distorting Kurohitsugi was hyperbole.

It's hyperbole, otherwise Kurohitsugi would be a black hole.

@luthluth said:

@GeneralVan: Because Kenpachi can easily slash things harder than steel. I love how you quickly resort to it being PIS. The Juubi never busted a country just mountain ranges what makes you think Madara can? Lets exclude the wank and exaggeration. When has anyone in Naruto busted the average size country which is about 767,731 square kilometers (296,422 square miles). And you know whats funny people skip straight from country to continental level all the time.

Gremmy is very slow, and as of already stated, he needs physical contact for his hax to work, but he's never going to be able to touch Madara seeing he can't even keep up with Kenpachi without creating barriers (One of the slowest Captains)

Mountain ranges? What do you call destroying an entire field of mountains, forests, and towns together then? And the Juubi's very last BD should be scaled as High Country Level, the size was incredibly large; larger than the others it shot, and dwarfed the other tailed beasts in comparison, it's too bad we didn't see its effects since Minato used FTG to teleport it.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@luthluth said:

@5th: We cant simply deny one of the fastest and most experienced characters in the verse. Pixel scaling is not always concrete. In the spiritual world of bleach there is no curvature since Soul Society isn't known to be on a planet.

Midora/Ichiryuu called these land masses drifting continents and in this extract you see hes tongue splitting part of it which suppose to be hundreds of miles long yet it only looks like a few hundred meters from my perspective, even the animals looked relatively large compared to it. This extract shows character statements > visuals. The same logic can be applied to the size of the Seireitei.

Next week will tell where the battle truly goes for me.

By curvature I refer to the barrier, we don't even know the size of the meteorite yet.

You can't compare two entirely different art styles to one another, the scan of Midora slicing land masses of drifting continents doesn't compare because it's from his perspective.

Statements are statements, not facts unless they're proven, the hill and towers being visible is too consistent to be a visual flux.

We are also forgetting how Byakuya's fight with Ichigo in the Soul Society arc was visible at the ledge of the hill.

Either way, I don't see Seireitei being the size of a country or continent for that matter, maybe a state but not a country.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@DevilMayhem666: Was that in an earlier interview before the war? I'm not quite sure if the series will end that way since Sasuke has no reason now to fight Naruto, unless the two just spar, I can see the series ending with Naruto and Sasuke having one last fight, running at each other and CUT FIN

But the way things are going, I don't think Sasuke's going to fight Naruto.

I just really hope Madara lives up to his hype in this form before he's killed.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@luthluth said:

@katanalauncher: FGT Ichigo, Monster Aizen and Yamamoto would fuck up Madara good at the same time from what I have seen so far tho things could change next week. Madara seems much weaker than Juubito in my opinion. Gremmy can summon a meteorite that can destroy all of the Seireitei which is suppose to be country sized seeing how Yoruichi Shihōin a former captain said that it would take "at least 10 days" to reach the various gates positioned around it, this is a fact that cannot be over looked. Also Gremmy stated that he would be able to survive the level of destruction of such a caliber. Gremmy hasent even gone vollstanding yet which is pretty insane. I guess its best to see how things unravel next week, Gremmy could be weaker than it seems or he could do more epic shit and I am sure Madara aint going to go out like no bitch being the final villain of Naruto.

We do not know if Gremmy even has Vollstandig (considering Juha Bach had him locked, he might've limited the boy) but he could imagine his.

Problem with what Yoruichi said was that it contradicts both the shrine of penitence and the sogyoku hill being visible from beyond the gates.

We still don't know the size and scale of the meteorite, that's just a photoshop of the barrier pasted with the meteorite and the showing curvature of the barrier , so you can't use that because it's inconsistent.

Gremmy's meteorite requires his fullest concentration given he needed a clone in order to summon it, Madara being massively faster than Gremmy shouldn't have a problem with incapacitating him.

Madara can just go for the kill the instant the match starts, and that kill requiring only one hit because of molecular destruction.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@taichokage said:

No I wouldn't. Taking out those 3 is harder than taking out Madara alone. Still he could beat any of them 1 on 1. Why not? Bones into cookies = the end for any of them. Gremmy shares Madara's immense cockiness. In character either one has a shot. But bloodlusted it would be over the minute Gremmy imagines it is over.

You seriously like using that argument a lot but what you're forgetting is that Gremmy requires physical contact, otherwise, it doesn't work.

And Madara has regeneration, turning his bones to cookies won't stop his bones from regenerating back to their former forms.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

Whoever moves first wins.

If Madara decides to take his time and atomize Gremmy then it's over, if Gremmy gets enough time to realize his opponent's strength then he imagines himself not dying.

But either way, I think Madara could kill Gremmy with a single hit.

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Battles » Juubito vs Raditz

A group of Saibaman can destroy the HST xD

Raditz alone could destroy any character 1 vs. 1, but solo'ing is impossible, too much hax.

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Battles » Butters Stotch Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux Vs Jake The Dog

@taichokage: Lol xD I love South Park, there was an episode where aliens were attempting to destroy earth with a giant bull dozer.

And now that I look at it, Gremmy seems like the anime version of Butters.

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Battles » Butters Stotch Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux Vs Jake The Dog

Butter solos the HST, the guy used his imagination to erase all imaginations before recreating all imaginations with his imagination (lol)

Gremmy's shit out of luck.

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Battles » Juubi Madara, 8 Gates Mighty Guy Vs Current Kenpachi

@taichokage: He's pretty unimaginative despite being a kid.

And yeah I see what you're saying.

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Battles » Juubi Madara, 8 Gates Mighty Guy Vs Current Kenpachi

@taichokage: I don't think he even needs to destroy it since it's Gremmy's imagination, and in order for Gremmy to imagine something at that magnitude it requires his focus (explaining the clone) really, all Kenpachi has to do is incapacitate both the Gremmy's so their imagination doesn't exist.

Gremmy also has to imagine the impact of the meteorite, the speed, and devastation it can cause, and it looks like he made it clear he intended to destroy Seireitei with it so the impact might not be all it turns out to be if it does hit.

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Battles » Juubi Madara, 8 Gates Mighty Guy Vs Current Kenpachi

@Zerogodlike said:

@5th:

Their is a difference Between A character saying A specific size of a place due to fact the author is using that character to tell you how big The seiritei is.

The bleach site is fine also as long as the calc is valid OBD calcs are complete rubbish due to pixel scaling which is why no other site uses them unless you want to be laughed at because anyone can make up the distance of attacks.

You're saying that because pixel scaling doesn't always go the way you want, it's reliable versus calculating off from what you've heard off a character's statement,

A lot of other sites use them.

Yoruichi was verifying Chad's inquiry, If Kubo wanted to, he could've explained Seireitei's site in the Bleach Data book.

We still don't know how big the meteorite is, we've only seen it from the sky.

Even if Kenpachi cleaves it, it's still going to destroy Seireitei.

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Battles » Over The Limit!: AV Battle Community Vote Thread.

@takashichea said:

Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

Wow, that thread went over 100 posts in one day.

I would like to start a poll for this thread and vote for it to be open.

Please vote now.

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Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

@takashichea said:

@othus12: @5th:

You two need to stop and take a break. When you doing the quote by quote and breaking each other's argument, it means folks are at each other's throats. It's okay to say agree to disagree and move on.

I apologize if I've gotten out-of-point, I'm merely pointing out the fallacies in their claims.

@Zerogodlike said:

@5th:

The statement is valid because its basically just telling you how big the seiretei is and ALSO Yhwach hasn't even shown any feats besides killing yama so where are you going with this are you really that much of a naruto fanboy. that you believe that bleach cant reach those levels? Where is your proof that Juubi is large country level. we have the size of the seireitei because the author told us the size through the character Where are you getting Country level juubi anything from? None of the feats you showed Puts him on that level or even near it.

It doesn't prove anything, the statement is some of the worse I've seen because there's no proof. And that's what you're implying because Gremmy is apparently a life wiper, remember, Yhwach got injured from a pre-Bankai Ichigo. I've already posted my proof from the start of this thread but you've continuously ignored it up until now, all I see from you are statements and claims that don't follow and are contradicting to a lot of things from Bleach. I'm not fanboying, I'm going off feats.

@taichokage said:

E = Mc2. Mass and velocity matter. Kishi just failed to portray a meteor as it should have been. Madara too should be country level before the Jubi. And again, the Jubi and mountains are visible even when much of the planet's curvature is seen. That's totally off scale if it's an earth size planet.

I'm not sure what size Naruto's planet is, whether it's larger than earth or not I cannot answer because, well, there's not enough evidence to confirm this, but I have a feeling it might be larger because... there sure is a lot of land to occupy the worldly-threatening fights they have.

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Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

@othus12 said:

@5th: It's clearly visible

really that's your argument? the troposphere starts right from ground level so of course its visible lol. do you even have proof other than your imagination to even consider that bijuu dama is 20KM high?

how about we ask for someone else's opinion?

No, that's Hinata's byakugan's radius, you're being presumptuous, just because that's Hinata's limit doesn't mean it's everyones

hinata is above the average byakugan user. everyone knows that. comparing her with a fodder of the hyuga clan is pretty accurate IMO.

Hahaha! Seireitei the size of Germany, that's the most idiotic claim I've heard in the longest... you've disregarded my earlier statement of the hill and towers being visible.

like i said, the towers being visible have nothing to do. kubo fucked up the scale. he is not an arquitect nor an engineer. he is a mangaka. and as such he has to make his drawings understandable.

Again. How is the meteorite country level?

the meteorite that wiped out the dinosaurs had a diameter of 10KM. this meteorite is at least 800KM long. no brainer dude.

Lol I'm wanking? Because all the sudden Gremmy is country level? Wouldn't that mean
Gremmy > Yhwach

do you even read bleach? Yhwach gave the stternritter their powers. that includes gremmy

Hahaha. Keep spouting bullshit and ignoring the feats I've posted, because the clouds being annihilated from the height of the BD's blast weren't obviously enough proof to you.

Hinata is still young, and you're still generalizing, so you're wrong here.

Kubo didn't fuck up anything, you're just going off a statement without any proof.

Mass doesn't matter, it's depends on the speed, Madara meteorites were considerably slow and yet did minimum damage despite having the actual potential to wipe out life on Naruto's earth.

I do, but what you're implying is

Gremmy > Yhwach, because thats all I hear coming from you when you say something as inane as Gremmy being a life wiper.

Again, where's your proof besides statements?

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Battles » Juubi Madara, 8 Gates Mighty Guy Vs Current Kenpachi

@Zerogodlike said:

@Jinbeifan1 said:

@taichokage: yeah but that's still only 2400 kms, that's not even big as Cooking Island

Heres a better one.

From chapter 76, Yoruichi states the four main entrances of Seireitei are 10 days walk apart. Given that humans tend to walk at 5.0 km/hr, this is roughly 1200 km or 744 miles.

Let's assume from numerous sources that the total geographic area of Seireitei has the shape of a circle and the outer gates are split evenly, therefore quartering the circle's arcs. This places one quarter of a circle's arc at 1200 km and the whole circumference of Seireitei at 4800 km. Seireitei has a diameter of 1528 km or 948 miles, roughly around the size of Mexico. In other words, Gremmy can destroy Mexico with one of his meteorites.

PS. I think Ikki is psychic he knew that kenpachi would be strong enough to take on the juubidara in a weeks time.

That statement was copied off the Bleach site, and that statement is utter bullshit too.

@5th said:

@Zerogodlike: It wasn't said by the author though, it was said by Yoruichi.

And that still doesn't disprove how both the shrine of penitence and the sogyoku hill are visible from beyond the gates.

^ This to counter your statement.

Thing about what you said is your relying on a character's statement versus having proof despite character's said statement contradicting something that's a fact (the Hill and Buildings being visible), you're basically surmising without any evidence to back up your statement.

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Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

People need to stop the hype, the meteorite hasn't even landed yet or done anything worth noting besides being regarded as having a large size.

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Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

@othus12 said:

@5th: : Where does the author state its size? If you're going to make a claim, you better have concrete evidence to follow.

oh the irony

the blast alone pierced the Troposphere

im gonna use the same argument as you: where does the author state it pierced the troposphere?

We don't know the Byakugan's radius

yes we do. it seems you dont know the series too well.

I don't know where you get your calcs from, they're absurd at that and totally off,

they are correct. even if you dont accept them.

Why is everyone so quick to accept Gremmy's meteorite as country level?

because its obvious. derp. so obvious everyone but the naruto fanboys can tell.

You're bad at calculating.

not really. if you check the calcs there is no asumption and no pixel scailing. im using FACTS like the range of the byakugan and the size of the seiretei for my calc. you were ignorant on those but that's not my fault.

@5th said:

@othus12: But it was still sealed into the moon and that's a fact.

that means nothing to me. i also dont see the scan where that happened.

It's clearly visible, you're completely in denial and can't realize it's the troposphere.

No, that's Hinata's byakugan's radius, you're being presumptuous, just because that's Hinata's limit doesn't mean it's everyones

Hahaha! Seireitei the size of Germany, that's the most idiotic claim I've heard in the longest... you've disregarded my earlier statement of the hill and towers being visible.

Again. How is the meteorite country level? Stop being dismissive and answer the damn question, otherwise, stop.

Facts? Your "facts" sound rather too silly to believe and are contradicted by a lot of plot holes within the series.

Lol I'm wanking? Because all the sudden Gremmy is country level? Wouldn't that mean

Gremmy > Yhwach

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