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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@Zerogodlike said:

@luthluth: @DevilMayhem666:

doesnt even matter now unless Madara can survive the vaccum of space hes finished he wont be able to move and he will die.

PS. the meteor is country level.

How is this fight going to take place in the vacuum of space?

P.S show me proof the meteor is country level

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Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

I still don't see how Gremmy's meteor quantifies as being country level and the fact that people are supporting it even makes it all the more crazier.

The meteor wasn't big to begin with, in fact, the barrier was perfectly intact but the upper center of the curvature of the barrier appeared to be the only destroyed part.

Yhwach didn't even budge an inch while Hashbrowns was terrified, that says a lot about the Stern Ritter.

People keep bringing up Toriko and different series, we're not talking about those series; those series are irrelevant.

Kenpachi casually destroying it with his shikai says enough.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@luthluth said:

@katanalauncher said:

@luthluth:

Even if you assume the meteor was already moving at sound speed the final speed would still be below mach 2.

True I used the v^2 = u^2 + 2as formula but I really don't think its below mach 5 take into consideration that's its glowing which signifies that its encountering air resistance just as you said and it should be covering more than 2000 meters per second, even the pixel scaling supports this.

You can't apply actual physics to this situation, Gremmy didn't pull the meteorite from space, he literally made it with his own mind and thusly created it in his own image.

The meteorite was quite slow to begin with, and considering how much of a speedster Madara is, he takes this before the kid even has a chance to process a thought.

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Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

@Zerogodlike: Kubo didn't use the days to walk, that was a statement made by Yourichi which contradicts the hill and towers being visible in the distance.

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Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

@taichokage: Gremmy contradicted himself entirely in this chapter by saying "Even if you kill me, the meteorite will still exist." I'm like, have you seriously forgotten that you made yourself immortal?

I'm also seeing this as a plot hole since it was clearly STATED by Gremmy himself that he requires focus in order for him to restrain his imagination's existence, otherwise it loses its effects (excluding living imaginations.)

I'm entirely not sure whether he was bluffing or not, not that it mattered since Kenpachi just lol fodderized the meteorite.

Texas might've not been the best scale, perhaps another state? Honestly, if only Kubo himself confirmed Seireitei's size.

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Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

@takashichea: @Dream: Didn't realize I was going overboard with my words, I apologize to those I've insulted.

@taichokage: While I will agree that Seireitei is larger than your average city, I will disagree that it's a country, a country would be something comparable to the US or Mexico, whichever works, I don't see Seireitei being that large.

However, by the looks of it, I'd put it at the size of Texas or less just because the population isn't very high and the way its consistently presented by Kubo.

I'll also agree that it's fast but not big, but mass doesn't matter when there's too much speed and velocity going into the meteor's descending from the sky.

I just don't see it as being country level or any higher, after all, Zaraki did destroy it with only his Shikai.

Post by 5th (1,196 posts) See mini bio Level 10

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Where do you guys get country level from? Kenpachi just destroyed a meteorite with his Shikai, unless you Gremmy wankers have valid proof that Seireitei is in fact a large country and the meteorite was capable of destroying countries, I strongly suggest you stop the silly wanking. For christ sake, where the hell do you idiots get country level from when all the meteorite did was make a crater through the CENTER of the barrier; I repeat, the CENTER of the barrier. If had the meteorite been the size of Seireitei, it would've displaced enough weight against the barrier to shatter all of it, instead, the longitude and mass of the meteorite wasn't shown to dwarf the barrier, in fact, the barrier dwarfed it.

@Xanxus said:

@5th said:

The meteorite was at least comparable to megatons, saying it's country level is stretching it a bit too far... The size and scale I would say was at least mountain level or higher, which is an impressive feat for Kenpachi since it's been confirmed that Kenpachi can casually destroy mountains with Shikai.

Thats far bigger than any mountain in the world. And its hypersonic+ speed gives it country-multi country level force.

The Juubi is multi mountain or Island level at most so it gets fodderized.

How is the meteorite bigger than any mountain in the world? You're just an idiot for saying that considering the meteorite ONLY made a crater through the very central-top of the barrier, your argument is completely based on hype. And where exactly do you get hypersonic+ for? You really can't apply physics to the meteorite because it's Gremmy's imagination, and therefore only HE can decide its destructive potential. Seireitei isn't a multi-country, the meteorite was proved to be way smaller than it looked, and high mountain level would be the best given scale of the meteorite.

You bleach wankers are mad because the meteorite was actually small in both mass and its volume.

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Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

@Zerogodlike: By what the Sage and Kurama indicated, in the past the Juubi was continental, plus there's the post Devil made to reinforce it too.

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@Zerogodlike said:

@5th said:

@Zerogodlike said:

Senjustu naruto cut through it like butter its weak against anything that isnt ninjutsu related like i said which is why Naruto was able to inflict injury on madara Just like gai was able to because he doesn't nullify that form of damage. Also Feats over statements He said that it could do it But it never showed that power. Just because something was Sealed in the moon doesn't mean its a Continent buster you assume its for plot reasons unless it shows feats at that level. Large island level is the most i can see it as due to fact it didn't level any country or come close to it. Also size statements from the author aren't able to be disputed Just because you don't want bleach to be that powerful Doesn't make the size of the meteor some how become smaller downplay will get no where when the author has used days to walk twice in his manga to indicate size.

^ Totally irrelevant

Anyways, Devil already posted scans of the Juubi nuking countries, and Senjutsu Naruto isn't ordinary: he has all portions of the other tailed beasts chakra, Rikudou's chakra, and 100% Kurama's chakra, that feat alone puts him above a lot of characters.

Gai's kick was calculated to have a multi-mountain destructive potency, and considering he destroyed a giant branch of the Tree of Juubi shows how durable Madara Uchiha is, also the fact that Madara was tanking Rising Elephants.

Gremmy's meteorite got fodderized by Kenpachi's shikai, and by the scale of the meteorite it wasn't even that massive, I'd place it to a mountain level since the photoshop images you guys kept posting earlier were proven false by the crater today's chapter showed when the meteorite made impact.

Now your just being a downplaying naruto fan boy now i am glad you showed your real colors before we went any further Everyone just move along.

It's ironic that you're saying I'm downplaying Bleach when you've been downplaying Naruto in all those other threads and this one too.

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@Zerogodlike said:

@5th said:

@Zerogodlike said:

Senjustu naruto cut through it like butter its weak against anything that isnt ninjutsu related like i said which is why Naruto was able to inflict injury on madara Just like gai was able to because he doesn't nullify that form of damage. Also Feats over statements He said that it could do it But it never showed that power. Just because something was Sealed in the moon doesn't mean its a Continent buster you assume its for plot reasons unless it shows feats at that level. Large island level is the most i can see it as due to fact it didn't level any country or come close to it. Also size statements from the author aren't able to be disputed Just because you don't want bleach to be that powerful Doesn't make the size of the meteor some how become smaller downplay will get no where when the author has used days to walk twice in his manga to indicate size.

^ Totally irrelevant

Anyways, Devil already posted scans of the Juubi nuking countries, and Senjutsu Naruto isn't ordinary: he has all portions of the other tailed beasts chakra, Rikudou's chakra, and 100% Kurama's chakra, that feat alone puts him above a lot of characters.

Gai's kick was calculated to have a multi-mountain destructive potency, and considering he destroyed a giant branch of the Tree of Juubi shows how durable Madara Uchiha is, also the fact that Madara was tanking Rising Elephants.

Gremmy's meteorite got fodderized by Kenpachi's shikai, and by the scale of the meteorite it wasn't even that massive, I'd place it to a mountain level since the photoshop images you guys kept posting earlier were proven false by the crater today's chapter showed when the meteorite made impact.

Now your just being a downplaying naruto fan boy now i am glad you showed your real colors before we went any further Everyone just move along.

How am I downplaying? As of already said and shown, the photoshop image was totally off, calling the meteorite country level is beyond absurdity when it didn't even dispel the entire barrier, it only made a visible crater through the very center of the barrier.

Unless you're going to show me proof that that the meteorite was country level (which I repeat, has already been disproven) then stop with the silly nonsense.

The meteorite was at least comparable to megatons, saying it's country level is stretching it a bit too far... The size and scale I would say was at least mountain level or higher, which is an impressive feat for Kenpachi since it's been confirmed that Kenpachi can casually destroy mountains with Shikai.

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Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

@taichokage said:

I'm pretty sure they both are country level. Despite saying it was city level, the size of the Juubi biju dama completely contradicts the statement. However Gremmy is not done yet. His best has yet to come.

Statement? We saw the bomb indirectly fly over the town before engulfing the place in its radius, all the Hyuuga just did was confirm that a town was destroyed.

Those blasts the second form Juubi shot destroyed mountains, towns, and fields altogether.

Post by 5th (1,196 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

@Zerogodlike said:

Senjustu naruto cut through it like butter its weak against anything that isnt ninjutsu related like i said which is why Naruto was able to inflict injury on madara Just like gai was able to because he doesn't nullify that form of damage. Also Feats over statements He said that it could do it But it never showed that power. Just because something was Sealed in the moon doesn't mean its a Continent buster you assume its for plot reasons unless it shows feats at that level. Large island level is the most i can see it as due to fact it didn't level any country or come close to it. Also size statements from the author aren't able to be disputed Just because you don't want bleach to be that powerful Doesn't make the size of the meteor some how become smaller downplay will get no where when the author has used days to walk twice in his manga to indicate size.

^ Totally irrelevant

Anyways, Devil already posted scans of the Juubi nuking countries, and Senjutsu Naruto isn't ordinary: he has all portions of the other tailed beasts chakra, Rikudou's chakra, and 100% Kurama's chakra, that feat alone puts him above a lot of characters.

Gai's kick was calculated to have a multi-mountain destructive potency, and considering he destroyed a giant branch of the Tree of Juubi shows how durable Madara Uchiha is, also the fact that Madara was tanking Rising Elephants.

Gremmy's meteorite got fodderized by Kenpachi's shikai, and by the scale of the meteorite it wasn't even that massive, I'd place it to a mountain level since the photoshop images you guys kept posting earlier were proven false by the crater today's chapter showed when the meteorite made impact.

Post by 5th (1,196 posts) See mini bio Level 10

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Couldn't a bloodlusted Superman cause spontaneous combustion inside your brain with his laser beams? I remember him doing something similar to that where he heated someone's brain inside their head.

Just throwing that out there.

Post by 5th (1,196 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Juubi

I still don't see how Gremmy can beat the Juubi; the completed Juubi that was sealed by the moon.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@taichokage: He didn't necessarily dodge, he blocked her movements in time so her telegraphed attacks wouldn't connect. And Madara is still faster, and considering his arrogance, he's going to get hit by Madara and if that happens it's over.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@taichokage said:

It's the same double standard I speak about when it comes to Bleach vs the other big 2. Everyone was so quick to accept Guy's space distorting punch as legit, but claim Aizen's distorting Kurohitsugi was hyperbole.

It's hyperbole, otherwise Kurohitsugi would be a black hole.

@luthluth said:

@GeneralVan: Because Kenpachi can easily slash things harder than steel. I love how you quickly resort to it being PIS. The Juubi never busted a country just mountain ranges what makes you think Madara can? Lets exclude the wank and exaggeration. When has anyone in Naruto busted the average size country which is about 767,731 square kilometers (296,422 square miles). And you know whats funny people skip straight from country to continental level all the time.

Gremmy is very slow, and as of already stated, he needs physical contact for his hax to work, but he's never going to be able to touch Madara seeing he can't even keep up with Kenpachi without creating barriers (One of the slowest Captains)

Mountain ranges? What do you call destroying an entire field of mountains, forests, and towns together then? And the Juubi's very last BD should be scaled as High Country Level, the size was incredibly large; larger than the others it shot, and dwarfed the other tailed beasts in comparison, it's too bad we didn't see its effects since Minato used FTG to teleport it.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@luthluth said:

@5th: We cant simply deny one of the fastest and most experienced characters in the verse. Pixel scaling is not always concrete. In the spiritual world of bleach there is no curvature since Soul Society isn't known to be on a planet.

Midora/Ichiryuu called these land masses drifting continents and in this extract you see hes tongue splitting part of it which suppose to be hundreds of miles long yet it only looks like a few hundred meters from my perspective, even the animals looked relatively large compared to it. This extract shows character statements > visuals. The same logic can be applied to the size of the Seireitei.

Next week will tell where the battle truly goes for me.

By curvature I refer to the barrier, we don't even know the size of the meteorite yet.

You can't compare two entirely different art styles to one another, the scan of Midora slicing land masses of drifting continents doesn't compare because it's from his perspective.

Statements are statements, not facts unless they're proven, the hill and towers being visible is too consistent to be a visual flux.

We are also forgetting how Byakuya's fight with Ichigo in the Soul Society arc was visible at the ledge of the hill.

Either way, I don't see Seireitei being the size of a country or continent for that matter, maybe a state but not a country.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@DevilMayhem666: Was that in an earlier interview before the war? I'm not quite sure if the series will end that way since Sasuke has no reason now to fight Naruto, unless the two just spar, I can see the series ending with Naruto and Sasuke having one last fight, running at each other and CUT FIN

But the way things are going, I don't think Sasuke's going to fight Naruto.

I just really hope Madara lives up to his hype in this form before he's killed.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@luthluth said:

@katanalauncher: FGT Ichigo, Monster Aizen and Yamamoto would fuck up Madara good at the same time from what I have seen so far tho things could change next week. Madara seems much weaker than Juubito in my opinion. Gremmy can summon a meteorite that can destroy all of the Seireitei which is suppose to be country sized seeing how Yoruichi Shihōin a former captain said that it would take "at least 10 days" to reach the various gates positioned around it, this is a fact that cannot be over looked. Also Gremmy stated that he would be able to survive the level of destruction of such a caliber. Gremmy hasent even gone vollstanding yet which is pretty insane. I guess its best to see how things unravel next week, Gremmy could be weaker than it seems or he could do more epic shit and I am sure Madara aint going to go out like no bitch being the final villain of Naruto.

We do not know if Gremmy even has Vollstandig (considering Juha Bach had him locked, he might've limited the boy) but he could imagine his.

Problem with what Yoruichi said was that it contradicts both the shrine of penitence and the sogyoku hill being visible from beyond the gates.

We still don't know the size and scale of the meteorite, that's just a photoshop of the barrier pasted with the meteorite and the showing curvature of the barrier , so you can't use that because it's inconsistent.

Gremmy's meteorite requires his fullest concentration given he needed a clone in order to summon it, Madara being massively faster than Gremmy shouldn't have a problem with incapacitating him.

Madara can just go for the kill the instant the match starts, and that kill requiring only one hit because of molecular destruction.

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Battles » Juubi Madara Uchiha Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

@taichokage said:

No I wouldn't. Taking out those 3 is harder than taking out Madara alone. Still he could beat any of them 1 on 1. Why not? Bones into cookies = the end for any of them. Gremmy shares Madara's immense cockiness. In character either one has a shot. But bloodlusted it would be over the minute Gremmy imagines it is over.

You seriously like using that argument a lot but what you're forgetting is that Gremmy requires physical contact, otherwise, it doesn't work.

And Madara has regeneration, turning his bones to cookies won't stop his bones from regenerating back to their former forms.

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