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Post by 5th (1,508 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Jack Rakan vs Naruto EOS

I remember those days where Jack Rakan could solo the HST

those days are gone.

Post by 5th (1,508 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@CrimsonMoon said:

Again, bolded text to answer this "argument"...

@5th said:

Fallacy? I was merely pointing out that for Yamamoto's bankai to destroy everything it must take time, if he truly was all that powerful he would've destroyed everything from the second he released his bankai because the heat of the sun would be overpowering.

How are the limbo's not a shield for Madara? So you're saying is Yamamoto's going to be able to get in close quarters of Madara without first having to go through an invisible crowd of Madara's? Zanki no Tachi "West" doesn't make Yamamoto all the sudden invulnerable to everything, and even with the technique, Yamamoto didn't destroy soul society or everyone as a whole, everyone in the Soul Society wasn't feeling Yamamoto's reiatsu but the heat he was emitting, West is when he shields himself with the heat of the sun via his reiatsu.

Uhm... Naruto and Sasuke were barely handling Madara when he went all out on them, let alone stop him before he could release Tsuki no Me, plus he forgot to mention that the two protagonists are exceptions because of their Rinne/Juubi DNA that gave them the ability to see, sense, and touch his clones. Yamamoto isn't a juubi kin or rinne user, therefore he isn't doing anything to stop techniques like Rinbu Horin or Madara's limbo's that can keep him at bay.

Uhm... reiatsu crush is within verse equalization, okay then, Madara can just genjutsu Yamamoto at first glance? Even with the start of his bankai, he doesn't immediately pull out West that armors him. How about Madara genjutsu Yamamoto instead? Like I said, you have to be within his vicinity or touch to be burned by Yamamoto. And Madara has flight as well as the option of hiding in a Gudou Dama which I believe can keep Madara from harms away considering it has molecular eradicating properties.

Still haven't explained how Limbo wouldn't effect Yamamoto since they are beyond being touched or hurt, they exist on two separate plains at the same time, the only reason Sasuke or Naruto even had a chance of countering Limbo was because they had Juub/Rinne chakra to do so, otherwise, they wouldn't have been able to counter it at all.

Nothing you said counters my argument on Limbo being intangible and imperceptible.

About your "if he truly was that powerful", I'll apply it to Madara later in this quote I make of your post... >:3

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First, stop thinking of Yamamoto's Bankai as the sun or the heat of the sun. It's not the sun. It's an old Shinigami who sweats reiatsu at 15 million degrees. Get it on your heads already. Use logic and rationalize what I'm writing. Pfft. It's funny to read posts filled with negation, but this is just absurd. XDXDXD

They are not a shield because they don't and can't defend him against a simple reiatsu crush. As simple as that. That's why I said and even confirmed that I assumed the Limbos were capable of doing whatever Madara con do. What was my point? That it doesn't matter, because the Limbos can't protect him of reiatsu being at that temperature. There is no proof of the Limbos being capable of defending against a simple mechanic like reiatsu crush.

Remember what I posted above, about your "if he truly was that powerful"? Well, I'll use it here. If Madara was that powerful and if the Limbos were a so-called "perfect defense", why the hell didn't he just protect himself with his Limbos from the attacks of those two? Why the heck Black Zetsu managed to damage him? (which pretty much puts in retrospective his resistance, and in favor of my argument, the fact that he can't defend himself against something like reiatsu, when said Black Zetsu damages him pretty easily and without much trouble doing it). It doesn't matter that Yamamoto can't see his Limbos; it doesn't even matter that he can't damage them (nor that it was stated, but it doesn't even matter), because his reiatsu would be already burning Madara, and the Limbos can't block the reiatsu because they are not a shield which covers him, and the shiels that Madara uses was broken by Guy, which clearly proves that it can be affected by the simpliest attack, a physical one. I repeat, imagine what would be like going against 15 million degrees. Profit. (also, West is always activated)

Even if Madara can use genjutsu, it doesn't change the fact that genjutsu doesn't deactivate Yamamoto's bankai, and Madara won't survive not even less the time Madara need to deploy and use genjutsu. It's not like Madara has any way of stopping that reiatsu when Yamamoto, even under effects of genjutsu, would still burn him, which ironically, would dispel said genjutsu when Madara dies.

You only have to feel his reiatsu for Yamamoto to burn you with it, and you don't have any proof of Madara resisting that temperature. Even less avoid it, which is inexistent for him in the end. As simple as that.

I didn't say "Yamamoto is immune to the Limbo's skills". I said that Madara doesn't survive even with 10 Limbos or genjutsus, because he will burn just by feeling his reiatsu. Are you even reading what I'm posting? XDXDXD There are funny users in some places. Also, what they said in the maga was that only Sasuke and Naruto were capable of seeing or sensing them, respectively. It doesn't change the fact that the Limbos, or Madara himself, can't stop nor defend against something so simple like reiatsu.

It's like, everything I say it's a counter for your argument, which seems you posted without even reading what I wrote.

Reiatsu crush? So that's the basis of your argument,

1. If Yamamoto's reiatsu was sweating 15 million degrees then why didn't Soul Society get destroyed?

2. I read what I said, I'm just in disbelief of the fact that you disregard the fact that Madara can keep his distance, Yamamoto's reiatsu area of effect is limited to anyone that's within his vicinity or contact of his bankai, Jugram was in harm's way and survived with only the effects of sweating and dryness.

3. Reiatsu crush shouldn't even be a valid argument because that's against the rules of verse equalization, that's like saying any other Naruto character would win in a fight against anyone (a NLF) because they can cast genjutsu.

How is Yamamoto going to even land a step or two near Madara when Madara can cast intangible inter-dimensional objects that can stop his movements period or knock him away? Okay, you say Yamamoto can simply reiatsu crush or destroy Madara's limbo's via 15 million degree reiatsu but how can he do so if he can't even touch or see them? I did warn you that the Limbo's were above physical means meaning they can't be destroyed by any other means unless by Juubi Kins or Rikudou Sennin chakra.

How can Yamamoto land a blow when his movements will be still by limbo? And don't try to argue that Zetsu/Obito stabbed him, those are completely irrelevant topics that don't pertain to Madara's battling skills at all, it doesn't matter how you put it, Madara let his guard down, there's a difference between being caught off guard when not in battle and being caught off guard while in battle, it was merely for the plot's use of skipping Madara and going to Kaguya.

You can argue that Yamamoto has the ability to reiatsu crush Madara with the sun's heat but that doesn't change the undeniable fact that the environment Yamamoto was in wasn't effected by the 15 million degree heat, everything was just heating up as a result of his bankai's heat but not to deadly levels, not where Madara can't survive in.

Quincy Blut is impressive but As Nodt's miraculous recovery from absolute zero wasn't because of his Blut vene, there's nothing in his escape that implies he was using blut vene to escape that ice, it was his Vollstandig and his own will that he managed to remove himself from that ice. Otherwise, why wasn't there any showings of blut vene being used when he did escape? And the reiatsu crush argument can be countered by the fact that everyone in Soul Society didn't instantly burn up, even those with shit reiatsu, managed to live.

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Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@ALMIGHTY said:

@5th Yama has no defense against Madara's hax??? That's laughable.. Armor of the sun ?? Madara is getting eviscerated no way around it
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Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@CrimsonMoon said:

@5th said:

He wasn't holding back, I remember Yamamoto clearly stating that if he didn't put an end to their fight he would take Soul Society with him, where exactly does Yamamoto say he was holding back?

Okay, I specifically just stated that Madara's limbo are autopilot, therefore they act instantly without his control, what stops him from smacking Yamamoto to the edge of his existence and then ending him with a truth seeking ball?? From the beginning of the fight it was Lloyd evading and attempting to counter Yamamoto's flames with Quincy spells and techniques.

Still can't answer how Yamamoto's going to counter something as hax as Madara's limbos that can exist beyond the physical world, unless you're going to argue that Yamamoto has Juubi Kin or Rinne eyes to see them or touch them, then no, that's like when Sakura tried punching Madara, look what happened to her.

Distance doesn't matter, Madara's gonna tag Yamamoto with limbo regardless because it's imperceptible to normal means, don't try to drag the bullshit argument saying that Yamamoto destroying everything, that's only if he touches you with his bankai that he can really release the excruciating power of the Sun's radiance, otherwise, show me proof that Yamamoto can release the heat of the sun on everything, oh but there isn't, you're going off a claim and hype that was easily euthanized by Yhwach's cleverness.

Overall, there's no reason for Madara to just sit back and let his five invincible clones do the work while he throws some molecular munching hypersonic orbs at Yamamoto.

There's nothing in Yamamoto's gear besides his deadliness, that's going to bypass Madara's defense or offense.

Er, he was holding back since the moment, even you in this post, state that he would take Soul Society with him and everyone in Gotei 13 was scared as little girls because of that. Besides the clear fallacy on your part, it seems you didn't even read what I wrote.

I wasn't debating whether the Limbos were "autopilot" or something else. I was debating that the Limbos aren't a shield for him, and that the Limbos don't solve the problem of Madara being incapable of defending against 15 million degrees reiatsu. And I just say this for you not to forget it: Yamamoto's reiatsu isn't the sun and doesn't behave like the sun's heat; it behaves like reiatsu, which ironically, can also be invisible if Yamamoto wants it.

What stops Madara from using the so-called Limbos that spam killing ninjutsu? The same thing that stopped him when he didn't do that against two brats who were clearly inferior to them? Those brats being Sasuke and Naruto.

Still you can't answer how Madara would survive against an attack and mechanic like reiatsu crush that is backed up by a stated number in the manga, being 15 million degrees.

I'm not arguing that Yamamoto can "touch" nor "see" the Limbos, I don't really care about that. Read well what I'm writing; Madara can't solve the problem, with or without Limbos, of being erased out of existance as the manga states, just by feeling Yamamoto's reiatsu crush. Period.

So, you want something that shows how reiatsu can affect something? Did you read the part about Nanao-chan being crushed by Yamamoto's reiatsu in the Soul Society arc? Did you read the part about Ichigo feeling the pressure of the captains reiatsu being stronger than him? The same thing with Rukia on the hill against Aizen? Or every other part about reiatsu affecting merely by it's force? Apply that to Yamamoto, but with 15 million degrees along with whatever pressure that imposes. And to finish, add that you have like 3 people stating that Yamamoto would destroy Soul Society if he continued to use it.

And the reason why Yhwach used his "cleverness" is because that, even with Blut Vene, it's stupid to go against him directly or just being near him; so much that he needed previous knowledge of his bankai and a clone to face him. Pretty much the same wih Aizen, as he also needed something and a plan to just counter it.

Madara didn't "sit back and let his five invincible clones do the work while he throws some molecular munching hypersonic orbs", since he was clearly owned as I saw it.

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And yeah, there isn't much in Yamamoto's arsenal, just a walking eraser that can't be blocked by Limbos, Susano'o's or whatever defense you think Madara has. And I think mentioning it here would be overkill, but Madara didn't show a big resistance when Black Zetsu stabbed him. Imagine what would do 5 million degrees. Pfft.

Fallacy? I was merely pointing out that for Yamamoto's bankai to destroy everything it must take time, if he truly was all that powerful he would've destroyed everything from the second he released his bankai because the heat of the sun would be overpowering.

How are the limbo's not a shield for Madara? So you're saying is Yamamoto's going to be able to get in close quarters of Madara without first having to go through an invisible crowd of Madara's? Zanki no Tachi "West" doesn't make Yamamoto all the sudden invulnerable to everything, and even with the technique, Yamamoto didn't destroy soul society or everyone as a whole, everyone in the Soul Society wasn't feeling Yamamoto's reiatsu but the heat he was emitting, West is when he shields himself with the heat of the sun via his reiatsu.

Uhm... Naruto and Sasuke were barely handling Madara when he went all out on them, let alone stop him before he could release Tsuki no Me, plus he forgot to mention that the two protagonists are exceptions because of their Rinne/Juubi DNA that gave them the ability to see, sense, and touch his clones. Yamamoto isn't a juubi kin or rinne user, therefore he isn't doing anything to stop techniques like Rinbu Horin or Madara's limbo's that can keep him at bay.

Uhm... reiatsu crush is within verse equalization, okay then, Madara can just genjutsu Yamamoto at first glance? Even with the start of his bankai, he doesn't immediately pull out West that armors him. How about Madara genjutsu Yamamoto instead? Like I said, you have to be within his vicinity or touch to be burned by Yamamoto. And Madara has flight as well as the option of hiding in a Gudou Dama which I believe can keep Madara from harms away considering it has molecular eradicating properties.

Still haven't explained how Limbo wouldn't effect Yamamoto since they are beyond being touched or hurt, they exist on two separate plains at the same time, the only reason Sasuke or Naruto even had a chance of countering Limbo was because they had Juub/Rinne chakra to do so, otherwise, they wouldn't have been able to counter it at all.

Nothing you said counters my argument on Limbo being intangible and imperceptible.

Post by 5th (1,508 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@CosmicKnight75: How about Limbo? Yamamoto won't have any chances to even touch Madara.

Post by 5th (1,508 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@CosmicKnight75: As my point can be argued on Yamamoto, Yamaoto has no defenses against Madara nor does he have the efficient hax to counter his hax.

And that's why Madara would win.

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Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@CosmicKnight75 said:

@ohplease: What stopping Madara from getting grilled? I know it sounds like were going back and forth, but while Madara needs to actually use the technique likely after figuring out Yama's power he wont even know, all Yama has to do is stand.

@5th: This goes for you too on why everything wasnt completely destroyed. He had all the power focused in his body, blade, and anything he directs his power too while the opponent still needed an actual defense that was blocking temeperatures literally stated to be 15,000,000 degrees Celcius.

@EG_Sage:

Doesnt make it any different then Natural Absolute Zero. Doesnt make it any difference that Blute Vene is an actual defense, and a broken one at that as high versions of it break down and absorb surrounding matter as an added defense. Kubo didnt just throw in a number without knowing the significance of it when here he clearly is.

Proved my point, that's his bankai, it focuses the heat of the sun on one single point, that's what I said earlier.

Rukia is irrelevant.

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Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@CosmicKnight75: Clearly I asked you for the feat of Yamamoto releasing the sun's temperature on everything or using it in the case of it destroying everything? Oh wait. There isn't.

Plus everyone in the Soul Society lived.

And although Lloyd wasn't burned to the crisp, his body was intact.

I'm not saying Juubidara can survive a hit from Yamamot because he can't, I'm aware of that, but what I'm saying is that Yamamoto doesn't necessarily have the right powers to counter someone that can literally attack you without any drawbacks.

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Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@CosmicKnight75 said:

@5th said:

The bleach hypers on this site are unbearable, debating isn't fun, it's just painful when people choose bullshit over facts, or can't counter an argument with good reasoning.

It's funny you say that as I'm literally arguing exactly against that.

Meanwhile Yama is actually the one with the feats ironically ;)

Still no proof, sadly.

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Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@CosmicKnight75 said:

@5th: No reason to say he doesnt get burned before he can even make a jutsu since again 15,000,000 degrees or Absolute Zero >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything Juubidara's taken

Yama was gonna burn down Soul Society the moment he lost control over his power, until then he had it focused into his blade and body as armor while repressing as much damage as possible, something again he couldnt do for long.

How can he be burned down when he's going to be sitting and watching his clones do the work? What makes you think someone of Madara's caliber would even resort to facing Yamamoto, his best bet are his limbo clones.

Uhm, that's totally irrelevant, I'm bringing up the fact that Madara can just dish out as many hax techniques as possible while Yamamoto is limited to only his bankai, what exactly have you said that's going to counter the fact that Madara can throw out invincible clones and keep Yamamoto at bay while he hatches some land masses on top?

Unfortunately, those are the only given feats of Yamamoto, therefore your claim is inadequate, there's nothing to suggest Yamamoto has the power to fry everything otherwise he would've destroyed not only Soul Society, but the planet they were on too. (if Soul Society even is on a planet.)

Durability is irrelevant when your opponent is haxer or faster than you.

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Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

The bleach hypers on this site are unbearable, debating isn't fun, it's just painful when people choose bullshit over facts, or can't counter an argument with good reasoning.

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Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@CrimsonMoon said:

@5th said:

Uhm... Limbo is an inter-dimensional clone that exists on two plains of existence and is intangible to any physical means, what rationality did you use before saying Madara wasn't going to be able to touch Yamamoto when all he has to do is literally sit back and let his clones do the work?

Yeah, Yamamoto's being overly hyped here, to the point you think he's LITERALLY a walking sun, had that been the case, soul society and everyone in it, would've been dead.

Sternritter blut can tank Yamamoto's heat, so why can't Madara who's dealt with kicks that can split a giant branch off the God Tree?

Pretty sure if Yamamoto literally had the heat of the sun at that scale, he would've killed Juha Bach's clone from the beginning, with everyone in Soul Society, unless you're implying everyone in Soul Society and survive within being several kilometers or miles from the sun, then no.

Has everyone forgotten that Madara has the upper hand in this fight no matter what? He lets the hurt on Yamamoto via limbos and truth seeking balls.

Clones or not, we clearly didn't see and it wasn't stated that Madara has any advantage besides numbers while using Limbo, because he literally stood there, doing nothing because his Limbos were there.

Now repeat the same thing but with Yamamoto, and his reiatsu at 15 million degrees with reiatsu crush.

Er, it is stated that he would literaly destroy Soul Society. Also, you should try to use logic some more; Yamamoto doesn't emit heat that behaves like a sun or the heat of a sun, Yamamoto sweats reiatsu at 15 million degrees, and based on Bleach's mechanics about reiatsu and the statement about him holding back to not burn his Gotei 13 minions along with Soul Society, so he is a walking eraser when they even mention that he has a "time limit" before it gets out of control.

Pretty sure I know you try to defend the character, but your arguments are only "I didn't saw it" along with associative fallacies and taking Yamamoto's feats as nothing. As I said, he is not a sun, as he doesn't sweat heat, but reiatsu at that temperature, and unfortunately for Naruto's manga, Bleach has an established mechanic, along with linear powerscaling, of reiatsu's functions since, like, the beggining arcs.

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As I said before, this is a thread where the only arguments in Madara's favor are the typical "I didn't saw it" or "that's not valid".

@5th said:

How about Yamamoto gets rocked until he's dead?

There's no way he's going to touch Madara with Madara's ultimate defense which are the Limbo's that can individually take on beings as durable as the tailed beasts, or as OP as EoS Naruto and Sasuke.

Yeah, still no explanation on how Yamamoto gets pass Madara's limbos.

Plus Yamamoto's bankai didn't kill everyone in Soul Society therefore everyone in the Soul Society has sun heat resistance

What a very logical conclusion you've made

How about Madara gets grilled with a simple reiatsu crush at, let's be funny, 5 million degrees?

Also, nobody has answered nor countered my argument about Yamamoto literally crushing Nanao with his reiatsu, tough for the thread, he will be crushing Madara with 15 million degrees.

He didn't kill anyone because he was holding back, which is why he doesn't use his bankai that often and clearly, everyone in Gotei 13 were whinning like little girls because of that.

@5th said:

Still no feats of that, but if you want to argue that go ahead.

Feats about Madara surviving absolute zero and/or 15 million degrees?

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I still find very funny that people ask "where is the feat?" when I could just ask "where is the feat about Madara using Bijuu spheres? I didn't saw it", or even better, I could ask "where is stated Madara is so fast when we saw Sakura hit Kaguya which is stronger and faster than him?".

But right now, this is the moment where someone says "that didn't count, it was plot".

He wasn't holding back, I remember Yamamoto clearly stating that if he didn't put an end to their fight he would take Soul Society with him, where exactly does Yamamoto say he was holding back?

Okay, I specifically just stated that Madara's limbo are autopilot, therefore they act instantly without his control, what stops him from smacking Yamamoto to the edge of his existence and then ending him with a truth seeking ball?? From the beginning of the fight it was Lloyd evading and attempting to counter Yamamoto's flames with Quincy spells and techniques.

Still can't answer how Yamamoto's going to counter something as hax as Madara's limbos that can exist beyond the physical world, unless you're going to argue that Yamamoto has Juubi Kin or Rinne eyes to see them or touch them, then no, that's like when Sakura tried punching Madara, look what happened to her.

Distance doesn't matter, Madara's gonna tag Yamamoto with limbo regardless because it's imperceptible to normal means, don't try to drag the bullshit argument saying that Yamamoto destroying everything, that's only if he touches you with his bankai that he can really release the excruciating power of the Sun's radiance, otherwise, show me proof that Yamamoto can release the heat of the sun on everything, oh but there isn't, you're going off a claim and hype that was easily euthanized by Yhwach's cleverness.

Overall, there's no reason for Madara to just sit back and let his five invincible clones do the work while he throws some molecular munching hypersonic orbs at Yamamoto.

There's nothing in Yamamoto's gear besides his deadliness, that's going to bypass Madara's defense or offense.

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Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@Captivated said:

@ohplease:

That's highly illogical, he simply asked for Madara's limbo doing what he said it did.

Blut vein is either fully offensive or fully defensive, no in-between. When Yama released that portion of his Bankai Yhwach was using the defensive end of his blut vein which is designed to just defend. You can't say cloak>>>blut vein mostly because blut vein has the feat of withstanding Yama's bankai close up, it far exceeds anything the cloak has done.

@5th:

It's been stated that Yama held back the Bankai so it didn't destroy the soul society.

Still no feats of that, but if you want to argue that go ahead.

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@CosmicKnight75 said:

^ Scan of Limbo doing that? Never mind Juubidara gets incinerated before he can even do anything.

How about Yamamoto gets rocked until he's dead?

There's no way he's going to touch Madara with Madara's ultimate defense which are the Limbo's that can individually take on beings as durable as the tailed beasts, or as OP as EoS Naruto and Sasuke.

Yeah, still no explanation on how Yamamoto gets pass Madara's limbos.

Plus Yamamoto's bankai didn't kill everyone in Soul Society therefore everyone in the Soul Society has sun heat resistance

What a very logical conclusion you've made

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Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

Bleach hypes, bleach hypes everywhere.

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Battles » Yamamoto Genryusai vs Juudara

@CrimsonMoon said:

@5th said:

What stops Madara from flicking Yamamoto around like ragdoll via limbo?

Or hitting him with a seeking truth ball?

Or dropping country sized land masses on him.

For all three, Yamamoto's reiatsu at 15 million degrees.

Basically, and literally, Yamamoto is a walking eraser that sweats reiatsu at 15 million degrees, and given the fact that reiatsu has a established mechanic, being capable of attacking targets by the mere force it imposes upon them (reiatsu crush), Madara doesn't have any chance to survive that simple number.

It's sad, but Naruto doesn't have linear powerscaling in it's mechanics to judge an individuals strenght and resistance based only in "power ups from the story" and associative fallacies. Madara has to show or state that he can solve the problem of going against someone who can beat you just by being near you, and the thing is, Bleach has a pretty old mechanic where simple power can kill your opponent, like the thing Yamamoto did to Nanao when he "fought" against Kyouraku and Ukitake.

@5th said:

Limbo is piloted, there's no way Yamamoto's getting within close quarters of Madara without being treated the bitch slap treatment first, what makes any one here think Yamamoto even has the speed to tag Madara? He's still outmatched.

What makes you think that, whatever speed you think Madara has, would help him overcome something that can be feeled everywhere in Seireitei and that is stated would destroy Soul Society?

Uhm... Limbo is an inter-dimensional clone that exists on two plains of existence and is intangible to any physical means, what rationality did you use before saying Madara wasn't going to be able to touch Yamamoto when all he has to do is literally sit back and let his clones do the work?

Yeah, Yamamoto's being overly hyped here, to the point you think he's LITERALLY a walking sun, had that been the case, soul society and everyone in it, would've been dead.

Sternritter blut can tank Yamamoto's heat, so why can't Madara who's dealt with kicks that can split a giant branch off the God Tree?

Pretty sure if Yamamoto literally had the heat of the sun at that scale, he would've killed Juha Bach's clone from the beginning, with everyone in Soul Society, unless you're implying everyone in Soul Society and survive within being several kilometers or miles from the sun, then no.

Has everyone forgotten that Madara has the upper hand in this fight no matter what? He lets the hurt on Yamamoto via limbos and truth seeking balls.

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Battles » Bijuu Mode Naruto vs Gremmy Thoumeaux

BM Naruto is impressive, but Gremmy is pretty OP

One clone should do it.

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Battles » Oraph crew vs Kaguya

@luthluth: I would still consider it impressive because it's proof that the Juubi Kin can regenerate limbs and parts of his body from molecular destruction

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Battles » Who can beat Othinus?

Apollo and Hades from SS

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@chill21 said:

@5th said:

@akronawol17: Tiny pieces? Juubito has regenerated from molecular destruction and he's a juubi kin,

I don't remember this

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