I got into anime with dubs but now that I’m more savvy, I prefer sub. In my perfect world, I would have to option of none, sub, dub (edits), and dub (uncut) when I buy a DVD/Blu ray.
The comments were TL;DR for me, but skimming through I caught this and well, it really burned me up. I'm going to make this simple, if every R1 distributor stopped dubbing the shows into English, then I will find I suddenly have more money to spend on manga, importing figures, buying games, and maybe even be able to save up for a new car. I hope that makes my answer to Tom's question pretty clear.
" OH stop dubbing it. it jus sounds silly. what's wrong with sub? at least there's character behind the original voices. stop dubbing animes!! "
I could have agreed with your metaphor, but by the end it sounds like you're saying that the existence of the English dub itself is the something extra, unnecessary, and wrong. Sure, by the end of your comment you say that you don't wish English dubbing would drop off the face of the Earth entirely, but that first paragraph gives off a different impression. You seem to imply that by watching an anime in English, I'm saying that Japanese is unfamiliar, scary, and wacky. It's not about all of that though. It's simply about the fact that the show is in a language that I do not understand.
" For me, it's not a question of "compromise" or that anything is "missing", it's a case of there being something extra, something unnecessary, SOMETHING WRONG. A lot of people don't like green tea ice cream. Do they put gravy on it? Maybe. But probably not. Usually, they just don't eat it! Green tea is a foreign flavor, and gravy is not, but it still doesn't make the ice cream taste more familiar. Go eat a hamburger! By the same token, if you can't handle hearing wacky, unfamiliar, scary foreign languages, go watch something American!
" OH stop dubbing it. it jus sounds silly. what's wrong with sub? at least there's character behind the original voices. stop dubbing animes!! "See what I mean about sub fans who act as if it is an outrage against us for an entertainment to be made available for a broader audience. As unlikely as it sounds, there really are people who don't want that other audio track on the disc, even though nobody is forcing us listen to the dub track.
" Huh I thought the advent of DVD helped solve most of this, since every disc had BOTH versions of it. The SUB/DUB war really meant something (as much as these kinds of discussions ever can) back in the VHS days. (I feel old like I'm saying "Back in MY day.") "It seems we've traded one argument for another. People have shown that they dislike that they have to help pay for the cost of a dub when it's something they don't watch. DVDs that are subtitle only can be sold at a cheaper price than a dual language DVD. It's things like that that lead to ridiculous suggestions like offering both a (cheaper) sub only DVD and a DVD with an English dub.
This is exactly where your metaphor breaks down. If you look at the total views of Youtube/Funimation shows that stream in both dubs and subs, there are normally more views of dubs even though the subs were normally released first.
" A lot of people don't like green tea ice cream. Do they put gravy on it? Maybe. But probably not. Usually, they just don't eat it!"
" I don't mind dub's at all, but I find it a tad ridiculous that I have to pay extra for a series, because it's Dubbed, especially when it's dubbed terribly. "You have not considered that you are often paying more for a higher license fee rather than the cost of the dub? After all, the animes that get the dubs are the ones that are considered to be most likely to sell well, and they likely cost more to acquire, or else have a higher per-unit royalty.