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Surely, you've noticed that in Pokemon a pre-evolved form of a Pokemon Beating it's Evolved form or Other fully evolved Pokemon.


For Example.

Ash's Bulbasar Beating meginum
Pikachu beating Raichu
Jigglypuff beating Gengar!!


I Dont think a Pre evolved form, should be able to beat an Evolved form, because when a Pokemon Evolves it's stats become stronger than they used to be.

What's your opinion on this?

What happened when Jigglypuff beat Gengar, what did it do to beat it?

It Put it To sleep and then rolledout

cool

-_-

I think alot of the time its plot, just to get the story going or finished. I dont think it's wrong for a pre evolved form to beat an evolved form but what would be bad if it was a level 10 pre evolved form beating a level 30 evolved form.

I don't think the evolved form is "better," no matter what. For example, let's take Ash's Pikachu. If Ash were to clone his Pikachu, then use the Thunderstone on the clone say, and have the two battle, the Raichu would win. But, that doesn't happen. Ash's Pikachu is very well trained, and it isn't just the Pokemon, it is the Pokemon plus the trainer combo. Also, so Pokemon have special abilites that they develop, that is unique solely to them. Such as: Agatha's Gengar, it can move within shadows. Koga's Arbok, it can regenerate it's body completely, as long as it's head is intact. Some trainer from the anime (which I fail to remember the name of), has a Sandshrew, that has trained in water, and has done so, so much that water doesn't effect it, even though it is suppose to be "super effective." The video game is one view of the Pokemon world, but to take it into actual terms, there are many variables that just cannot be applied to the game. So, all in all, a lower evolution can beat an upper evolution.

Willow said:

"I don't think the evolved form is "better," no matter what. For example, let's take Ash's Pikachu. If Ash were to clone his Pikachu, then use the Thunderstone on the clone say, and have the two battle, the Raichu would win. But, that doesn't happen. Ash's Pikachu is very well trained, and it isn't just the Pokemon, it is the Pokemon plus the trainer combo. Also, so Pokemon have special abilites that they develop, that is unique solely to them. Such as: Agatha's Gengar, it can move within shadows. Koga's Arbok, it can regenerate it's body completely, as long as it's head is intact. Some trainer from the anime (which I fail to remember the name of), has a Sandshrew, that has trained in water, and has done so, so much that water doesn't effect it, even though it is suppose to be "super effective." The video game is one view of the Pokemon world, but to take it into actual terms, there are many variables that just cannot be applied to the game. So, all in all, a lower evolution can beat an upper evolution.


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Tight Post ^^

Acer said:

"Willow said:

"I don't think the evolved form is "better," no matter what. For example, let's take Ash's Pikachu. If Ash were to clone his Pikachu, then use the Thunderstone on the clone say, and have the two battle, the Raichu would win. But, that doesn't happen. Ash's Pikachu is very well trained, and it isn't just the Pokemon, it is the Pokemon plus the trainer combo. Also, so Pokemon have special abilites that they develop, that is unique solely to them. Such as: Agatha's Gengar, it can move within shadows. Koga's Arbok, it can regenerate it's body completely, as long as it's head is intact. Some trainer from the anime (which I fail to remember the name of), has a Sandshrew, that has trained in water, and has done so, so much that water doesn't effect it, even though it is suppose to be "super effective." The video game is one view of the Pokemon world, but to take it into actual terms, there are many variables that just cannot be applied to the game. So, all in all, a lower evolution can beat an upper evolution.


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Tight Post ^^
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Thanks. ^^

Willow said:

"I don't think the evolved form is "better," no matter what. For example, let's take Ash's Pikachu. If Ash were to clone his Pikachu, then use the Thunderstone on the clone say, and have the two battle, the Raichu would win. But, that doesn't happen. Ash's Pikachu is very well trained, and it isn't just the Pokemon, it is the Pokemon plus the trainer combo. Also, so Pokemon have special abilites that they develop, that is unique solely to them. Such as: Agatha's Gengar, it can move within shadows. Koga's Arbok, it can regenerate it's body completely, as long as it's head is intact. Some trainer from the anime (which I fail to remember the name of), has a Sandshrew, that has trained in water, and has done so, so much that water doesn't effect it, even though it is suppose to be "super effective." The video game is one view of the Pokemon world, but to take it into actual terms, there are many variables that just cannot be applied to the game. So, all in all, a lower evolution can beat an upper evolution."

You put a lot of thought into this o_O

Tempest said:

"Willow said:

"I don't think the evolved form is "better," no matter what. For example, let's take Ash's Pikachu. If Ash were to clone his Pikachu, then use the Thunderstone on the clone say, and have the two battle, the Raichu would win. But, that doesn't happen. Ash's Pikachu is very well trained, and it isn't just the Pokemon, it is the Pokemon plus the trainer combo. Also, so Pokemon have special abilites that they develop, that is unique solely to them. Such as: Agatha's Gengar, it can move within shadows. Koga's Arbok, it can regenerate it's body completely, as long as it's head is intact. Some trainer from the anime (which I fail to remember the name of), has a Sandshrew, that has trained in water, and has done so, so much that water doesn't effect it, even though it is suppose to be "super effective." The video game is one view of the Pokemon world, but to take it into actual terms, there are many variables that just cannot be applied to the game. So, all in all, a lower evolution can beat an upper evolution."

You put a lot of thought into this o_O
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Actually, it took me like 2 minutes, and I just wrote it, then posted it. Didn't check for spelling or grammar errors too.

lol

@Jlynnana said:

" Surely, you've noticed that in Pokemon a pre-evolved form of a Pokemon Beating it's Evolved form or Other fully evolved Pokemon.For Example.Ash's Bulbasar Beating meginum Pikachu beating RaichuJigglypuff beating Gengar!!I Dont think a Pre evolved form, should be able to beat an Evolved form, because when a Pokemon Evolves it's stats become stronger than they used to be.What's your opinion on this? "

And did you mean "any" pre-evolved versus "any" evolved. Because Gengar isn't jigglypuff's evolution. So yeah, its very likely a squirtle could beat a charizard

I guess it just seemed to defeat the purpose of evolution, but when you put it that way, i understand

Well, I think yes, that its kind of odd for an evolved XYZ to beat an unevolved XYZ, but not all pokemon are created equal. an evolved... umm... bellossom isn't going to destroy a... umm... charmander. Even ignoring their resistances, some pokemon are just made to be better than others, espcially at various stages of evolution (ala magikarp and gyrados)
 
Though, since you get full level up points when you evolve (I.E. a level 20 X is the same strength even if it evolved at leve 5 or 12)