Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver lack luster?

Topic started by Jlynnana on March 29, 2010. Last post by Jlynnana 4 years, 4 months ago.
Post by Jlynnana (3,293 posts) See mini bio Level 13
Back in 2000, Game freak  developed and Nintendo produced Pokemon Gold and Silver, Putting the gamer back in the pokemon world with only three years elapsed,(From it's predecessor of Red,Blue and Yellow) into the new land of Johoto . Same goal;Raise your pokemon to the highest level,battle the gyms, defeat the elite for and become champion. However there is now a bunch of new twist; for one Ditto can now mate. Shiny pokemon have been introduced, Now the player may travel to Kanto and battlethe pokemon gyms there. The champion RED from the Red,Blue and yellow series makes his apperance as the toughest trainer in the game with his Trademark Pikachu at level 81!  Then there is Pokemon Crystal, which is basically the same as Gold and Silver, however they introduce a first,; a female character mayb be chosen, and the Story tends to hand around Suicune just a bit.Gold and Silver both proved to be the most popular version of the game selling Approximately 15 Million in the U.S and Japan alone, 
 
Now let's fast foward to Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green. These two games you could very well call the set up from HG and SS. Same premise as Red,Blue and Yellow, now the double battle feature that was present on Ruby and Sapphire have migrated over to this game. Not really any major changes except, for the inclusion of a female trainer and now there is a battle tower, and a land mass in the middle of the ocean called the Sevii islands. Aside from the Sevii Island and a few Generation II pokemon, FR and LG were pretty much the same game as Red Blue and Yellow.
 
Much like Gold and Silver, Heart Gold and Soul Silver take place three years after the events in Firered and Leaf Green. The game see's improved graphic, enhanced game play, including the pokewalker (Which i adore!) which allows for a player to upload a pokemon from the game to the device and you can walk around,battle, look for items and even catch pokemon. Also the Safari Zone that was closed in Gold and Silver makes it's return and is in a new area; that is only accessible by taking a new route.The Pokemon Contest that were introduced in Ruby and Sapphrie then expanded on in Diamond and Pearl, aren't present, they have been replaced with the PokeAthalon , which is a mini competetion where you can use 3 of your pokemon to do challenges and Mini games.

However unlike all the previous pokemon games, HG and SS really don't stand out as much, when it comes to improvements, The Gym leaders are still virtually punching bags, with the exception for maybe Clair and Whitney, Red returns as the most powerful trainer in the game, but there wherabouts of Green aren't stated, she's not even mentioned. The Sevii Islands were not included even though a good deal of FR and LG dealt with them. It almost seemed as if they created the game to directly emulate Gold and Silver, instead of building on the Story from FR and LG.
 
What do you think about the games, what did you want to see implemented that was not?
Post by Kelleth (7,777 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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It needed more... if they really wanted to make people happy they should have added the Sevii Islands and the Orange Islands like the ones that where rumoured to exist in the originals but didn't really.
Apart from that yes i too have sensed that it was missing something that the originals had. so i just accepted that this game is for the newbies to the franchise and not us old timers.
I`m still waiting for that magical game that combines all expects of all the previous one the feel of the 1st & 2nd generations. the water routes and underground from the 3rd & 4th generation. maybe being able to choose which region you want to start in and give the trainer some more freedom. i`ll be waiting for this game till then i`m just as disappointed as you are
Post by Jlynnana (3,293 posts) See mini bio Level 13
Even the official guide is sub par. It doesn't include Kanto!
Post by Kelleth (7,777 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@Jlynnana: Well so didnt the original book it was supposed to be a surprise to the new gamers
Post by Halberdierv2 (1,290 posts) See mini bio Level 17
the game has some nice new features, like the pokemon outside the pokeball, and Pokewalker etc, but it lacks the element of "Bad-Assery" that GSC had. i mean, they took out the GAME SLOTS!? How could they do that!?
Post by JJOR64 (2,074 posts) See mini bio Level 16
It is a bummer to not see anything ground breaking in these remakes, but it's been so long since I played through Silver, it feels like a new game to me.  I hope the 5th Gen games introduce something that will change the game up.
Post by Jlynnana (3,293 posts) See mini bio Level 13
II think they took out the slots, for the heat they were catching about them in the first place.
Post by Halberdierv2 (1,290 posts) See mini bio Level 17
it is a bit disappointing, since i have no interest in going into the 5th gen, and considering how much younger the target audience is getting., I thoguht for a revival of the best Pokemon games to date was not as great as it should have been.
Post by John_Martone (2,992 posts) See mini bio Level 10
But, if I never played Gold or Silver to start off with, could I bear with it?
 
Like, I enjoyed Pearl and Diamond, as it had plenty of features, and I hadn't done a pokemon game in forever, but I skipped gold and silver entirely. Though I haven't been very attached to the personalities of many pokemon (the actual creatures) after the first generation.
Post by Halberdierv2 (1,290 posts) See mini bio Level 17
@John_Martone: i suppose, considering there is a big similarity in the atmosphere of HG/SS and Diamond/Pearl, keeping with the modern style. if you enjoyed Diamond and Pearl, youll be busy for a while, considering it about twice as long as a regular Pokemon game. Gold and silver felt more 90's and was suited to that time era, as were the original Red and Blue.
Post by Obsidian609 (260 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@Halberdierv2: I can't believe they took out the game slots. Damn American censorship.
Post by Halberdierv2 (1,290 posts) See mini bio Level 17
@Obsidian609 said:
" @Halberdierv2: I can't believe they took out the game slots. Damn American censorship. "
but i dont understand the point.. platinum had slots, as well as all the other games beforehand... methinks this "sheltering of the youth" nonsense is going to backfire..
Post by John_Martone (2,992 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@Halberdierv2 said: @Obsidian609:
" @Obsidian609 said:
" @Halberdierv2: I can't believe they took out the game slots. Damn American censorship. "
but i dont understand the point.. platinum had slots, as well as all the other games beforehand... methinks this "sheltering of the youth" nonsense is going to backfire.. "
Wait... how does removing multiple saves equate to censorship? Who does that protect and how?
Post by Obsidian609 (260 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@John_Martone: No no no they took away the slot machine mini game in HG SS, and replaced it with a card flip game that is really hard to play (it's like playing mine sweeper).
Post by Jlynnana (3,293 posts) See mini bio Level 13
I love the pokeAthalon. I stopped playing my game and just do that all day.
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