Don't get me wrong, this whole under-age Idol culture and fanservice issue in Japan still stands.
Good, then what's the point with bringing up the west? The only person comparing the two cultures was FoxxFireart for one post, and then he dropped it. This is a column about a Japanese cartoon, and this discussion spawned from the writer saying a certain aspect of JP culture bothers him.
No one is saying the west is innocent, we're just talking about this extremely specific instance of Japanese culture.
Maybe I'm wrong, and Japan itself has the real problem and ours is negligible. With that decided, why the hell bother watching anime? If it's THAT much of a problem to you and as a whole? Watching anime with fanservice you disagree with isn't going to get rid of it. If anything, it's selling out. Your morals and principles must not be worth much if you keep watching despite the fact you disagree with the content. Not implying anyone talking here does this, but it happens and it's worth a mention considering the conversation.
Or maybe fanservice just isn't morally repugnant enough to make me stop watching anime completely. Its kind of gross and pathetic, but its a symptom of a greater problem more than anything. I'd never watch something completely horrible like Strike Witches, but if it crops up in an otherwise good anime, then I deal with it.
If you think that makes me a "sellout", well......whatever.
(not that I actually watch much anime these days-- "moe" kinda destroyed it in my eyes.)
Which brings me something else... The entire discussion would have been a lot more intriguing and thought provoking if it didn't dissolve into snide comments and condescension. I honestly do hate to sound preachy, but this could have actual been a good way to talk about these issues... And look what happened.
I think the conversation so far has been pretty good, not sure what you're talking about. Though I'm not up for writing long blocks of text anymore...