ONE PIECE #565 - - Special Review

Topic started by No_name_here on Oct. 3, 2012. Last post by Petiew 1 year, 10 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (855 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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I’m an impatient guy. Straight up. We’re thinking of having our pal Sammy take up the task of reviewing episode of the Big Three franchises (or at least sampling recent arcs) sometime soon. I simply couldn’t wait before we got that sorted out, though, so I went ahead and checked out one of the newest ditties out myself.

(A nicer way of spinning that is to say that I’m testing the waters for Sam to make sure he doesn’t get sucked down into undertow or devoured by lurking piranhas or… whatever aquatic threat best completes the analogy).

Anyway, I’m always amazed whenever I drop-in with the Straw Hats every hundred episodes or so. The series sporadically strikes me as being what… say… SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS would look like after ten years of continuous serial plotting and a gradually shifting focus to serious world-building. Especially when you get to this episode, and there’s this whole myth-making critical mass of giants, fish people, underwater vampires, shapeshifters and swashbuckling skeleton songsters. Looking at this through the lens of superhero comics (as I do), it’s as if the world of the One Piece is how the Marvel universe would look if it used underground comix from Venich Beach as a starting point.

How else can one describe the aforementioned swashbuckling skeleton songster, whose outfit looks like the result of some wacky four-cart pile-up at the intersection of Party City and a pop-up Halloween store?

I’m sure the extended recap irritates the long-time fans of the show, but I’m glad it’s there. Thanks to it, I never got lost, here. Even if I didn’t have all the necessary backstory needed to totally understand the significance of Luffy’s showdown with the absurdly jacked bad guy or Tony Tony Chopper’s new stage of transformation, I always had a pretty gist of what was going on.

Strangely enough, while this episode should probably feel like the series running on fumes, I found the complex - - possibly over-complicated - - status quo here to be far more interesting than the more simplistic earlier material I’ve previously sampled. All this multifarious underwater phantasmagoria captures my imagination from many more angles than the basic “stretchy, brawly Peter Pan” set-up of the first episodes.

I mean, the skeleton dude’s trash talking showdown with the one, semi-invisible villain actually felt pretty kickass - - and I haven’t been able to use that description for anything I’ve seen previously on ONE PIECE.

Watch this episode, "Luffy's All-out Attack! Red Hawk Blasts!” here and decide for yourself.

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,226 posts) See mini bio Level 21

One of the things I like about One Piece is that it don't take itself really seriously, and its world building. It one of the anime/manga I always comeback to and enjoy.

Post by FoxxFireArt (2,640 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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This is certainly a nice episode to jump in on. A lot of what FUNimation sends you is years old. The series has matured, changed, and always gets more exciting. ONE PIECE is pretty good about summing up the events at the start of every episode.

Hordy is so jacked up becasue he's using a drug called Energy Steroid. He used to take one at a time, but he started taking handfuls to deal with the pain inflicted by Zoro much earlier in the story and Luffy. That caused him to transform into this mad beast. The funny thing is that since Luffy is in the water. His attacks are weakened. He can't hit with his full strength since the sea saps his strength.

You missed out on a lot of the earlier set up, but the Fish-Man Island arc is basically an allegory of the Civil Rights movement, and you could even mix in the Israeli/Palestinian issue. Especially when you listen to Zeo talk about dying for the cause for others to pick up.

A quick lesson on Brook. He was a pirate from 50 years ago. He ate the Revive-Revive devil fruit. When he and his crew were all killed, his soul left his body but it returned from the afterlife. He got lost in the murky fog of the Florian Triangle, and by the time he got back to his body he found it was nothing but bones and his hair. He sailed alone for all those years in the Florian Triangle until Luffy invited him to join his crew.

If Sammy ever needs any help with this series. He's free to ask me anything. I've seen every episode, and I know the story inside and out.

Post by Om1kron (141 posts) See mini bio Level 7

In short, I know one can only watch so much of the big 3. I think as a fan if one piece actually ended someday it would be more fulfilling to watch almost 1000+ hours of anime to enjoy everything it has to offer. You already know I was going to chime in on a One Piece article since it's my favorite show.

Pretty much if LeSean Thomas says I need to be watching this show, then I'm watching this show. And he hasn't been able to keep/catch up with it. The animation quality definitely changes over a 10 year span. It's not until thriller bark that it starts to get really good. But the style is very true to the comic and that's what I appreciate the most.

If there is one arc that could totally of been skipped is the back-story of Luffy, Ace, and Sabo after the great war. In my honest opinion but you get so antsy to find out what happens next on one piece that back-story arcs really piss you off since it rarely happens.

While I do enjoy reading the manga half of the time it's really hard to tell what the hell is going on in some of the action sequences, so I kind of look forward to the anime version to clear things up. I can also say I really disliked the hell out of the fishman island arc in the comics, I don't know why it pissed me off so much.

Maybe it's due to the third run in with fishmen in the book, who knows. But I was so damned glad when it was over. I also like how the anime illustrates the aging effects of the steroid better than the manga did. Even when it was reviewed here someone said they thought that was stupid and unexplained that everyone

after all was said and done. Either way I'm just as excited for this arc to end in the anime as well and move onto the next arc-Jamon

Post by FoxxFireArt (2,640 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@Om1kron:

The aging thing is a call back to the classic TALE OF URASHIMA TARO. and the Ryugu Kingdom. If you've read this classic Japanese folklore, it all makes sense.

Post by Om1kron (141 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@FoxxFireArt said:

@Om1kron:

The aging thing is a call back to the classic TALE OF URASHIMA TARO. and the Ryugu Kingdom. If you've read this classic Japanese folklore, it all makes sense.

Nope never read it, but everything in One Piece is an indirect pun or reference one way or another.

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,226 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@Om1kron:

Even when it was reviewed here someone said they thought that was stupid and unexplained that everyone

Well, Vander Decken did foreshadow it

Post by Petiew (244 posts) See mini bio Level 14
I'd rank my interest in One Piece components as: Character interactions, Plot and World Building, Comedy, Robin's thighs, fights. 

It's still a battle shonen, but I think it places a lot more emphasis on the characters and foreshadowing, which is why I never understand why people just want to skip all that and catch up with the latest episode.
I really liked the Arlong, Alabasta, W7-Enies Lobby arcs because they mixed the character motivations really well with the fights. When I was reading Fishman Island week by week I kind of found myself just waiting for the arc to be over.
 
Maybe it's because the series had much less than half the chapters/episodes it has now but I think if you're going to watch it, watch it it all. If you do, that's 600 chapters, or 500+ episodes you can enjoy. 
I feel like people jumping in from Marineford might be dissapointed with how further arcs play out.
Post by Om1kron (141 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Yeah there really is no such thing as a jumping on point in one piece I feel. It will never make sense. I tried that a long time ago and was put off by it just like tom was. It wasn't until I was current with Naruto and Katekyo Hitman Reborn that I decided to give one piece another try. Sadly I cannot say the same about bleach, I just can't get into that show.

Post by FoxxFireArt (2,640 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@Om1kron:

The problem with the BLEACH anime is that they have so many filler arcs. They put filler arcs in the middle of canon arcs. It's bee a long time since ONE PIECE has done a filler arc.

Post by Petiew (244 posts) See mini bio Level 14
@FoxxFireArt: I haven't watched the anime properly since the end of the Enies Lobby arc, though I've watched the odd episodes here and there.
I tried getting back into the anime at Impel Down, but I thought it was bad. Instead of filler arcs they stretched out the episodes so 1 episode was covering a single chapter. The pace was glacial and filled with lots of still reaction shots and Buggy-Mr 3 doing stupid stuff.
I'd prefer well done filler arcs like G8 over dragging episodes out with filler.
 
@Om1kron
Yeah it's one of the series' biggest strengths, but weaknesses too. Characters, events and world building are introduced really far in advance that people jumping in will be totally lost.
Post by Om1kron (141 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@Petiew said:

@FoxxFireArt: I haven't watched the anime properly since the end of the Enies Lobby arc, though I've watched the odd episodes here and there. I tried getting back into the anime at Impel Down, but I thought it was bad.

@Om1kron: Yeah it's one of the series' biggest strengths, but weaknesses too. Characters, events and world building are introduced really far in advance that people jumping in will be totally lost.

They REAAAAALLY stretch out the Sabo, Luffy, Ace thing before going into the fishman ark! I thought Impel Down dragged a tad since all the other characters are gone and you focus on luffy for the most part with a drop in episode here and there to let you know how the crew is doing. But it makes it worth it during the great war arc, you get a lot of emotional tension built up from impel down and are on the edge of your seat throughout the great war hoping luffy saves the day. And those of you familiar with the series know how that all panned out. It was pretty gut wrenching.

Post by jj_jackson (112 posts) See mini bio Level 6
ONE PIECE IT SELF IS KICK-ASS I follow all 3 of the Big 3 and i have for years and at first i hated one piece but when i finally dove in i couldnt stop watching. But overall it has some of the most epic moments EVERRRRR. and honestly i feel like if you guys havent actually seen it all the way through or skip around you can't really understand or have a really idk ummm good opinion on the show as a whole.
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,640 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@Petiew: @Om1kron:

That's the price you're going to have to pay. Do you want to deal with filler arcs that go on for who knows how long and will never influence the story, or do you want longer canon arcs. I'd rather deal with the canon material. The series is doing extremely well in Japan, so I don't see them changing this format.

The Dawn Island Arc only added one filler episode. It didn't take that long. Sabo only appeared in 12 episodes.

Post by Petiew (244 posts) See mini bio Level 14
@FoxxFireArt: I deal with the filler by not watching the anime anymore. If the filler was good, like G8, I would prefer little arcs compared to dragging out the episodes. Unfortunately the majority of the filler arcs are bad too so I've just given up on the anime. Poor pacing, tons of filler, very inconsistent art and animation just kind of killed it for me.
 
I see canon filler as episodes like Usopp and daddy the father, not long recaps, characters getting into silly situations to keep them from the action and still reaction shots. Looking back at older episodes they actually suffered from this too, but I didn't have the manga pace as a reference when I was first watching arcs like Skypiea.
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