Funimation, One Piece, and Piracy

Topic started by lyth on May 15, 2009. Last post by lyth 3 years ago.
Post by lyth (3 posts) See mini bio Level 1
So I need a blog for putting down my thoughts on anime-related issues, because well, not that I think the local economy is in such bad shape, but my wallet certainly is, which is why I can't afford web hosting anymore. AnimeVice came across my mind because I've been following Gia's video blogs for a while now. I was previously under the impression that AnimeVice is bound to fail at some point, but I guess its main focus isn't to sell ads, it's to demonstrate the software behind it? Oh, I sure hope we won't be asked to move our blog posts elsewhere too soon.

My name is Miha, by the way, I'm a semi-retired otaku in the process of going casual. I used to be a fansubber, I used to spend a lot of money on my hobby, but now I'm just downloading stuff or streaming it for free. I'm trying to redesign my life, but I definitely want to keep anime as part of it. What prompted me to open this blog was the recent announcement regarding One Piece online simulcasts. Funimation accomplished an amazing feat, but I can't help but be irrationally angry at the fact that it's planned as a North-American release only. I live in Slovenia, so obviously we won't be able to follow it via official means, but you'd think that with Crunchyroll trying to push for international streaming rights Funimation were at least try to do the same with some of their titles. It's a regional licensing issue that rests to be resolved by the Japanese and their international partners, but my annoyance lies in Funimation's kind of aggressive anti-piracy stance. I'm surprised that I can't find a working torrent of Code Geass S01E01 listed on TokyoTosho; that's how good their IP-enforcement team is. That's not to say that you can't find their pirated properties on the internets. My argument for keeping piracy around is that anime stuff will always sell, the industry just has to find a right way to do it, and suppressing piracy is definitely not the way. By doing that, they are just postponing the inevitable (= people not caring for DVD releases) and spending unneeded resources in the process (= paying guys to take down torrents and streams). Anime fans in my country buy anime stuff--despite the lack of legal anime availability --the only difference is that they have no choice but to rely on fansubs before they decide to buy. It's been this way even before broadband internet, we just got pirated CD copies of Ghibli films before we decided to buy the official DVDs.
Imagine going out on a date with a gorgeous girl, but the date didn't go so well, clearly because she's out of your league. The only thing you have left is the confidence that you too can get girls like that. The only problem is you're not willing to admit to yourself that this girl has had to resolve some issues and will now procede to date people from her own playfield. I think it's the same with anime and the American anime industry. Anime had a lucky shot in North America, NA didn't make the best of it, now the companies involved are expecting it to sell over the capacity of the current market's interest. It's not going to happen, guys.

Miha
Post by nixon (3 posts) See mini bio Level 2
So is anime available on dvd in your country or not?  You talk about how your countrymen pirate anime then buy the offical dvds.

Its always a good idea for a company to protect their product.  Fansubs are  what hurt  the anime industry. 

I hope that in the future people in slovenia can watch legal streaming anime on a hulu style site and given the choice to own the series on dvd or blu ray for reasonable prices. But piracy is not how things will change.
Post by Zeouterlimits (516 posts) See mini bio Level 7
Miha,
  as a fellow European I can understand your frustration, I have felt it may a time.
But things aren't so simple that Funimation can just click their fingers and have a global/western release to territories. They've actually tried better than most, take the Full Metal Alchemist series, that's perfectly available to stream in Europe (afaik). Similar with most videos on their main site.
 
As for piracy how can you blame anyone for trying to stop that? Their property, just because it isn't available here doesn't suddenly makes us entitled to steal it. We should be grateful.
If you're interested in Code Geass, Beez Entertainment have just announced the European release (2 days ago) and it's coming out in October.
 Piracy is wrong. It's certainly not something that can be stopped, but I know plenty of people who having downloaded the series and watched it when it aired in Japan laugh at me for now wanting to buy the dvds, because it's fair & just.
Post by Zeouterlimits (516 posts) See mini bio Level 7
FYI: I just checked and the video on www.onepieceofficial.com also seem to be on http://www4.funimation.com/video/?page=video&v=2178 and the latter site seems to play them for me.
Have you tried the funimation site?
Post by Nerx (13,483 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Its bad but in some countries its just inevitable
Post by lyth (3 posts) See mini bio Level 1
@nixon: Ignoring the few international anime dvd releases from Sony and Disney, sorry, we don't. We have to import stuff, and some people are willing to go that far to pay shipping, 23% tax, import duties, deal with the inconvenience... We don't lack the devotion or fan spirit that usually gets associated with pirates, piracy is just part of our fandom.
@Zeouterlimits: I think piracy has helped to shape the modern anime simulcast release. Simulcasts are a good thing for anime fans, free streams are a good thing for anime fans. Geoblocking content is only helping the regional corporate licensing structure that is completely inefficient when it comes to releasing anime. There are so many problems with European releases of One Piece on TV, in Germany and Italy (and other places, I imagine), it's not even funny. Sure, they bring in more money to Japanese than internet streams ever will, so I guess I should be happy for Toei etc. as an anime industry geek, but as an anime watcher and One Piece fan they leave me no choice but to pirate it. I know I'm a lone case here, living in some godforsaken country AND caring enough about this issue to be blogging about it (most of my countrymen don't), but yeah, Geoblocking won't solve anything. And besides, I did note that this is something the Japanese will have to work on with their international partners, not just Funimation.

BTW, I wrote this post before I became aware of Funi's FMA offerings for Europeans, so a tip of my hat to them for that. Too bad I'm not watching the new series. :/
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