One Piece Forum

@sickVisionz:

I've always seen pirating as taking something you didn't pay for and having it for your own use (such as downloading a series). I haven't done that and only go to streaming sites.

@Daniel_Newton:The overwhelming majority of anime BDs outsell the DVD version by a sizable amount that isn't anywhere near "pretty close". Some examples from the most recent week in numbers would be stuff like the #1 DVD sold 4,000 copies in a week while the #1 BD sold nearly 8,000 and the #30 (the lowest the sales chart goes) DVD selling 750 copies while the BD is nearly 2k. For specific series, you've got a BD volume of Nisemonogatari selling 50k+ units while the DVD volume is around 8k, High School DxD on BD selling nearly 7k on BD while the DVD sold a little more than 2k and neither of these are rare cases. DVD is only the base in the sense that it is the bottom. Anime fans in Japan have very much jumped on the BD bandwagon and as a whole it's what they chose over a DVD by a wide margin.

@sotyfan16 said:

@sickVisionz:

I've always seen pirating as taking something you didn't pay for and having it for your own use (such as downloading a series). I haven't done that and only go to streaming sites.

That fact that 100% of the content on an illegal streaming site is from pirated sources makes it undeniable piracy to me. It's a model that can't exist without piracy and all they are doing is offering a piracy like experience (no payment for product yet you get to access it as if you owned it) and saving people the time it takes to download a MKV.

Most of the good shows are offered by legal means for free. I have no problem with advertisements and commercials.

I haven't felt it necessary to pirate a show in some years.

@sickVisionz said:

@Om1kron said:

Crunchyroll does have all of the new seasonal anime series on for a bit, but then the networks take them off and like someone else said they're never released in a purchasable format I can buy them in...

Can you direct me to where I can buy a Macross Frontier or Usagi Drop dvd from thanks. I just thought I was delusional. Add Katekyo Hitman Reborn to that list as well. If you can show me where to get those series boxed up (granted khr is still available on cr) I'd appreciate it.

@sickVisionz:

There are numerous times on those sites where the videos I watch have the watermarks from FUNimation or NicoNico and others. I'm not saying it's right to do but at least some of the people are watching the licensed versions (though they are then putting them up on other sites without the commercials and using other players). But most times the videos are the Japanese versions (with TBS watermarks and the like), though only about half the time are there watermarks.

But at least I pay for the boxsets and manga volumes. Plus, there is still the issue with unlicensed material. I don't look at imports due to cost and even if I did, manga would be an issue since I can't read Japanese or Korean (English subs on anime would be just fine of course).

@Om1kron: Usagi Drop was released on blu-ray and dvd by NISA earlier this year. Macross Frontier was never legally streaming on Crunchyroll and KHR was never removed from CR's catalog.

As said, there is very little anime that gets removed from CR and never shows up for purchase or streaming anywhere else. It's quite the opposite actually. The #1 reason a title gets removed from CR is because a company like Funi or Sentai has licensed it for home video release and plans on making it available for purchase.

@sotyfan16 said:

There are numerous times on those sites where the videos I watch have the watermarks from FUNimation or NicoNico and others... though they are then putting them up on other sites without the commercials and using other players.

So they rip them from other sites and take out the only method of giving back to the creators of licensors. Not seeing how that isn't piracy. I bet those sites had banner ads all over their webpage as well. Everyone but the people making the content deserves to make money from it is the motto I guess.

It's good that you buy, but piracy is piracy. Getting a fansub would actually be much better than going to a site where you generate ad revenue for bootleggers. While still piracy, at least you wouldn't be actively putting money in a bootlegger's pocket.