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Kuwabara guest stars Tom and Sam look back on the seminal shonen series.

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  • Tom Pinchuk’s a writer and personality with a large number of comics, videos and features like this to his credit. Visit his website - - tompinchuk.com - - and follow his Twitter: @tompinchuk

    Sam Weller is a writer and actor who's scribed for shows like FIRST EDITION, GEEK THERAPY, and most recently BATGIRL: SPOILED. He also really likes anime. To know what is going to happen next, follow @cravesam

    Top8caton July 23, 2012 at 6:13 p.m.

    Next to Wolfwood, Kuwabara would definitely have to be up there with my favorite supporting characters in anime, but on topic, the next part of the arc has been ripped by multiple animes.....and I'm not sure why.

    FoxxFireArt moderator on July 24, 2012 at 7:46 a.m.

    YU-YU HAKUSHO is a series that always felt to me as if it turned out as something completely different than when it started. So quickly it went from this introspective journey to shonen tournament mode.

    Sans DBZ, death often has a stronger impact in manga and anime. When someone dies, they're gone and it effects characters in profound ways. Death in your larger comics are an absolute joke. Many times, they don't even take their own death's seriously. Writers often drop comments about people coming back eventually. It's stuff like that which turned me off of some of the bigger publications.

    Hiding the eyes in anime is often used as a story tool to hide the reactions of your characters. It's used when you want a character's reactions to remain unknown.

    I don't mind alterations in story for dubs in most cases, as long as the subtitles are offered uncut. They at least provide the option for those who want it. My biggest problem is in when manga companies use all the anime alterations for the manga publications. That's what happened to my favorite manga series DETECTIVE CONAN. The US manga publishers used all the European names the US anime created, and it killed the manga. It's ridiculous that in a series that takes place in Japan that none of the heroes are even Japanese. It's utter "white washing". We will never get an uncut version of the manga the way the story was intended becasue of the US anime alterations. The only way I can read the real story is through scanlations, and I hate that. It deserves so much better.

    AgentJon July 24, 2012 at 10:42 a.m.

    @FoxxFireArt: That's Togashi's style, to rapidly change things up. The first arc was different from the second, was different from the third, was different from the fourth, was different from the fifth. It's seen nowhere better than in Hunter x Hunter, where each arc might as well involve new, different characters.

    No_name_here staff on July 24, 2012 at 11:57 a.m.

    @Top8cat said:

    Next to Wolfwood, Kuwabara would definitely have to be up there with my favorite supporting characters in anime

    What did you think of Sam's impression then?!!?!

    No_name_here staff on July 24, 2012 at 12:46 p.m.

    @FoxxFireArt said:

    Sans DBZ, death often has a stronger impact in manga and anime. When someone dies, they're gone and it effects characters in profound ways. Death in your larger comics are an absolute joke. Many times, they don't even take their own death's seriously. Writers often drop comments about people coming back eventually. It's stuff like that which turned me off of some of the bigger publications.

    I don't know if this is the right series to point to as a counter-example. Kuwabara and Genkai both shake of their respective dramatic "deaths" pretty quickly.

    No_name_here staff on July 24, 2012 at 12:46 p.m.

    @AgentJ said:

    It's seen nowhere better than in Hunter x Hunter, where each arc might as well involve new, different characters.

    I'll have to check that out one of these days.

    FoxxFireArt moderator on July 24, 2012 at 2:24 p.m.
    @Tom_Pinchuk
    I didn't mention that to exclude YYH. This series is another example. I just didn't mention it since it was a given.
    rubberluffyon July 24, 2012 at 2:31 p.m.

    @Tom_Pinchuk said:

    @AgentJ said:

    It's seen nowhere better than in Hunter x Hunter, where each arc might as well involve new, different characters.

    I'll have to check that out one of these days.

    You should. The new anime just aired episode 40 this past weekend, and the show is on Crunchyroll. There's an older anime that I think Funi brought over, but it's forever unfinished since it ran out of manga. Togashi started HxH a few years after YYH, but something is wrong with his health (never been revealed, I think) that is causing him to take massive hiatuses. I think the longest one yet is like 2 years or something.

    samweller999 staff on July 24, 2012 at 3:45 p.m.

    @rubberluffy: Hopefully he didn't catch any "Spirit Diseases" :)

    It's funny when you think about hiatuses in anime creation. So many times, anime is pumped out there that even a hiatus of a year makes you persona non grata. Makes me wonder how large the market still is in Japan for anime content, is the audience still that voracious?

    Top8caton July 24, 2012 at 4:59 p.m.

    @Tom_Pinchuk said:

    @Top8cat said:

    Next to Wolfwood, Kuwabara would definitely have to be up there with my favorite supporting characters in anime

    What did you think of Sam's impression then?!!?!

    lol, he's got the voice, but he's missing the heart and soul of Kuwabara. Even though you're a punk you have to fill yourself with manly pride that beams so bright others wish you'd turn it off, but you won't because you're a man, an awkward 1950's greaser reject, but a man no less.

    "Sorry Urameshi, but this is just something I have to do!"

    rubberluffyon July 24, 2012 at 5:20 p.m.

    @samweller999 said:

    @rubberluffy: Hopefully he didn't catch any "Spirit Diseases" :)

    It's funny when you think about hiatuses in anime creation. So many times, anime is pumped out there that even a hiatus of a year makes you persona non grata. Makes me wonder how large the market still is in Japan for anime content, is the audience still that voracious?

    Dude's been working on the HxH manga since 1998 (Weekly Shonen Jump) and it doesn't even have 400 chapters yet. There's been some chapters that SJ has published that are literally sketches. I think SJ gives Togashi a lot of leeway, moreso than you'd think anyone else would get.

    I do wonder how much the anime business brings in compared to the manga business. Manga is easier to digest, you can do it on your own time, faster, cheaper, etc. I've seen post stuff about how One Piece manga sells crazy numbers when a new volume is released.

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