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Watch & Learn: TIGER & BUNNY #4

Score one to this show for addressing one of the bigger problems of the whole superhero concept.

Anybody else find it hilarious how her one song was entirely composed of the lyrics "my song?" That HAD to be an intentional gag.
Anybody else find it hilarious how her one song was entirely composed of the lyrics "my song?" That HAD to be an intentional gag.

Ah, here’s where the “reflection through a dark mirror” set-up yields some insights you don’t usually get in regular superhero fare. A hero (or heroine, as too many forget is the more proper term) has doubts about her desires to continue crime-fighting? She even goes so far as quitting her “job?” That’s a familiar dilemma. However, this episodes touches on what I think is actually one of the biggest conceits of superhero universes - - that you’d see all these people having long, part-time superheroes careers when they aren’t actually obsessed sociopaths.

Take Batman. It makes sense that he’d devout his whole life to vigilantism. A childhood tragedy’s given him a pathological hatred of criminals. He doesn’t have to worry about a day job or a family. He’s got enough wealth to fund an arsenal of gear. And, most importantly, his persona is his identity. He’s driven to exercise all the time, and train every day, and brutally fight scumbags every night because that’s his compulsion.

Most other superheroes, though?

They don’t have nearly as intense personalities, and it’s therefore less believable that they’d devout that much of their lives to combat. So we have Blue Rose, here. Crime-fighting isn’t her compulsion - - singing is - - and I just don’t see her as the kind of gal who’s getting into brawls on her off-hours. I could only picture her doing this for a couple years, but if that album ever comes out and takes off, I’m sure the pull of that life would be too strong to resist.

Anyway, like I said, it’s one of those conceits you just have to go with. This is really more about emotional reality than any logistic plausibility, and that’s why I’m not going to dog on the episode because Rose’s heart-to-heart with her Dad was actually pretty touching and it does have a good message about the real nature of altruism. However, I still don’t buy that she would’ve gone back. Or, at least, that she’ll stick around for much longer.

Watch this episode "Many a True Word is Spoken in Jest" below, decide for yourself and then read my comments on the previous episode here.

Tom Pinchuk’s the writer of HYBRID BASTARDS! & UNIMAGINABLE. Order them on Amazon here & here. Follow him on Twitter: @tompinchuk

Marshal Victoryon Aug. 14, 2011 at 10 p.m.

Theirs other reasons she goes back to.But cant say, would be spoiling things.Its great the show that has more depth than most comics from the big two atm.This was one of the ok/average episodes imho.But it does set up some things later on. 
 
Some of the side character development episodes one could say are filler. But their really not.Each sets up more for a later payoff.Only a few times have i known where things were going in this show.Which is one of the reasons i like anime.Theirs things that surprise every so often in their story telling. 
DocHauson Aug. 15, 2011 at 5:35 a.m.
Also, not everyone has Batman's superpower of being richer than Bill Gates, seeing as how nearly all the heroes in this show rely on corporate sponsors to front them their gear and gadgets.
Kuma_From_Argentinaon Aug. 15, 2011 at 6:49 a.m.
I said it once and I say it again, I freaking love this show
zaldaron Aug. 15, 2011 at 2:20 p.m.
Anyone seen watchmen?  That movie and graphic novel did a better job with this type of subject matter (realistic superheros with complicated personalities IMO).  This is about where I dropped this show so will be interested in your take on the rest of it.
No_name_here staff on Aug. 15, 2011 at 2:21 p.m.

@Marshal Victory said:

Theirs other reasons she goes back to.But cant say, would be spoiling things.Its great the show that has more depth than most comics from the big two atm.This was one of the ok/average episodes imho.But it does set up some things later on. Some of the side character development episodes one could say are filler. But their really not.Each sets up more for a later payoff.Only a few times have i known where things were going in this show.Which is one of the reasons i like anime.Theirs things that surprise every so often in their story telling.

Yeah, it's refreshing to not know where any of this is going. And I think they've been smart about introducing a strong enough supporting cast that they can do individual episodes like this.

No_name_here staff on Aug. 15, 2011 at 2:23 p.m.

@DocHaus said:

Also, not everyone has Batman's superpower of being richer than Bill Gates, seeing as how nearly all the heroes in this show rely on corporate sponsors to front them their gear and gadgets.

Yeah exactly. Most trust fund billionaires have the luxury to entertain their own eccentric pursuits. His happens to be vigilantism.

No_name_here staff on Aug. 15, 2011 at 2:25 p.m.

@zaldar said:

Anyone seen watchmen? That movie and graphic novel did a better job with this type of subject matter (realistic superheros with complicated personalities IMO). This is about where I dropped this show so will be interested in your take on the rest of it.

Apples and oranges. WATCHMEN was an involved critique of superheroes with satirical and political themes, this is just a fun romp with characters. The WATCHMEN movie also shouldn't have ever been made, but that's a rant for another time.

No_name_here staff on Aug. 15, 2011 at 2:25 p.m.

@Kuma_From_Argentina said:

I said it once and I say it again, I freaking love this show

It's a good'n.

Marshal Victoryon Aug. 15, 2011 at 4:35 p.m.
@Tom_Pinchuk said:



                   

@zaldar said:

Anyone seen watchmen? That movie and graphic novel did a better job with this type of subject matter (realistic superheros with complicated personalities IMO). This is about where I dropped this show so will be interested in your take on the rest of it.

Apples and oranges. WATCHMEN was an involved critique of superheroes with satirical and political themes, this is just a fun romp with characters. The WATCHMEN movie also shouldn't have ever been made, but that's a rant for another time.



                   

               

May we at least agree the ending to the Watchman movie was wrong on may levels?An just leave it at that for now? 
 
Also imho Tiger &Bunny ( sigh so hate the titel) cast seem as realistic as the watchman .Motavation wise at least.Tho theirs no real http://www.comicvine.com/rorschach/29-40444/ in the series .Sorta cough. 
 
If you want a realistic look at people geting powers http://www.hulu.com/watch/248938/misfits-one#s-p2-n1-so-i0 Tho wanring its adult.As in NSFW adult.Tho its really really good.Tiger& Bunny should not falll into that catagory .But  http://www.hulu.com/darker-than-black  should.Which reminds me a bit of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Cards books .
BattleHeizon Aug. 16, 2011 at 7:50 a.m.
@Marshal Victory: tigers are to be loved XD
CapeBarneson Aug. 16, 2011 at 9:15 a.m.
The Mad Magazine parody of Watchmen (the movie) is pretty funny, me thinks.  
 
I don't know why, but it took me more than a few episodes to get me interested in this show. Gonna watch ep. 20 soon XD
No_name_here staff on Aug. 16, 2011 at 10:47 a.m.

@Marshal Victory said:

@Tom_Pinchuk said:

@zaldar said:

Anyone seen watchmen? That movie and graphic novel did a better job with this type of subject matter (realistic superheros with complicated personalities IMO). This is about where I dropped this show so will be interested in your take on the rest of it.

Apples and oranges. WATCHMEN was an involved critique of superheroes with satirical and political themes, this is just a fun romp with characters. The WATCHMEN movie also shouldn't have ever been made, but that's a rant for another time.


May we at least agree the ending to the Watchman movie was wrong on may levels?An just leave it at that for now?

We can agree on that, at least.

Marshal Victoryon Aug. 16, 2011 at 10:18 p.m.
@Tom_Pinchuk
Think this would be a good article .. after Tiger&Bunny ( soo hate the shows name sigh)  finishes its 1st season.A good cross compairison of watchman an anime super heroes.I do beleve theirs a little influance in some of the shows structure.At least vicual story telling style.Not so much the dark an grity.
 
Just as comics have infulanced some anime. Anime styel an some stories have been paid homage to.Some more humble than others tho.Then i can gripe about the watchman movie ending:) As well as where Venom may have come from,An a certian artist seems to be more inflanced by anime than he let on.
Marshal Victoryon Aug. 16, 2011 at 10:30 p.m.
@BattleHeiz
Sure theirs some famous tigers that are loved threw out the years.  
Tigger an Tony the tiger come to mind ...
But the shows name makes it seem like its for 5 to 7 year olds .An its bit more high brow over all than that imho.

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