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Watch & Learn: CLAYMORE #26

Here's a "Meh" ending for you.

Look at her. She&squot;s all "Huh? That&squot;s it?" about the ending, too.
Look at her. She's all "Huh? That's it?" about the ending, too.

Well, it’s a good thing that I properly braced myself for disappointment. This ending wasn’t frustrating, it didn’t get me angry, but it wasn’t satisfactory in any respect, or even conclusive. I’d hate to be anybody who was watching this while it was first airing. Righteous revenge isn’t taken, romance isn’t consummated, an ally dies in a rather pointless way and the heroes and the villains just go their separate with enough unfinished business as to leave almost everything unresolved.

Some critic, somewhere out there, is surely championing this as ambiguous and challenging. I say “Meh.”

If they were running out source material and needed a way to wrap things up quickly, would it have been so bad just let Clare finish Priscilla off? At least there would’ve been some “unity of action” there. It’s cases like this that really make me think that a live-action remake would actually benefit things. This series had so many awesome scenes and concepts and themes - - hell, the whole idea of Priscilla being in such denial that she still hates Yoma in this episode is just so ripe with potential - - and they're all just lying there like so many loose threads just begging to be tied together.

I’m leaving this series with two overriding thoughts...

  1. There’s a strong, undeniable mental image of Clare just dominating Raki in some nasty S&M sex. He’s got to be the most (charmingly) submissive “boy toy”ever depicted.
  2. I feel like the aforementioned theoretical LA remake would actually add this all up together. It’s almost just begging for it.

Odds are, we probably won’t get a sequel series to this, and I likely won’t be reading the manga, so why don’t you lunatics do me a favor and tell me how things spun out from the divergent point in the comic? While you’re at it, throw some questions about the series which I can address when I shoot a video on my final thoughts on the show some time over the next couple days. You know I'll answer them.

Oh and, incidentally, I looked over my predictions from episode #19 and it looks like I was basically right on three out of the four of them. So +500 XP points for me.

Watch this episode "To the Successors" below, decide for yourself and then read my comments on the previous episode here.

Tom Pinchuk’s the writer of HYBRID BASTARDS! & UNIMAGINABLE. Order them on Amazon here & here. Follow him on Twitter: @tompinchuk

metalsnakezeroon Sept. 15, 2011 at 6:11 a.m.

As we said, the end of the anime series was bad regardless of having read the manga or not. I'll let the others explain what really happens.

So question: How would you feel if they did a remake of this that follows the manga version?

Turambaron Sept. 15, 2011 at 6:40 a.m.

Some critic, somewhere out there, is surely championing this as ambiguous and challenging.

I highly doubt that, or at least really hope no one is trying to defend this. And for once I don't have any contradicting thoughts on the episode. You summed up my opinions on the show quite nicely.

The divergent point happens very late into the show, right at the War in the North. The Claymores gathered up there still discover that they were most likely discarded by the Organization more than anything else, and hatch a plan to survive. As the mass of awakened beings descend on them, Priscilla and Isley look on from a distance as Priscilla comments that "there is no one left."

In truth, there were survivors, and the plot will skip forward multiple years as they hone both their skills and their hatred for the Organization while biding their time.

rubberluffyon Sept. 15, 2011 at 10:54 a.m.

Although Claymore is interesting, I'd much rather the creator's other manga, Angel Densetsuget a full-fledged anime, instead of the mostly forgotten OVA/movie it already has. It'll probably never happen, though.

No_name_here staff on Sept. 15, 2011 at 12:23 p.m.

@metalsnakezero said:

As we said, the end of the anime series was bad regardless of having read the manga or not. I'll let the others explain what really happens.

So question: How would you feel if they did a remake of this that follows the manga version?

Good Q. It's going into the video.

No_name_here staff on Sept. 15, 2011 at 12:25 p.m.

@Turambar said:

Some critic, somewhere out there, is surely championing this as ambiguous and challenging.

I highly doubt that, or at least really hope no one is trying to defend this. And for once I don't have any contradicting thoughts on the episode. You summed up my opinions on the show quite nicely.

The divergent point happens very late into the show, right at the War in the North. The Claymores gathered up there still discover that they were most likely discarded by the Organization more than anything else, and hatch a plan to survive. As the mass of awakened beings descend on them, Priscilla and Isley look on from a distance as Priscilla comments that "there is no one left."

In truth, there were survivors, and the plot will skip forward multiple years as they hone both their skills and their hatred for the Organization while biding their time.

Well, that already sounds a lot more interesting. And it answers the obvious question regarding the sense of their offense.

No_name_here staff on Sept. 15, 2011 at 12:26 p.m.

@rubberluffy said:

Although Claymore is interesting, I'd much rather the creator's other manga, Angel Densetsuget a full-fledged anime, instead of the mostly forgotten OVA/movie it already has. It'll probably never happen, though.

Huh.... that sounds like an interesting riff on the high school drama genre.

teekomeekoon Sept. 15, 2011 at 1:26 p.m.

Oh yeah, I remember Claymore's ending. Actually, I don't - I only remember that I was annoyed by it.

rubberluffyon Sept. 15, 2011 at 1:35 p.m.

@Tom_Pinchuk said:

@rubberluffy said:

Although Claymore is interesting, I'd much rather the creator's other manga, Angel Densetsuget a full-fledged anime, instead of the mostly forgotten OVA/movie it already has. It'll probably never happen, though.

Huh.... that sounds like an interesting riff on the high school drama genre.

I'd also settle for a US release of the manga but the manga has been finished for like 11 years with no mention of any company licensing it. :(

EganTheVile1on Sept. 15, 2011 at 1:51 p.m.

Question: Which characters did you come away from the series wanting to see more of or less of?

As for some of the characters fates in the manga...

Clare and Priscilla are trapped wthin the remains of The Destroyer last I heard

Miria is killed by the "anti-claymore" Raftela when she attacks the Organizations HQ

Isley is killed VIA being eaten alive by Abyss Feeders

Dauf and Riful are killed by Priscilla

Helen and Deneve stayed together (I'm getting a kinda lesbian vibe from those two)

Galetea became a nun

Raki stopped being such a pussy

Oh and this whole freaking story takes place on an island that the inhabitants believe to be the sum of the whole world, theres a Lost joke to be made somewhere I am sure

Lurkeroon Sept. 15, 2011 at 2:06 p.m.

The ending is annoying, but once I learned that it would conclude without following the manga I knew what to expect. At least you can still say Claymore is good while it follows the manga.

MrASSH0LEon Sept. 15, 2011 at 2:13 p.m.

Raki asks Clare not to kill Priscilla even know she killed her adoptive mother and countless others,but he was fine with Clare killing the Yoma that had killed his family?

You know what ....screw this anime it was a waste of time.

Turambaron Sept. 15, 2011 at 4:24 p.m.

@EganTheVile1 said:

Question: Which characters did you come away from the series wanting to see more of or less of?

As for some of the characters fates in the manga...

Clare and Priscilla are trapped wthin the remains of The Destroyer last I heard

Miria is killed by the "anti-claymore" Raftela when she attacks the Organizations HQ

Isley is killed VIA being eaten alive by Abyss Feeders

Dauf and Riful are killed by Priscilla

Helen and Deneve stayed together (I'm getting a kinda lesbian vibe from those two)

Galetea became a nun

Raki stopped being such a pussy

Oh and this whole freaking story takes place on an island that the inhabitants believe to be the sum of the whole world, theres a Lost joke to be made somewhere I am sure

Read the lastest chapters. One of those listed is actually false, and fortunately too!

EganTheVile1on Sept. 15, 2011 at 4:32 p.m.

@Turambar: Guessing the one about Clare and Priscilla still being trapped in the Destroyer?

Turambaron Sept. 15, 2011 at 4:40 p.m.

@EganTheVile1: Nah. If you are where I think you are in the manga judging by some of the things listed, its literally one chapter away.

darfox8on Sept. 15, 2011 at 5:33 p.m.

I meant to show up sooner but I never got around to commenting. I did follow the whole feature and I'm glad you like Claymore, it's pretty cool.

So in the manga Pricilla and Raki never showed up at the battle field. And Raki didn't see Pricilla eat a guy, that reveal happened off camera during a time skip. The Claymores were out matched and Miria had to devise a plan for them to survive cause they could never actually win. So they all take half of one of the pills Clair ate during the "Church" Arc(the one that surpresses your Yoki). The reasoning was that half the pill wasn't enough to surpress thier yoki but if the get knock out during battle it would kick in and dicipate their yoki making it seem like to the bad guys like they just killed their opponent. And since Claymores taste bad they prayed the bad dudes would just leave their defenseless bodies alone. In the end, out of like twenty Claymores, only seven or so(I think it was seven) survived the crazy plan. Miria was pretty wrecked about it but they convinced her that she managed to save them cause otherwise zero Claymores would of survived. Of the seven four are the "main" characters.

The Orginization creates these zombie Claymores called the Abysmal Eaters. They fight in a pack and have some sort of Hive Mind. Everytime they're defeated they retreat and learn more of the opponent until they good enough to beat him. This eventually leads to Isley's death. In his last moments he refelcts on how he changed and how he no longer wanted to be an evil king guy. he was contempt with living along side Pricilla and watching Raki grow into a stong guy. We never get to see much more of this good guy Isley cauyse he gets eaten. OOOhh and the anime implies that Isley is stronger than Pricilla but the manga makes it clear that Pricilla is the boss(she's just sort of brain dead) and Isley sort of concours in her name.

Gotta go to work so I'll post more later if you want more.

sotyfan16on Sept. 17, 2011 at 1:40 a.m.

I'm glad you enjoyed the show, Tom. It's fun while it lasts but could really use more considering the content of the manga since the show was made. I look forward to you final thoughts and what you will be watching next.

Medrexon Sept. 27, 2011 at 3:46 a.m.

A second season of Claymore really isn't that unlikely. The anime was a faithfull adaptation until right around Rigaldo shows up, All season 2 would need to do is start from there and the Mangaka expressed a desire for that to happen sometime down the line.

For me personally the story picks up and becomes really interesting just at the point where the anime jumps ship so a second season is something I'm very much hoping for.

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