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Vampire Bund: FUNimation States Edits Forthcoming

Lolis, tigers, and bears oh my!


 like this, but with more S&M
 like this, but with more S&M
The anime/manga-verse is no stranger to controversy, but sometimes its better to pick and choose your battles. Well, that's what FUNimation is trying to do with their upcoming release of Dance in the Vampire Bund.
 
Noted for it a fairly graphic/explicit depictions, including, but not limited to its very loli looking protagonist, Dance in the Vampire Bund might as well wave a flag marked "Controversy goes here." Apparently this would be too much for FUNimation, as they released this statement, indicating their intention to edit.

FUNimation Entertainment is known for releasing the titles we license in their original, uncut form, as their creators intended. However, after viewing the unedited as well as the Japanese broadcast edit of the series , we have determined the series contains controversial elements which, when taken out of context, could be objectionable to some audiences.
 
With this in mind and with approval of the licensor, we will edit select scenes from the series in streaming and home entertainment release. These are scenes which are inappropriate for U.S. viewing and are not essential to the storyline.
 
is a complex and dark drama cited by press and fans as one of the best anime series out of Japan this season. Its strong story is what brought the series to our attention and why we are bringing it to the U.S.


 Nothing to see here, move along.
 Nothing to see here, move along.
Of course, I get "why" this is happening, and if its the only way the product will see the light of day, then so be it. However, that doesn't change the fact that such things are regrettable. As the largest anime distributor in the US, they have to be concerned with public image, and shows like this "could" hurt their chances of getting other works onto Syfy or Cartoon Network, a risk I'm sure they can't take. Though it wonders how thin the line is between this, and say... strike witches. Sure, Strike witches is less explicit, but has seemingly none of the rich context and story.
 
Side note, FUNimation has stated that nothing has changed on other works. They still intend to release the uncut Strike Witches as planned.
 

Oneeyedjackson March 5, 2010 at 1:18 p.m.
 Indeed a very odd move on Funimations part.  I can see why they would censor the streaming version like they did with Strike Whitches, but with the DVD release its most likely going to kill any potential this show had.  I mean look what happend with Chrunchy Roll and Charger Girl Ju-den Chan.  CR decided to stream the censored version of one of the episodes and from then on it lost popularity with the viewers.
Chibi_Kajion March 5, 2010 at 1:41 p.m.
Atleast they told us before releasing the DVDs. But now I'm going to wonder what they cut... which will probably lead to me to downloading the fansubs.
Krison March 5, 2010 at 1:52 p.m.
I wonder if they still would have done this is Handley's sentence had played out differently?  Possibly unrelated, but just a thought.
FoxxFireArt moderator on March 5, 2010 at 1:59 p.m.
That's odd. I've watched Strike Witches on FUNimations website and they don't appear to of made any real edits from the way they were when I first saw them fan subbed.
 
Though, I have only seen the first episode of Dance of the Vampire Bund.
 
If they are worried about a public image, then why even take on the series? I was sort of interested when I heard FUNimation was airing this, but there is one issue I'm a little confused about. I completely get why it would possible need alterations for the airing on TV or on their website. Does this also mean they wont be offering it on DVD unedited? If they offer the DVD unedited I see no problem.
 
This just more makes me want to watch fan subbed versions just to see what was changed and why.
Oneeyedjackson March 5, 2010 at 2:07 p.m.
@FoxxFireArt said:

" That's odd. I've watched Strike Witches on FUNimations website and they don't appear to of made any real edits from the way they were when I first saw them fan subbed.
 
Though, I have only seen the first episode of Dance of the Vampire Bund.
 
If they are worried about a public image, then why even take on the series? I was sort of interested when I heard FUNimation was airing this, but there is one issue I'm a little confused about. I completely get why it would possible need alterations for the airing on TV or on their website. Does this also mean they wont be offering it on DVD unedited? If they offer the DVD unedited I see no problem. This just more makes me want to watch fan subbed versions just to see what was changed and why. "

Funimation made some slight edits to the first couple of episodes of Strike Witches on their video streaming sight.  Mostly just censoring out loli breasts and what not but the upcoming DVD will be unedited.  It was a smart move on Funi's part since they orginally uploaded the uncensored version but then after it got reported on anime media websites they immediately switched over to the edited versions most likely to increase the dvds sales of the uncut version.  I thought they were doing this at first with Bund but this appears to be the first time Funi is releasing an actual censored dvd title.
FoxxFireArt moderator on March 5, 2010 at 2:25 p.m.
@Oneeyedjacks: 
Really, I only watched Episode 7 of Strike Witches so far on their website. That was the one where Erica lost her panties and some of the girls were running around without bottoms. I didn't see any edits from the way I saw them in fansub originally.
 
I get why for the airing on TV or streaming they might need to edit (I haven't wanted more then the first episode). I am just not sure about the DVD. Thier statement is a bit confusing. I'm not sure it also means the DVD will be cut.
 
Hearing this just makes me want to watch the fansubs so i will know what is changed and then I might understand.
crusader8463on March 5, 2010 at 2:30 p.m.
I had no intention of ever watching the anime, i read the first few issues of the manga and it didn't interest me, but any company censoring anything out of a show is wrong. If it was in there in the first place then the original creator intended it to be there, and to modify it in anyway is saying that what they made was bad or needed improvement; ether of which is an insult to the series and its creator.
 
As well, the idea that they need to censor a shows content in order to release it in a specific location always leads to bad things. All you do is piss off the people like myself who are against any and all forms of censorship by doing these edits, and offering a product that was not as the original creator intended it to be. Both of which is just insulting to fans of the series, and to its original creator. If you honestly feel that a specific location is so uptight and repressed that you need to censor cartoon boobs, then why the hell would you even release it there in the first place? 
 
It also gives the company that release the product a bad image in some peoples eyes, because if they are willing to cut content like this than what else might they cut down the road or in other shows that they release?
Oneeyedjackson March 5, 2010 at 2:54 p.m.
@FoxxFireArt said:

" @Oneeyedjacks: 
Really, I only watched Episode 7 of Strike Witches so far on their website. That was the one where Erica lost her panties and some of the girls were running around without bottoms. I didn't see any edits from the way I saw them in fansub originally.
 
I get why for the airing on TV or streaming they might need to edit (I haven't wanted more then the first episode). I am just not sure about the DVD. Thier statement is a bit confusing. I'm not sure it also means the DVD will be cut.  Hearing this just makes me want to watch the fansubs so i will know what is changed and then I might understand. "

*we will edit select scenes from the series in streaming and home entertainment release.*
Home Entertainment Release means DVD and Blu-ray.  Its even confirmed on the offical blog post here:
 http://blog.funimation.com/2010/03/baka-and-test-dance-in-the-vampire-bund-now-live-on-funimation-com/?cp=1
 
Even if Bund were uncensored I simply wouldn't buy it.  I watched the first two episodes of Bund this morning and dropped it after that.  Terrible first episode and lame overtone in the second.  Fans of the Manga all seem upset at all the adaptation decay too.  Not a good thing if you ask me.
JDon March 5, 2010 at 2:54 p.m.
It's disappointing, though I'm a bit surprised that Yen Press didn't make changes on the manga.  The same goes with Sundome for that matter.
 
But some of the TV images make it look like she's more a flat-chested adult than a child, her legs are more woman-like, particularly the last shot in your gallery above.
DocHauson March 5, 2010 at 2:57 p.m.
After watching the second episode of the anime, I find myself agreeing with their decision. [Yes, I know Mina Tepes is technically centuries old, but good luck explaining that distinction to the cops when they drag you away in handcuffs.] 
 
If they release the DVDs unedited, I don't see much of a problem from a free speech standpoint. If they don't, well...I suppose there will be a vocal contingent of fans voicing their displeasure at that. Of course, I don't plan on watching this show right now, so this is just my two cents.
Sigueon March 5, 2010 at 2:58 p.m.
Considering the straight-up loli nipple action, this doesn't suprise me. What they're censoring won't have anything to do with the plot. It'll just have to do with it being able to be sold and also you not getting arrested for being a creepy lolicon. It's either you edit out the loli fanservice or you get nothing.
Void_Wizardon March 5, 2010 at 3:18 p.m.
If they have to censor it they never should of gotten the license.
crusader8463on March 5, 2010 at 4:29 p.m.
@Sigue said:
" Considering the straight-up loli nipple action, this doesn't suprise me. What they're censoring won't have anything to do with the plot. It'll just have to do with it being able to be sold and also you not getting arrested for being a creepy lolicon. It's either you edit out the loli fanservice or you get nothing. "
That's the whole point though. While to you it may just be the lack of nipple shots, but the original author wouldn't have included it if i wasn't meant to be there for some reason.
FoxxFireArt moderator on March 5, 2010 at 4:48 p.m.
@Void_Wizard: 
That's kind of my feelings. That or offer the DVDs unedited.
 
@Oneeyedjacks:
I liked the first episode. I just thought the Loliness of that closing image was kind of odd.
Sigueon March 5, 2010 at 4:59 p.m.
@crusader8463 said:
" @Sigue said:
" Considering the straight-up loli nipple action, this doesn't suprise me. What they're censoring won't have anything to do with the plot. It'll just have to do with it being able to be sold and also you not getting arrested for being a creepy lolicon. It's either you edit out the loli fanservice or you get nothing. "
That's the whole point though. While to you it may just be the lack of nipple shots, but the original author wouldn't have included it if i wasn't meant to be there for some reason. "
I think the reason it was included was because people like loli nipple shots... It certainly doesn't add anything to the story that can't be gotten without them.
Fabeon March 5, 2010 at 5:02 p.m.
@crusader8463: Or maybe there isn't any thing to the nipple shot at all ,maybe it's just there. not every little  thing in anime has to have some big huge meaning behind it. If you think I'm wrong ,then please explain  what deep meaning could there possible be behind a nipple?
crusader8463on March 5, 2010 at 5:32 p.m.
@Sigue:@Fabe:  When i read the manga the male character seeing her walking around naked made him feel uncomfortable, and she regularly used her nakedness as a means to gain power over those around her. When ever she would meet new people they would always feel uncomfortable being around her because she liked to always be naked. It showed that she had little interest in appearances and that it amused her to know that because of her child like form, being naked would confuse and bewilder people she would meet, fight and or have conversations with. It showed that she was really a very old person who had lived long enough to believe that appearances mean nothing, that her body was just a vessel that she was forced to live in, and that she was willing to use what ever means and social taboos at her disposal to intimidate and confuse people for her own amusement or to further her personal goals.
metalsnakezeroon March 5, 2010 at 5:37 p.m.
I wont mind them editing it as long as it doesn't effect the story. I would a like a unedited version but if it was too extreme then I can understand. I would like to add that Dance of the Vampire Bund is far extremer then Strike Witches. Where Strike Witches has pantless girls and some nude scenes while Dance of the Vampire Bund has extreme violence, nudity, and I suspect religious things.     
John_Martoneon March 5, 2010 at 5:47 p.m.
@Fabe said:
" @crusader8463: Or maybe there isn't any thing to the nipple shot at all ,maybe it's just there. not every little  thing in anime has to have some big huge meaning behind it. If you think I'm wrong ,then please explain  what deep meaning could there possible be behind a nipple? "
Circumstantially I'd like to add that nipples was one of the "major" additions to the Evangelion 1.0 movie. In the Rei towel/id scene. No point, I just found it amusing since I watched 1.11 yesterday, and saw you (in particular) talking about edits involving nipples.
Fabeon March 5, 2010 at 5:55 p.m.
@crusader8463 said:

" @Sigue:@Fabe:  When i read the manga the male character seeing her walking around naked made him feel uncomfortable, and she regularly used her nakedness as a means to gain power over those around her. When ever she would meet new people they would always feel uncomfortable being around her because she liked to always be naked. It showed that she had little interest in appearances and that it amused her to know that because of her child like form, being naked would confuse and bewilder people she would meet, fight and or have conversations with. It showed that she was really a very old person who had lived long enough to believe that appearances mean nothing, that her body was just a vessel that she was forced to live in, and that she was willing to use what ever means and social taboos at her disposal to intimidate and confuse people for her own amusement or to further her personal goals. "

 " Well OK I've never seen this series so I did not know all that so I guess I'll have to say then  there is meaning  to her nudity . How ever I can see way Funimation would want to edit that,showing full frontal nudity on a some one who looks underage no matter how many centuries she is could cause them lots of problems.  with some creative editing Funimation could still show the viewers that,s she naked while still not showing any actual nudity. and one more thing Don't  the north American companies have to get permission  from Japan before they do any editing? if that';s true then any edits that show up in the show have the OK from Japan,if it's OK with then then shouldn't it Be OK with you? Or are the local companies free to make any edit they see fit?

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