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Twittercon: Fetishes & Gossip Columns

Once again, word from the Twitterverse!


Once again, word from the Twitterverse!
 

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#1: Fetishes

The usual legal debate about loli popped up again, but on the side came an interesting discussion about how disliking certain fetishes can result in a backlash response. Choice quotes from @ANNZac:

" I really hate the "don't be such a prude!" response when you say you think a certain fetish is fuckin' gross."
 
" It's 100 percent OK to be creeped out by lolicon or rape porn or w/e, and it's OK to say so. You're not some agent of intolerance if you do."

Others agreed with the sentiment and noted that being creeped out by something didn't mean they thought it should be illegal, but for some it turned into a debate about the need for clarification.

#2: Comic Book Gossip Columns

This isn't technically part of the anime twitterverse, but it's certainly interesting: a wide variety of comic book universe Twitterers spent last night debating about whether comic book gossip columns are worth anything, or if they're just garbage. The debates got heated, and everybody made some good points. Here are some of my favorites:

  • "I need #comicsgossipcolumns about as much as I need comics. Which is to say, not at all.Doesn't mean I can't enjoy them." ( @jensaltmann)
  • "What's the definition of gossip vs what's actually industry news that's useful to know?" ( @templesmith)
  • "Conversely, what's useful and what's simply something people want to know?" ( @thenerdybird)
  • "these sites continue because they get ATTENTION valid,useful or not, a select group of people will always enjoy gossip" ( @yogina20)
  • "Comics Gossip Sites are as close as the industry gets to journalism." ( @moonandserpent)
  • "Gossip can, sometimes, be wonderful. But gossip-mongers must always be questioned and they can answer back."  ( @richjohnston)
  • "When the only voice becomes that which any business WANTS the consumer to hear that is not a good thing." ( @theswordisdrawn)
  • "But do we need comics writers? Shouldn't we get REAL writers instead?" ( @gailsimone)

Tweets of Note


And I'm going to have to cut it out now, I think. I could keep this going for hours otherwise.
lanaswifton Aug. 28, 2009 at 10:02 p.m.
I have a love/hate relationship with gossip columns and the like. Sometimes they're fun, but sometimes people really cross the line.
FoxxFireArt moderator on Aug. 29, 2009 at 4:47 a.m.
I don't have a problem with any fetish as long as no one is being forced into something or anyone is being hurt. Just because I, personally, am not into a certain sex act doesn't make it wrong. If you are criticizing others for enjoying something just because you don't like it. That does make you a prude. If they aren't hurting anyone, why care? We can't go around judging people for things they 'might' do.
I don't find male homosexuality arousing, but that doesn't make it wrong or immoral. It's just not my thing. If that makes two guys happy. More power to them.
 
I've been mocked for liking the the series Strike Witches. It's pretty loli, but it's still a fun series. I don't find the whole little girl vibe arousing so it doesn't bother me. That series also is filled with intersting tidbits of real WWII history if you are quick enough to spot them.

I just find it hypocritical to be alright with violence and gore, but get hot under the collar about some fan service shots in a manga or anime. Why is violent death and gore somehow more acceptable then shots of nudity?
For me, I think it depends on the vibe behind it. If it's all about a playful and funny way of sexuality I enjoy it. A good example I believe would be Komodo no Jikan. I tried to give it a try, but the girls were just sooo young and the vibe eventually got very dark at times. I just couldn't get into it. On the other side, series like Ai Kora and GirlSaurus are playful and funny.
People try to say that the kind of person who buys and reads lolicon or rape hentai manga/anime can't be trusted, because they are very likely to care out that act. That makes about as much sense as saying those who listen to rap music and heavy metal are more then likely going to commit a violent crime.
I've been playing violent video games before there was a ESRB rating system, but I have never felt the urge harm others. Games and reality are two different things. The same for manga and reality.
sunfloweron Aug. 29, 2009 at 8:08 a.m.
And as a follow-up to DMPs tweet last week about a big new BL title, evidently they spilled the news on their own.  They got Maiden Rose.
giaon Aug. 29, 2009 at 8:52 a.m.
@sunflower said:
" And as a follow-up to DMPs tweet last week about a big new BL title, evidently they spilled the news on their own.  They got Maiden Rose. "
I saw that, but I thought it was old news? I vaguely recalled it already being lice--oh, shit, that's a Drama Queen rescue, isn't it?
sunfloweron Aug. 29, 2009 at 9:16 a.m.
@gia: Yep, they got it from DQ.  If that's not a sign that DQ is dead, I don't know what is.
giaon Aug. 29, 2009 at 9:25 a.m.
@sunflower: I know you didn't mean this, but just to clarify for anyone else who might be reading this-- DMP didn't pick it up directly "from" Drama Queen; doubtless DQ lost the license (there's often a deadline by which the books have to be published or the contract is void; some licenses also just expire) and it reverted back to the original copyright owners (Ookura Shuppan), who then licensed it back out to DMP.
sunfloweron Aug. 29, 2009 at 10:27 a.m.
@gia: Yes, sorry.  I looked at what I said after I posted it and realized it wasn't too clear, but was too lazy to change it.
giaon Aug. 29, 2009 at 10:50 a.m.
@sunflower: No worries-- it's my job to be clear, not yours ;)
lanaswifton Aug. 29, 2009 at 10:53 a.m.
Whoever they got it from, it's about freakin' time.

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