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So, I've been updating our forums every week(ish) for the last few weeks with a new question, and now I'm going to expand that into a weekly feature here on the news page. Every week I'll either post a single user's response, or everyone's, depending on what the responses are like!

Last week's question was about Hollywood adapatations of manga and anime-- do you think it's possible for Hollywood to make a good one, in spite of the misses they've had in the recent past ( Dragonball Evolution, Speed Racer)?

Most of you felt it was feasible, but that it may require a particularly stolid set of people making decisions, and others thought it was outright impossible. Here's what you said!

JJOR64 said:

Hollywood easily has the potential to make a great anime/manga movie as long as they stay true to the source material and don't make up stuff like Goku going to school in Dragonball Evolution.

 

AjayRaz said:

no, just no.

 
 Speed Racer
 Speed Racer

Niko said:


I personally think it happened already with Speed Racer, but that is a stretch with being an adaptation of an adaptation.

But yeah, it's always possible, just not so much when Hollywood panders to the lowest common denominator. They don't have to stay line by line to the original series. Hollywood's success with comic-book movies prove that. The main problem tends to come with dumbing down the material and trying to pander to that Hollywood thinks should be the target audience (like DBE).

Of course, anime fans are a small audience, so if Hollywood is going to adapt an anime or manga, it's not for us. Despite that, the attempt should be made to make works that they will like as well as the mainstream, and we fans have to remember not to rage over some changes. I had to get used to organic webshooters, so I can get used to Keanu Reeves as long as he doesn't suck, a call I won't make without seeing a trailer.

 

sora_thekey said:


Nope.... Fans are too picky.... Even if it's good fans won't like it!

 

rocketbomber said:

 A good story, with strong characters first, money later.
 
...a fact most film & tv producers have long since forgotten, if they ever knew it at all.
 
Are good anime/manga adaptations Possible?  Yes.
 
Historically, tho?  Fail, fail, fail.

 
 Cowboy Bebop
 Cowboy Bebop

N15PCA said:


 

I look at it like this.  When anime was first being Dub in the United States 99% of it was crap.  Years later it started getting better and now it to the point that some eng dubs are even better (Ghost In the Shell , Cowboy Bebop, Hellsing and Monster.) than their Japanese counter parts.
 
I feel the same way with live action verison of anime in Hollywood.  We are going to go though some bad live action anime at first, but over I think they are going to get better.  The only thing is that if Hollywood welling to stay with it long enough get to that point.
 
Another problem is what anime can do things over live action and  it also dosen't look good when they try to do in live action realm.    Here some examples.

Of course these problem also happen when Hollywood try to live action a cartoon movie or show.  I just hope it works out.  With 1212 Entertainment being made their might be a chance.

 
 Goku didn't even LIKE going to school!
 Goku didn't even LIKE going to school!

Newdeath said:


 

For Hollywood to make a good anime or manga adaptation wouldn't really be a difficult task for them. They could do it with ease however it seems they are more concentrated in the money rather than the progression of the movies. They should also gather actual information from the manga or anime they would make a movie from to properly have the knowledge needed to write an interesting story instead of making things up that really only worsen the movie. Dragon Ball Evolution being an example, Goku goes to school, he actually curses, his personality is quite different etc. Piccolo wasn't even green, Master Roshi only had a brief moment for his perversion which was never again seen in the movie and was not bald nor did he wear his trademark sun glasses.  
 
Hollywood's problem is that they try to add far too much of their own ideas to whatever they are making an adaptation of and end up overshadowing the original concepts and making their ideas shine and this only worsens the movie, they should find a good balance between their ideas and the things actually in whatever they are adapting and not removing most of them to make room for their insane ideas.  
 
They have the potential but some seem determined enough to use it.

 
 Why So Serious?
 Why So Serious?

rein said:


I think we have already seen this in the Changing form of superhero movies. The movies that s

tayed close to the actual stories, instead of messing with the characters, settings etc (spiderman, Batman, Ironman) tend to be extremely popular. when hollywood tries To make it "more relatable to The general public" *cough* Superman's Bastard Son *cough* They generally Become abominations.

 

So there you have it!


This week's question is: what anime characters would be at YOUR dysfunctional family Thanksgiving dinner? You can submit your answers (or read mine) here!
 

 ...Or can we?
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AjayRazon Nov. 23, 2009 at 3:57 p.m.
this is pretty cool, and i was (i guess you could say) mentioned in a article!! D:  
it's interesting to read everyone's submissions, since i didn't yet. 
FoxxFireArt moderator on Nov. 23, 2009 at 4:07 p.m.
 It's "feasible" that you could win the lottery. it's just highly unlikely. The same goes for Hollywood and the trend of live-action anime movies.
 
The box office speaks volumes:
 

Dragon Ball: Evolution

Production cost: 45,000,000
Boxoffice Earned (gross): 9,000.000 US market
Made Goku an emo loser who couldn't score with girls. I don't think Goku even knew what school was until he met Master Roshi. Let alone even know what girls were for.

Speed Racer

Production cost: 120,000,000
Boxoffice Earned (gross): 44,000,000 US market 
Not to forget that you can't watch it if you had epilepsy. 
 

StreetFighter: Legend of Chun-Li

Production cost: 50,000,000
Boxoffice Earned (gross):  9,000,000 US market
Not anime, but still originally a Japanese product.
 
Not only do these movies fail among the fans. They fail at the box office. Cowboy Bebop and this Death Note-lite will follow the same patterns and suffer the same fate. The reason they work in Japan is because they actually stick to the heart of the story. Rather then trying to make special-effect orgies.
JJOR64on Nov. 23, 2009 at 4:44 p.m.
Another great feature to Anime Vice.  :)
giaon Nov. 23, 2009 at 4:51 p.m.
@FoxxFireArt: Technically, Street Fighter is based on a game, not an anime ;) And I still maintain that Speed Racer was pretty fun ^_^
 
@JJOR64: Glad you like! :)
FoxxFireArt moderator on Nov. 23, 2009 at 5:02 p.m.
@gia: 
It's still a Japanese product where the characters are drawn in anime style. It's also a manga series done by the Udon Crew. Also there have been anime movies based on the game series. It still counts.
 
I remember for laughs watching a review on youtube for that farce of a Dragon Ball movie. They actually went to talk to people who saw the movie coming out of the theater. One person walked out thirty minutes in. No one else came out of that theater. No one showed up for the second showing.
giaon Nov. 23, 2009 at 5:22 p.m.
@FoxxFireArt: There's been an anime of the Highlander now, too, but I won't consider any new Hollywood Highlander flicks to be really anime-related ;)
 
No one in my showing of DBE walked out, at least that I noticed (granted, I was liveblogging at the time). And anyway, Speed Racer was still fun ^_^
FoxxFireArt moderator on Nov. 23, 2009 at 5:33 p.m.
@gia: 
I go back to what I said. StreetFighter was 'originally' a Japanese game that was just anime style sprites, drawn in an anime style. They were animation put into a game, then put to full animation.
 
Highlander was 'originally' a movie that was created for the US/European market. Several movies and TV series later it was animated.
 
You're example doesn't apply.
giaon Nov. 23, 2009 at 9:58 p.m.
@FoxxFireArt: I'll give you Street Fighter, but mostly because I want to point out that you've never once responded to my allegation that Speed Racer is a perfectly acceptable Hollywood adaptation. ;)
FoxxFireArt moderator on Nov. 23, 2009 at 11:01 p.m.
@gia: 
Because a lie that deep could damage my very soul. It's the use of the word "acceptable".

I also can't classify that as a movie, but falls under the category of special-effects orgy. I heard they couldn't even get the license for the iconic theme song. Just on that level they failed.
sora_thekey moderator on Nov. 24, 2009 at 7:27 a.m.
@FoxxFireArt said:
" @gia:  Because a lie that deep could damage my very soul. It's the use of the word "acceptable".I also can't classify that as a movie, but falls under the category of special-effects orgy. I heard they couldn't even get the license for the iconic theme song. Just on that level they failed. "

This proves my answer up there.... (Fans = Too picky)

I never even saw Speed Racer, haven't finished Street Fighter, and no I do not like DBZ...... Never have never will! 
 
Don't get me wrong not because I'm picky it's just that Speed Racer never caught my intrest... 
 
Make a movie about Inuyasha, Digimon or even Monster Rancher and then I'll watch it but DBZ I have never read or watched before so NO, Street Fighter on the other hand I do want to see just haven't had the chance... Speed Racer, I'll watch someday but its not in my plans yet....
Oneeyedjackson Nov. 25, 2009 at 9:12 a.m.
I think a Hollywood live-action adaptation will end in one of two ways which I think has been mentioned above:  
 
Either one, its a faithful adaptation but fails to click with the major movie going audience.(ex: Speed Racer)
 
Or its a crap fest that doesn't even resemble its source material in an attempt to make it click with the major movie going demographic.(ex:  DB Evolution)
 
I Imagine The Last Airbender movie based on Nickelodeons Avatar that M Night is doing will most likely succumb to one of the above.(Yes I know its not anime but i think it  counts towards the topic in question)
kira112on Nov. 25, 2009 at 5:04 p.m.
@Oneeyedjacks:
umm just to clear this the avatar ,isnt about avatar the air binder: /
asunaon Nov. 25, 2009 at 9:04 p.m.
no its not
japanese animation is better
the drawings of hollywood has no similarity through the drawings of animation of japanese
 
japanese animation drawings is much better...
LordofPrinnyson Nov. 27, 2009 at 10:23 p.m.
@kira112 :
No he was right as he was referring to M Night Shyamalan's movie The Last Air Bender which is due out 2nd July 2010 based on the nickelodeon cartoon Avatar: The Last Air Bender,  not the James Cameron movie Avatar.
SilverZeoon Nov. 29, 2009 at 8:15 p.m.
I think when out generation starts to take control of the country, if not the movie-franchise, then we can get the great anime movies that we're are currently watched.  That's way I think the Transformers and Speed Racer movies seem good as the the EPIC black hole of suckiness that is Dragonball Evolution.
comicfanforeveron Nov. 30, 2009 at 6:01 p.m.
@FoxxFireArt said:
" It's "feasible" that you could win the lottery. it's just highly unlikely. The same goes for Hollywood and the trend of live-action anime movies.
 
The box office speaks volumes:
 

Dragon Ball: Evolution

Production cost: 45,000,000
Boxoffice Earned (gross): 9,000.000 US market
Made Goku an emo loser who couldn't score with girls. I don't think Goku even knew what school was until he met Master Roshi. Let alone even know what girls were for.

Speed Racer

Production cost: 120,000,000
Boxoffice Earned (gross): 44,000,000 US market 
Not to forget that you can't watch it if you had epilepsy. 
 

StreetFighter: Legend of Chun-Li

Production cost: 50,000,000
Boxoffice Earned (gross):  9,000,000 US market
Not anime, but still originally a Japanese product.
 
Not only do these movies fail among the fans. They fail at the box office. Cowboy Bebop and this Death Note-lite will follow the same patterns and suffer the same fate. The reason they work in Japan is because they actually stick to the heart of the story. Rather then trying to make special-effect orgies. "


Astro Boy (2009): 
Production cost: 65.000.000 
Boxoffice Earned (gross): $18,922,566  US market  
 
Source :  http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=astroboy.htm  
 You forget  to mention the film Astro Boy (2009), I saw the movie and it very bad....

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