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An outraged writer at CNET posted today whining that even though Equality Now made enough of a fuss about RapeLay-- the visual novel/rape simulator video game --that the game was taken off the shelves (not to mention game producers got together and agreed on some new self-imposed rules for future games), people are still downloading and playing the game. 

I found it kind of amusing that one Equality Now member is quoted as saying that the game has "no place on the market," specifically using a term about sales, and yet the whole point of the article is that there is a significant "market" that's downloading the game. Maybe someone should explain to Equality Now what "market" means. Then they can go back to just talking about how it's really bad, mmkay?, etc.

(Note: I'm not into rape games, but I'm also not into censorship because of a group's moral outrage, even if I think the game sounds pretty bad.)

Coincidentally, the day before the CNN piece went up, The Register reported on a game called Cross Days-- the latest in the School Days franchise --which is also being downloaded heavily...the problem being that one of the illicit torrents is, in fact, a virus that publishes a screen cap and personal info from the downloader's computer.

You know, I don't actually think that Equality Now is a likely culprit in this virus, but that actually be kinda funny. (Also an unlikely culprit but someone who benefits: MangaGamer, a rep from which recently spoke out about rampant visual novel piracy.)

...But I'm sure the actual culprit is just some jerk with a hard-on against anime fans or something. What do you think?    
Liminalityon March 30, 2010 at 2:09 p.m.
Haven't virus always been like this?
 
About those games... " (Note: I'm not into rape games, but I'm also not into censorship because of a group's moral outrage, even if I think the game sounds pretty bad.) " this is my point of view.
 
Also even when if it's supposed to be bad and I don't actually like it, I kind of like the idea that you can find anything, even this, as long as it's something that doesn't affect directly to someone.
FoxxFireArt moderator on March 30, 2010 at 2:21 p.m.
The topic of rape aside. I'd never buy or download such a game. It's not really something that appeals to me. It was one of the major factors as to why I couldn't get finish the first season of Ikkitousen.
 
This is a prime example as to why downloading comes with an advantage. They don't really have to worry about how some group might take offense. Causing official publishers to alter or censor in order the placate people who were never going to be interested in buying the game to begin with. So, in a very sad way. It's the downloaded versions that often ends up being the most accurate. Such as in what I talked about in my blog post about how VIZ removed the word "god" completely from the One Piece manga. While the change made wasn't story altering in this case. It was just silly and pointless.
 
It should be that official companies make the most accurate product possible, but that's not always the case.
ThePsychoGameron March 30, 2010 at 2:35 p.m.
@gia: Well i'm sure most people who like porn know that even computers can get STDs
 
Or a nearly empty computer can get filled up with pronigraphic pictures if your Tatsushiro Satou
JJOR64on March 30, 2010 at 3:25 p.m.
People are still complaining about RapeLay?
Chengyon March 30, 2010 at 3:29 p.m.
I wonder if they will turn Cross days into like another season for school days, could be interesting.
G12LMOon March 30, 2010 at 4:29 p.m.
They made a rape simulator game..? Well... it IS Japan....
Konandaon March 30, 2010 at 6:54 p.m.

Man my friend showed me the ending to School Days on Crunchyroll and now I kind of want to watch the series to see how the story worked out to the point where the main characters just completely lost their minds.

OmegaChosenon March 30, 2010 at 7:12 p.m.
@Chengy: I kind of don't see that happening, mainly due to the main character, who isn't in that picture. But you wouldn't be able to tell. And that's the whole point. Because he's a guy. 
 Yeah.
 @Konanda: It's kind of interesting but I still feel like it was kind of a big jump. But meh.
 @ General: Regarding the virus, it's basically a program that looks like the installer for the actual game but when you run it, it asks for information such as your name and whatever, then it posts the info on a site for all the internet to see, alongside a screencap of your desktop when you finished "running" the program, which I imagine is rather bad if you're getting ready to play an H-game. You can get your info taken down, but you gotta admit to having downloaded the game and then apologize for it. The funny thing is that the program tells you what it's going to do right in the EULA, but as typical nobody reads that. >_>
Liminalityon March 30, 2010 at 8:15 p.m.
@OmegaChosen said:
" @ General: Regarding the virus, it's basically a program that looks like the installer for the actual game but when you run it, it asks for information such as your name and whatever, then it posts the info on a site for all the internet to see, alongside a screencap of your desktop when you finished "running" the program, which I imagine is rather bad if you're getting ready to play an H-game. You can get your info taken down, but you gotta admit to having downloaded the game and then apologize for it. The funny thing is that the program tells you what it's going to do right in the EULA, but as typical nobody reads that. >_> "
That sounds fun.
Oishi_47on March 30, 2010 at 9:34 p.m.
I could totally see the person who made the program, which I can't really call a virus since it says what it does, as a game programmer who is actually an aficionado of H-games. It makes more sense than someone who doesn't like anime. You have to consider that they have the knowledge to create this program and specifically targeted an H-game, as opposed to targeting a much larger group such as a people downloading a AAA game or a normal application. I guess the people who can't tell that their downloading a fake could have something far worse than this happen to them. 
Lydian_Selon March 31, 2010 at 4:20 a.m.
I think it's very unlikely that anybody at Equality Now had anything to do with this virus; it seems more like the kind of savage burn perpetrated  by somebody who has some familiarity with the the game itself or at least the high drama surrounding it. The heavy hand of cencorship is about to come down fucking hard on my country & while I in no means support the proliferation of any materials that glamorise or glorify rape in any way, shape, or form I find myself much more inclined to defend a fantastical game about a taboo subject matter rather than any governing body, ethos, or ideology drawing lines where they deem savory.
PureRokon March 31, 2010 at 12:23 p.m.
I've played RapeLay. It's quite tame, really.
cfatalison March 31, 2010 at 12:42 p.m.
@PureRok said:
" I've played RapeLay. It's quite tame, really. "
this is true , there are many others that is ............. wilder
 
EN= idiots, they don't even have an understanding of the terminology they use
 
rapelay? no market?
why the fuck there's 6 series?
Charagonon April 1, 2010 at 5:57 a.m.
Yeah, I saw that on CNN.com yesterday and was like "Huh? This game has been out for years. How is this news?"
sickVisionz moderator on April 1, 2010 at 6:15 a.m.
I hope they make a Cross Days anime.  School Days is one of my faves.
Sandon April 1, 2010 at 9:13 a.m.
I can't get too upset about simulated rape when so many videogames simulate murder.  Plenty of people (men and women alike) also fantasize about being raped or raping someone.  Go through the sketchbooks of many elementary school kids and you'll find lots of people getting killed and eaten by monsters.  Human beings tend to have fantasies that they would never want to experience in the real world.
 
If we applied the "OH NO RAPELAY" logic to everyone who purchased Grand Theft Auto, we'd be living in the post-apocalyptic age right now.
Arjunaon April 1, 2010 at 8:52 p.m.
I've been going through film-maker, Ingmar Bergman's, filmography.  The last film I watched is called, The Virgin Spring, and features a rather gratuitous and prolonged rape scene; even by today's standards.  The movie is from 1960.  I'm also a fan of writer, William S. Burroughs, who has detailed out some incredibly violent rape scenarios, especially in his novel, The Naked Lunch; scenarios which I am confident would make the, man-sneaking-into-bedroom-window-late-at-night, scenarios of these games tame in comparison.  The novel was included in Time magazine's "100 Best English-language Novels from 1923 to 2005".  That book was published in 1959. 
 
My point is:  Hasn't this been figured out yet?  There have been far more "obscene" things, and from a more conservative time, that have steadfastly been protected under freedom-of-speech laws. 
 
The sky's the limit for me.  Any manner of "obscene" ideas can exist and pass by me, and also be put up to scrutiny and debate; but I don't think you should simply try and make something not exist...  Don't be such a pussy...  Challenge yourself. 
 
What's more obscene?  These rape games?  ...or perhaps that scene in Saving Private Ryan, where the character has a knife slowly plunged into his chest...  Why is it always sex-related matters that receive the most attention for being obscene?  Prudes; that's why.  Prudes.
Oishi_47on April 1, 2010 at 10:59 p.m.
@Arjuna:  I believe that the type of media determines the acceptability of more obscene material. Year after year movies with things like rape scenes and nudity are critically acclaimed, publicly accepted and given awards. In our society, people can see that such things can be an integral part of the plot of a movie or novel, but if some nudity happens to appear on TV, some people  are sued, some people are fires, then the whole system has to undergo a reform. Mother's are supposed to breastfeed their babies then deny the existence of boobs for a decade and a half. All of this in spite of the fact that most kids learn about sex in grade school regardless of weather or not the school has established a sexual education program.      
I watched the video on the article and a few thoughts come to mind. Why should we be concerned that the Japanese are producing things that can be considered pornographic? The states makes things like that too, called porn. Sure the game depicts rape, but porn has that too, and more... Also, apparently not wanting to take the calls of CNN on behalf of the morally self righteous, right-wing, conservatives using feminism as an excuse to censor other countries media makes their government "insensitive" to the issue. You can tell they aren't real feminist, cause they aren't tackling a real issue like equalizing pay grades, and of course the Japanese government would have nothing better to do than to indulge them. A feminist group campaigning against something like this is like if PETA tried to ban animal crackers. "WHEAT, GLUCOSE, SUCROSE, AND HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP IS MURDER!" It's also worth noting that they acknowledged that the last time this was controversial, the news coverage was free advertising and lead to international recognition of this sub-par porn game. Then, it seems like the obvious thing to do would be to cover it again and tell people that they can get it FREE!
 
I guess the main point is that this is interactive porn? I guess the fact that interactive porn was introduced in the states back when Unscrewed was on what was still called Tech TV and covered the Adult Entertainment Expo doesn't count? I like the final line in the video: "...no one should play a game in which the only way to win is to rape." The business model of Call of Duty disagrees. 
cfatalison April 1, 2010 at 11:07 p.m.
@oishi_47: other competitve gaming would also like to disagree
 
AC series would very much like a word with this people
Oishi_47on April 2, 2010 at 12:12 a.m.
@cfatalis: To which AC do you refer?

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