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Parting Ways with AKAME GA KILL!

It really comes down to this specific visual here.

Oof. I had this same issue with CHAIKA, THE COFFIN PRINCESS

I realize it’s all fantasy at the end of the day, but there’s something about the specific sight of a gal pulling a BFG out (and a sniper a rifle, at that!) in a pseudo-medieval setting. It always strikes me as lazy imagining. Like, I can picture the crew planning this show, working out the steampunk world’s lore, and somebody raises his hand because they’ve simply got to fit a headshot in somewhere.

This show had a strong opener that cleverly subverted a lot of expectations, but it’s pretty quickly been overwhelmed by a lot of Stereotypical Anime nonsense that I just can’t get excited about. For a show that’s already paid a lot of service to the politics of this struggle, it doesn’t seem to have actually built that cohesive a world. Again, it’s all wrapped up in that scene with the ‘sniping.’ Really, it’s as if some craftier user hacked WoW so he crowbar his COUNTER STRIKE inventory in.

It’s still hard to argue with the intrigue of this naïve little hero getting introduced to gray morality by his new ‘co-workers,’ but it’s already gotten harder to see past how generic this show is. The designs aren’t memorable, the setting isn’t well-defined… I’ve only ever been praising this show in the very specific context of the season it’s debuted in. And now, I think I’ll be looking into other seasons for something better.

Watch "Kill Your Cares" and decide for yourself, then read my comments on the previous episode.

Oglaphoneon Aug. 25, 2014 at 12:02 p.m.

I'd say the setting's more pseudo-19th Century than Medieval, though at the end of the day it seems to come from the same place as a lot of JRPGs or something.

As for the other complaints, well, they're perfectly understandable, though evidently they've never bothered me as much as they have you.

takashichea moderator on Aug. 25, 2014 at 12:31 p.m.

I had a feeling Tom would drop this show because of the harem thing which is debateble. I know Tom hates Chibi, Amnesiac Child Assassins, and video game based anime shows. Though, this anime didn't fall in those categories. Guess I'll be adding harem into that list. I have yet to figure out what Sam hates in anime. Unless, I missed a Vice Pit on it.

That's why we encourage folks to check the discussion threads. Not everything will be reviewed. Everyone has their own tastes. You can't force someone to review a show they hate.

For me, I enjoy the series just I did for Chaika. Though, I take Chaika over Akame ga Kill since Chaika isn't too brutal and gorey.

Check out the Akame ga Kill Discussion for those who love the show and want to share their thoughts on it.

Kino88on Aug. 25, 2014 at 12:56 p.m.
While I still think this show sucks, it's never bugged too much Too see modern day weaponry in a medieval setting Even if it is done a bit too often these days,
YotaruVegetaon Aug. 25, 2014 at 2:37 p.m.

Well, that's that, then. Didn't even get to the harsher business.

Wasn't it clear from seeing the main dude wearing a sweater with a dress shirt that this is a mix n match setting, full of features from several time periods all jumbled together?

Um, off topic, but why doesn't Tom have a profile page? It's a link to nothing.

Marshal Victoryon Aug. 25, 2014 at 3:05 p.m.

Normally I like my modern day weapons not touching my fantasy either. But that weapon is not a modern day weapon so um theirs that. No reload no an its magic as the more danger she is in the more powerful the shots are. Show me the modern day weapon that does that? Um how did you miss this in the pilot?

If that truly bothers ya then avoid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_(setting) which had black power weapons an magic in a fantasy setting . Also avoid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowrun which has modern an future weapons plus magic tho in a future-ish cyberpunk setting.. also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadlands which has western weapons an magic in a western setting. These are some of the more jumbled setting arc types that stories from anime to graphic novels state side have drawn from.

So to be clear modern/ future day rappelling gear in an fantasy setting like Attack on Titan is ok tho? But a magic gun like weapon is a game breaker?

Wraithon Aug. 25, 2014 at 3:43 p.m.
The setting for this series is a little bit weird. You get both eastern and western style buildings in the same place with guards using modern guns and swords with magic weapons. Mixing and matching different genres.
zaldaron Aug. 25, 2014 at 3:56 p.m.

@Marshal Victory: Shadowrun did a good job of incorporating the magic as it was a modern world then broken by the return of magic. Warhammer I always wondered where it came from but I never looked to closely was always to big on action and not enough on plot for me, much like D@D. Anything by white wolf I would much prefer. (there is an interesting idea for an anime one off of white wolf game world). Have not seen this show - and no desire to so can not comment on it directly but certainly a mix and match setting can not work.

For shows from other seasons. For comedy recommend Read or Die (though would have to start with a movie) or El-Hazard. For non comedy - from the new world, and I would also really love to see you do Serial Experiments Lain, Paranoia Agent (just be sure to have something mind altering if you do this one as it gets freaking weird fast), or Now and Then Here and There (though don't do this one if prone to depression as it is brutal).

Marshal Victoryon Aug. 25, 2014 at 4:34 p.m.

@zaldar: Tokyo Ghoul fits into that http://www.white-wolf.com world of darkness very well actually. Um mix an match settings do work an those arctypes I listed were proof they can an do. Dropping the show over something seen in the pilot ,this late in the game, after ever one notes to you its not a harem is not a good thing.

Tom should avoid the movie Army of Darkness because shotguns in a medieval fantasy setting. If this type of thing does offend so that is. Oddly its ok in Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood that they have pistols an magic tho. Watch & learn went the distance with that series. While Akame ga Kill is a bit of a hodgepodge it is not without a style an is not pure chaos in design.

takashichea moderator on Aug. 25, 2014 at 11:33 p.m.

@Marshal Victory:

Attack on Titan's tech is realistic for its setting. They had cannons, and their Three Dimensional Maneuver Gear operates on gas.

Oh, I forgot add one more thing to Tom's list, overly generic anime shows. I don't mind generic shows as long as they are not boring to me. I guess I'm an easy guy. The stuff that makes me drop shows are overly ecchi and gross shows. Yet, somehow, I didn't drop Pupa or Recently, My Sister is Unusual when incest became really awkward. Sometimes, I wonder if my mind is sane.

@YotaruVegeta:

It happened to at Screened. His profile also got deleted as well. Sam Weller made a new account, but Tom loves his missing account. It prevents users from writing on his wall. :)

I'll be seeing you in the Akame ga Kill discussion.

@Wraith:

I notice that, too. Sheele's downtown district has Chinese influences even her outfit resembles a Qipao. The Red Light District is a Japanese influenced district since I seen that in Samurai Champloo's Red Light District with the red lanterns and such.

Wrote this on the wiki page. Slums resemble something from the Middle East because the women were wearing belly dancer attire while the men wear turbans.

Downtown District
Slums
Red Light District

I think Magi had the most consistency in fashion. They deal with Faux Arabian, Roman, and Chinese Empires with different dynasties.

Here's an example I wrote on Toya's page. She wears a Cheongsam while Kougyoku Ren wears a Hanfu.

katmicon Aug. 26, 2014 at 1:10 a.m.

I have never been a fan of akame ga kill. I tried reading the manga early this year; while it tried to be somewhat different, i hated the way the character development was done. it was way too straightforward and almost bland. it was also not very subtle in trying to make akame the tragic hero we all had to pity. I couldn't get past the first ten chapters. But something tells me the anime will be better.

Oglaphoneon Aug. 27, 2014 at 1:13 p.m.

You know, I never felt that attempts to give Akame a tragic backstory or make us feel sorry for her were particularly belabored. Her past's a sad one, but she seems to enjoy herself just fine for the most part in the present, and I've never felt pity-appeal was a major part of her character.

takashichea moderator on Aug. 27, 2014 at 1:26 p.m.

@katmic:

I'm confused. Did you read Akame Ga Kill! or Akame ga Kill! Zero? Zero is the prequel story that revolves around Akame. It's best to read Akame ga Kill first than read Zero. It's just like when you watch Fate Stay Night first and then watch Fate/Zero. You enjoy the prequel more in situations where the author creates the story and a prequel later on.

katmicon Aug. 28, 2014 at 12:37 a.m.

@takashichea: I read akame ga kill. they delve into akame's past in a few pages of a chapter during the first ten chapters. i don't remember who but it was one of the assassins who told the protagonist about it (don't remember his name either).

@Oglaphone said:

You know, I never felt that attempts to give Akame a tragic backstory or make us feel sorry for her were particularly belabored. Her past's a sad one, but she seems to enjoy herself just fine for the most part in the present, and I've never felt pity-appeal was a major part of her character.

I didn't mind akame's past or really anything about akame ga kill; i just didn't like how they approached the story; like many of the plots, the back story revelations of many characters always came out of nowhere, were almost always irrelevant to the plot at the time (they didn't even make sense as small talk before a mission, not when you are talking about assassins revealing their deepest secrets to some kid they only met a few days ago). they also felt very rushed. Imagine two characters walking down a road, talking about farming. then one of them stops the other and says, "Oh by the way, i was betrayed and tortured as a child. He's what has happened to me in the last ten years." that was how the back stories were handled, irrelevant, came out of nowhere and unnecessary at that time beyond allowing the protagonist to pity one of the assassins.

Maybe the anime approaches things differently; i am yet to watch it. the manga however felt like it was fumbling to get everything out so it can get to the action. it spoiled the flow of the story for me.

Oglaphoneon Aug. 28, 2014 at 11:32 a.m.

Can't say it ever came across much like that to me, though maybe I'm forgetting an important case. As I recall in the manga, Akame's past is revealed to Tatsumi by Leone, because at that point Tatsumi's found Akame to be quite harsh, distant and hard to understand, so Leone tries to help Tatsumi understand her by telling him about her history. So, it was quite an understandable thing for her to do.

takashichea moderator on Aug. 28, 2014 at 1:57 p.m.

@katmic:

Oglaphone gave the assassin's name. They only revealed a small portion of Akame's past and not into detail of what happened between her and Kurome in the first ten chapters of Akame ga Kill.

taichokageon Aug. 28, 2014 at 8:45 p.m.

That's far too premature in my opinion. But then again I'm a manga reader so I know just how dark it gets. There are some cliche elements but every series has something cliche.

katmicon Aug. 29, 2014 at 2:38 a.m.

@Oglaphone said:

Can't say it ever came across much like that to me, though maybe I'm forgetting an important case. As I recall in the manga, Akame's past is revealed to Tatsumi by Leone, because at that point Tatsumi's found Akame to be quite harsh, distant and hard to understand, so Leone tries to help Tatsumi understand her by telling him about her history. So, it was quite an understandable thing for her to do.

Yes, Akame was quite harsh; but i don't remember Tatsumi showing any interest in knowing why Akame was harsh. IN fact i don't think he gave Akame's harshness much thought after each encounter. He would move on till his next meeting with her. The revelation wasn't necessary because, A) it didn't really tell Tatsumi anything; so Akame had a harsh life, how did that translate into her being mean to just him, and B) Tatsumi didn't seem anywhere nearly as interested in finding this out until Leone brought it up.

So yes, Leone's revelations came out of nowhere; as i was reading those panels, i kept asking myself why the hell Leone was talking to tatsumi about Akame, why he felt it necessary and why he felt comfortable discussing a team mate's history with a total stranger. It was premature

Oglaphoneon Aug. 29, 2014 at 12:52 p.m.

While Tatsumi didn't state that he was curious about Akame's personal history, he did say that he couldn't work out what she was thinking, and that it bothered him. I also think he was bothered by her admonishments and he stated that he wanted to make her acknowledge him. Leone, who he was closest to on the team and who recruited him in the first place told Tatsumi a bit about her background to emphasise that Akame was a consummate assassin that knew what she was talking about, and to help understand her a bit better.

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