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OH GOD Part Two: Anime, Manga and Philosophy

Mmm, judging books by their covers.


I haven't read any of the books in the "________ and Philosophy" line myself, although I believe someone once bought me a copy of The Simpsons and Philosophy, and it looked good and interesting and I sat down and read a manga instead.

Unfortunately, publisher Open Court's next two offerings-- Anime and Phiosophy, due in April, and Manga and Philosophy, due in June --don't look anywhere near as slick as the Simpsons book. Apparently it's SO impossible to get the rights to put an actual anime or manga on the cover or find a decent artist that they resorted to using lame Fullmetal Alchemist fanart instead.

Both books are written by the same pair, one Professor Josef Steiff , a Ph.D in philosophy and associate chair of the Film & Video department at Columbia College (NOT to be confused with Columbia University), and Dr. Adam Barkman, an assistant professor of philosophy at Yonsei University in South Korea.

I know, I know, I'm being super unfair: I'm judging a book by the cover. But I also wonder at the fact that this was done as two separate books. Of the titles mentioned for the anime book-- Astro Boy, Dragon Ball Z, Ghost in the Shell, and Spirited Away --only that last one was an anime before it was a manga. If they wanted to keep on with big titles, why not replace one of those with Neon Genesis Evangelion, whose anime was created concurrently with its manga release, at least to start? I have a mildly similar complaint with the manga version, which brings up Space Battleship Yamato-- which was an anime before it was a manga.

I'm totally open to the idea that these books could turn out to be really cool. But so far, they're not doing a great job of getting me excited.
 
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Slimon Jan. 20, 2010 at 10:57 a.m.
This anything like the Anime teaches physics books?
sora_thekey moderator on Jan. 20, 2010 at 11:25 a.m.
Huh? I don't get it!
 
Philosophy... I don't know how this works?
Lanon Jan. 20, 2010 at 11:42 a.m.
The only one of those titles that interests me is Spirited Away. There are many other anime much more oriented towards philosophy than DBZ and Astro Boy (not ragging on either mind you). If there's an FMA character on the cover, why not use that? It seems like one that would fit well with the themes. Maybe we're not giving this guy enough otaku cred, but I agree with you so far Gia, I'm not thoroughly excited about this. On a tangent, there's a cool looking, seemingly interesting book called Mangaka America; title says it all. Have you read it?
FoxxFireArt moderator on Jan. 20, 2010 at 1:21 p.m.
I think the metaphysical and philosophy is better left to the product of metaphor. Unless, of course, the topic is of interests to you in the first place. Most of the time, if you try talking about philosophy in certain mediums you will see people's eyes glaze over.
 
I actually really loved the aspects of Ghost in the Shell. How it questions what we define as alive. Though it was an underlining theme. More often the Ghost in the Shell: SAC seemed to me to be closer to a Tom Clancy novel. 
 
I think in this case it kind of is fair to judge a book by it's cover. There are thousands of very talented anime style artists out there. They could of commissioned one to make a cover.
 
@sora_thekey:
Philosophy can be really interesting if you can get into it with someone.
FLStyleon Jan. 20, 2010 at 3:11 p.m.
I have Terminator and Philosophy and Batman and Philosophy. Good stuff. I want The Matrix and Philosophy next.
 
If I had to get a anime version it would be Ghost in the Shell and Philosophy which I'll be getting in the near future.
giaon Jan. 20, 2010 at 3:57 p.m.
@Slim: There already IS a "manga guide to philosophy" (i.e. teaching classic philosophical concepts and history via manga illustrations). I gather these are more an analysis of philosophy as it's presented IN manga and anime. 
 
Which is a little silly since those philosophies vary so widely, but I suppose there could be some interesting conclusions about how it represents (or doesn't represent) mainstream Japanese philosophy as a whole.
CalAggieon Jan. 20, 2010 at 5:33 p.m.
I saw these listings a few months ago and I'm interested in seeing what subjects are covered in each.
 
I've been kind of skeptical about Open Court's "Popular Culture and Philosophy" brand line as a philosophy alumnus but I've never really read any of them so I can't offer a good opinion. My dad gave me the Harry Potter one a few months ago and I haven't started reading it, partly because I'm not a huge fan of the series. (I may get to it eventually.) A quick glance at the TOC shows the collection of essays touch on metaphysics, evil, discrimination, authenticity of reality, feminism, ambition as a virtue, moral obligation, and a few other things. 
 
For the anime and manga versions, there will probably be some essays about Eastern philosophy but there could also be discussions of gender identity (e.g. Ranma, Kashimashi), many subtopics within ethics, and mind-body relationships (as in androids/robots).
 
I'd imagine the audience for this would the same as other armchair philosophy books like The Pig That Wants to Be Eaten and Plato and a Platypus Walk into a Bar, both of which I enjoyed and think could be useful entry points to philosophy for newcomers.
asian_prideon Jan. 20, 2010 at 5:49 p.m.
I have Star Trek and Final Fantasy and Philosophy. Seems interesting, but that is a bad cover for the book.
constanzadellarosaon Jan. 20, 2010 at 6:47 p.m.
If I was biased by that cover I wouldn't buy that book.  I read the one about the Simpsons not long ago, and it was quite interesting. Hope these other two volumes are on the same path.
John_Martoneon Jan. 21, 2010 at 10:56 a.m.
Oh, ouch. Yeah. The idea sounds fun, though I assume (and probably incorrectly) it'll be more superficial than substance under the hood.
 
Those covers are terrible, terrible for conveying that the object inside is serious. I mean, it might have been better served creating a more standard, book cover, rather than a "Hey look, this is like a manga" cover.

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