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Life After Handley: Will Manga and Anime in the US Change?

Manga publishers, anime localizers, and retailers get their chance to comment on life after Chris Handley's sentencing.

Since the sentencing of Iowa native Christopher Handley, who pleaded guilty to charges of obscenity for his purchase of seven lolicon manga from Japan in February, fans have been questioning: Was it right? Was it fair? Could it happen to us? Will it change what I have access to in my daily life?

It was this last question-- how is the Handley case affecting companies' decisions, and by extension, the fans --that got me curious, especially in the wake of Bundgate, which many fans speculated was a sign of fallout from Handley's sentencing. So I got out there and got in touch with as many manga and anime localizers as I could. I also contacted retailers and a few others. I asked them all the same question: has or will Handley's sentencing had an impact on any facet of your business decisions?

I was originally going to post short quotes from each response, but frankly, they were all quite interesting to read at length and hard to pull bits out of context, so in the end I've included the full quotes, unedited by me.

Manga Publisher - Ed Chavez, Vertical Inc.

Vertical Inc. is not particularly known for publishing prurient manga, but some of its past and upcoming titles have some very dark elements, particularly the scheduled release of Osamu Tezuka's Ayako. Ed is also a well-respected manga expert thanks to his stints editing in Japan and at MangaCast.

"Honestly, the ruling hasn't changed what Vertical plans to publish or what we have released in the past. While we have some scenes that are clearly not in the realm of lolicon, there is no doubt that many of our fiction titles and a few of our Tezuka titles have scenes that are intended to challenge older teens and adult due to depictions of violence and sexuality. Strictly sticking to manga, themes such as bestiality, incest, and rape are just a few topics covered in our Tezuka titles. We just released a new version of MW that covers almost every thing I listed and we never even thought about altering a scene. I think the Godfather of Manga would not allow such a crime to be committed.

 Peepo Choo
 Peepo Choo
There will be challenging scenes in the manga we plan to release in 2010 as well. While all of the characters that engage in sexual activities in Peepo Choo are adults, the teens in the comic are clearly fictional teens. Like teens in reality they might push the boundaries of style and fashion in certain ways. In other ways Mr. Smith goes beyond the realms of human genetics to have his characters seem larger than life in all sorts of ways. Such is the power of the fictional world of art. Knowing that coming into the license we, Vertical, never have had intentions to alter any of the content in the title. As is the case in the editorial process where mangaka change pages between magazine and tankoubon printings if Felipe Smith makes a change to Peepo Choo, it will come from him and we will not initiate the conversation. So in the case of the cover for volume 1, Vertical actually wanted to use the original image but Mr. Smith suggested against it. Instead we are looking to publish the original cover in the book as a spread for readers to enjoy.

Neither Chi's Sweet Home, Twin Spica, nor 7 Billion Needles have sexually provocative scenes. But even before the Handley case we did wonder about shower/bath scenes in regard to age ratings. Would a bath scene raise a rating from twelve and up to fourteen and up? These are issues publishers deal with all the time.

 Ayako
 Ayako
Our Fall release of Ayako will be a challenge as it has a few elements that might raise flags for people who are extremely critical. As an individual who respects art for what it is it is hard for me to be offended by much in manga, but I am sure some people new to the medium might not expect scenes often found in other forms of media (prose, film, portrait painting...) to be rendered in a comic book. I think Tezuka never questioned the power of comics, so in giving respect to his readers and the themes he was conveying he never was gratuitous or pornographic with his imagery. Tezuka always maintains artistic integrity with this comics. So seeing Ayako visually blossom from a young child to a young adult, through the master's panels and character art, does not appear indecent even though it is clear how old Ayako is in each of those scenes. Tezuka compares the scene to a metamorphosis, where Ayako is visually but metaphorically shedding her skin as she grows out of it with age. Not ironically the scenes free of nudity or sexuality tend to be much more violent and disturbing. However, for some reason Americans rarely protest gratuitous violence in media.

We are currently working on acquiring new titles for Spring 2010 and even then the Handley case is not influencing our decisions. At Vertical, we aim to challenge readers perceptions of manga visually while providing outstanding literary value and cultural insight. So if a title has impacted Japanese culture within the last few decades expect Vertical to have that title on its radar no matter what the genre is."

Retailer - Peter Payne, JList

There are quite a few sites on the 'net that sell adult materials from Japan, but few are as ubiquitous as JList and its safe-for-work counterpart JBox. JList sells eroge and adult manga magazines-- along with tons of not-adult-at-all snacks and toys and clothes and whatnot --and Payne had a few things to say on the matter.

"It's a very unfortunate thing to have happened. The situation in Iowa, combined with the new limitations announced here in Japan, raise huge red flags about our ability to express basic ideas freely. With laws against, say, possession of certain illegal substances, it's easy to tell whether the law is being broken -- you just check for the substance and you have your answer. Every other law works this way. But with something like fictional illustrations or characters that don't exist, the opinion of ten different people is likely to be all over the map, and I couldn't think of a single anime character that would necessarily look over the age of 18 to 100% of people who looked at it, perhaps a remnant of the "cartoons is for kids" thinking from way back. And Tokyo banning showing of underwear? Are they aware they just banned Doraemon, which makes regular use of panty gags?

Anyway, while we don't agree with the developments, we'll obviously be making changes in the manga and other products we offer to our customers. Happily J-List (and our PG site, JBOX.com) has always sought to present a wide range of products from Japan without focusing on any one area, effectively mirroring the entire awesomeness of Japan in its entirety. This won't change at all."


Manga Publisher - Simon Jones, Icarus Publishing

Icarus Publishing is a publisher that specializes in hentai manga, perhaps best known for their Comic AG hentai anthology as well as various hentai manga; I think my personal favorite is The Spirit of Capitalism. As a publisher of adult works, you might imagine that a company like Icarus would have a few things to say on the Handley matter. Fortunately for us, Simon agreed to share! You should keep an eye on his blog for more insight, and occasionally smut.

 Icarus' Comic AG
 Icarus' Comic AG

"What readers should understand, at least in regard to pornographic publications such as ours, is that we've always been acutely aware of both the potential legal and ethical ramifications of what we choose for publication, and acted in accordance with them.  By ethical, I am not referring to abiding a certain set of morality or religious beliefs, but rather our obligations to retailers and readers; not subjecting retailers to an unreasonable level of risk, or harming the greater manga fandom in general.  This is reflected in both what we license, and also how we conduct business.  (We're rather low-key, to put it politely.)

In fact, I would say this is true for all North American licensees who work with adult material.  We all knew something like this could happen one day.

The Handley case may change the business for us (some retailers may no longer want to carry adult manga, for example), but it has not changed, nor will it change the way we approach licensing.  It's a historic moment, for sure, but the real problem is "obscenity," and that risk has always been present.  We've always tried to manage that as well as we could.  We try to push the envelop, but we've made edits when we felt they were necessary, and rejected licenses when we felt they would harm the fandom.  Ero manga are often short story collections, and sometimes one out of twelve stories isn't appropriate for the Western market.  That's when we may decide to make a cut, with the Japanese publisher/creator's blessing."

 

Convention - Sakura-Con

During my search, I was sent an anonymous tip that resulted in me being sent a copy of a document from Seattle-based anime convention Sakura-Con, which offered a reminder to exhibitors not to try and sell any materials that were in violation of the law. 

Dear Sakura-Con 2010 Exhibitors,

A previously unknown concern has been raised regarding certain comics as a result of a recent court case and law passed in 2008.  Because we know a small number of our venders sell adult manga and the case involves certain manga, we want to remind vendors that  Sakura- Con/ANCEA will not tolerate unlawful materials for sale in our exhibits hall.  Exhibitors found in violation of local, state or federal law will be reported to law enforcement, asked to leave the event and face banning from participation in the future.

Please refer to the information below for more information:

http://www.opencongress.org/

http://www.law.cornell.edu/

TITLE 18   >   PART I   >   CHAPTER 71   > § 1466A

§ 1466A. Obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children

(c)  Nonrequired Element of Offense.— It is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exist.


(f) Definitions.— For purposes of this section—

(1) the term “visual depiction” includes undeveloped film and videotape, and data stored on a computer disk or by electronic means which is capable of conversion into a visual image, and also includes any photograph, film, video, picture, digital image or picture, computer image or picture,  orcomputer generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means;     

Anime conventions are usually run by volunteers who may not have the resources necessary to handle a lot of lawyering. I can't help but feel obligated to point out that Artist Alley at Sakura-Con and conventions around the country are a lot lighter on their legal concerns-- but then again, copyright violations are rarely handled with arrests and potential sex offender registration, so who can blame them for being cautious?
 
 Note that Sakura-Con has not confirmed the authenticity of this letter, though I two (anonymous) sources independently confirmed their receipt of it from the convention.

Publisher - Michelle Mauk, Digital Manga Publishing

One field of manga that may be hit harder than others is yaoi. The material, aimed at women, often gets more of a pass in bookstores than hentai, but quite a few BL manga-- including some published in the US today --feature teenage boys, and coersion or harassment is a common theme. DMP is one of the largest publishers of BL, in both its lighter June line and the more hardcore 801 Media line. Here's what Michelle had to say on life post-Handley.

 DMP
 DMP

"In terms of how this affects licensing of BL, etc., I think as a company, DMP has always been extremely mindful of what it licenses from day 1. Since we began doing BL, we have sat and gone through every single title-we mark and question everything possibly objectionable to buyers and to readers and discuss as a group how and if a title should be licensed, and to what age group it would appeal to. Obviously BL is a niche product, and in the beginning, retailers were pretty skeptical about it-but our buyers and distributors understand the product they have in their hands a lot more nowadays, and they've always been conscientious about where and to whom it's going to. The most important thing is to be clear about what it is we're selling, which we always have been-complete with the bars that state clearly on June that they're "yaoi manga"-and the creation of the June' imprint itself. The BL audience in my opinion has been a very mature, well-educated, literate bunch-that supports the artist and the medium with a passion that surprises a lot of us in the office everyday. Obviously, when you go to the June website-the very first thing on the site is a definition of what "yaoi" is. 
 

 Little Butterfly, a light BL title
 Little Butterfly, a light BL title
I think the fact that the BL crowd tends to be older, has helped in the growth of BL here in the US. When we found that hard-core fans wanted titles that would typically not be licensed due to explicitness, we created a label and a distribution channel for it.  As times have changed, and other publishers started doing BL and licensing more explicit material in mainstream manga, what is acceptable continues to change for mature readers, and I think that shows an evolution of the manga reader in terms of what they want to see and read. Obviously, in terms of licensing, there will be some things that we as a company won't license (like shota)-and lolicon-type manga has never really been our thing even on our mainstream line. Fan-service, yes, but lolicon/shota no-and I think that comes mostly as a personal company preference over anything derived from the recent events from the Handley case. 
 
However, I will say this in regards to the Handley situation-the idea that what you read may translate to your behavior, is really a very sad outcome to the case. I was really saddened by the outcome, as manga and comics are fiction and imaginary, and not indicative of potential real-world behavior. It's like all those cases with people saying violence in video-games causes violence in individuals, or heavy-metal music creates violent urges. I'd hate for jury's and people to be the thought police about what's appropriate-and I feel this comes right down to it. I'm sure people can draw correlations to all sorts of things if they wanted to, but it's disheartening. There are different standards for comics and graphic novels in the US vs. Japan, and I'm sure how manga is perceived in the US vs. how it's perceived in Japan are very different, and probably will remain so for some time. It was a bit weird to see yaoi pointed out in the statement by the attorney in terms of it's legality in the US-it absolutely is-it's just in terms of acceptability by people who don't understand or know what it is. Everything is contextual in comics and graphic novels-but that's the medium we have chosen to work in. As a company-we're just going to do our best to put titles out that we believe have artistic merit, are appropriate for the ages of the audience reading them, and do our best to educate retailers and distributors about our products. I certainly hope that the Handley case doesn't deter people from reading BL mangaka like Fumi Yoshinaga, Yugi Yamada, and the upcoming Kazuma Kodaka title we have-artists who create sympathetic, entertaining characters and stories."
 

 Image (c) Daikinbakuju
 Image (c) Daikinbakuju

No Comment

In the interest of disclosure, I wanted to include a list of everyone who I contacted who either chose not to comment, or who did not get back to me in time for this article. 

These companies are: Bandai Entertainment, Nozomi Entertainment, Last Gasp, Seven Seas, Yen Press, Yaoi Press, Yaoi Generation, Fantagraphics, VIZ Media, Del Rey Manga, TOKYOPOP, FUNimation, CMX, Media Blasters, Crunchyroll.

Note that some of them indicated that they would like to comment for the piece but didn't get back to me in time, so hopefully we can get some or all of them represented in follow-up posts.

That said, for the companies that chose not to comment, I don't want you to think that it means something's wrong with them. This is a very hard question for anyone to want to speak on the record about; a company will either have to say "no, we aren't going to change what we're doing," and risk drawing attention if they're releasing any questionable materials, or they have to say "yes, we're cutting back on these types of titles," and risk drawing attention from unhappy fans.

"No comment" is, if not particularly helpful or informative, a safe bet.

Analysis

 Dance in the Vampire Bund
 Dance in the Vampire Bund
My opinion on this matter isn't quite an insider's, and isn't quite an outsider's: I am privy to information that I am not at liberty to pass on, but not so much that I can state quantitatively how much change the industry is seeing or not seeing in response to Handley's sentencing.

It seems clear to me that there is some amount of shift taking place, especially when you factor in the wording of FUNimation's statement offering that they might not edit Bund: that they wanted to "ensure compliance with current U.S. law." I'd guess that there are several reasons for this shift-- the obvious one, of course is that companies are worried about getting in trouble with the law themselves. Slightly less obvious is that people who are worried about getting in trouble for buying XYZ title are less likely to actually buy it, whether it's legally questionable or not.

In addition to that, though, companies aren't just in the anime game for the short game of selling to you and to me-- they want to keep selling anime to people for a long time. What they release now will impact how people-- from kids to parents to bookstore buyers --see anime and manga for the next few years, or for decades, depending on the title in question. As mentioned by both Simon Jones and Peter Payne, what stores carry may change, and that will have an impact on what gets licensed.

The question from here out, then, is how MUCH of a shift are we seeing-- which is a question that won't really be answered until we see the results from licensing cycles that took place after said sentencing. Given the anger with which fans met FUNimation's news that Dance in the Vampire Bund would be edited, we'll hopefully see few titles wind up being edited. On the other hand, we may see some titles not get picked up at all, if companies don't feel comfortable releasing them unedited and fans don't want to buy them edited.

Your Turn!

Well, a big bunch of us have said our pieces. Now it's time for you to respond: how would you feel, for example, about seeing fewer moe fanservice titles (Sora no Otoshimono, Omamori Himari) get released in the US? What about manga with potentially questionable content, like some yaoi titles? Would you rather see something you liked get a wide release with edits, or not see it come out in the United States at all? Is there an amount of editing that's okay (e.g. putting bikini tops on the bathing ladies of Tenchi Muyo for TV)? How much?

...And anything else you're feeling on the matter. Let's hear it all and talk about it!
MrBooboon March 17, 2010 at 8:25 p.m.
I am not sure what I would prefer to be honest. I want access to everything in it's original form. But if the choice is no access or edited copy I guess I would like the edit. At that point it becomes a don't cut off your nose to spite your face situation.
 
As to the overall premise I know I am worried at times about the products I buy. I used to own a few copies of stuff from Icuras but tossed em to be safe. I currently own titles like Sundome which could be seen as illegal. I hate the idea that we have all these items being publicly sold and yet I as the buy must fear.
 
With drugs while they arrest the user their goal is always the dealer but here it seems the goal is the user. It is also disappointing not to have a Rightstuf comment up there as for me they are the #1 distributor of what could be illegal material to me. I want them to say they stand behind the good they sell or that they are pulling stuff. That way I could at least have a clue where we stand.
omoon March 17, 2010 at 8:29 p.m.
Great write-up. Too bad it doesn't really speak volumes of what are the real changes.
 
Maybe we don't really know what is going to change.
giaon March 17, 2010 at 8:36 p.m.
@omo: We don't-- it's really still a bit too early to say what the effect will be. We'll have a better sense of the changes once we start to get the licensing announcements from contracts being written up right now, I think. But I wanted to get a sense of what kinds of changes might be in the works-- I think it's interesting information. And of course, how readers respond on a larger scale can have an impact on what localizers choose to do, as well.
 
I've been trying to get in touch with some of my contacts in Japan, but as you can imagine, they're not very inclined to open up for the most part :)
darkcyderon March 17, 2010 at 8:50 p.m.
I'm sure that if they put enough edits into the source material it'll all end up fine.
 
I'd say if they want to get something to the general public and not JUST the fans localizing it could work. Cutting out things that could be "illegal" here, possibly even changing names that American audiences might have problems with.
crusader8463on March 17, 2010 at 8:51 p.m.
@gia:  Honestly i have just gotten to the point where I dont care about it any more. These laws are being made by people who want to control what every one sees/hears and make everyone think and act the way they do. Sadly no matter how much bitching about how this is wrong and evil that we do, it will never accomplish or change anything. At the end of the day these laws are going to pass or they're not, companies will ether comply with the laws or just not publish that material anymore and there is nothing any of us can do about it but buy the censored material or don't.
NovidAnonon March 17, 2010 at 9:08 p.m.
Im playing God Of War. 
  
What does it have to do with this whole situation? 
 
The Main Charator is looking for vengeance. He has never been accepted. He has killed for his people/nation but has been betrayed again and again. 
 
You have to look at the population. Who has the power? Who has control? Its isnt Obama, it aint you. It's isnt even the people who we elect.  
 
Its the Christians, the same ones who showed anime in the late 70's are now the ones who want to take it down for the count - 
 
If you look at the future population, the majority of this countries children are being born in evanglical households. That shouldn't be a bad thing right? That there is a creator correct and He loves his children correct? 
 
The problem is the media. The media from day one has killed any sort of semblance of reality. The media that we so desperately tried to use to promote the franchises - were not compatible with what the media wanted to make money with. They have a structure they want to keep. Its mostly a maya strand - an illusion of gaia if you will.  
 
So anime has been used, for good and for ill to break the strand. But it got too close to the flame - and now bit by bit and piece by piece the media that we thought would accept us - animation fans, and the otaku - want to get rid of us, break us down - rip us apart. 
 
But you know what i learned from God of War. 
 
That despite all the iies, all the pleads, and the tricks - and all the pain, and all the suffering - and through the apocalypse - the illusion that this media has created has to be broken, or otherwise we will be caught back in the same cycle that the rest of the world continues to fall in. 
 
We are in somewhat - the same "demon/witch" hunt that the country is known for. They took Tom Jefferson, off the text books in Texas - how much more will they go after us these states who now want to become the "free states" from this dying nation. 
 
All i hear is pandora's song... 
 
and all there will be is blood of my country men. 
 
all because nobody knows whats real anymore.
MoonStormon March 17, 2010 at 9:10 p.m.
Well the effects seem to be little for now, but we won't really know tell the next person goes to court for the same charges. For now company's have nothing much to fear because an individual was the one being charged not a company. If however several cases show up lawyers may change their targets to the company. 
 
I wish more company responded.
CalAggieon March 17, 2010 at 9:15 p.m.
Ideally, I would get unedited versions of anime & manga because both are visual media and the art conveys meaning along with narrative elements. I don't mind changes to character names and I suppose some non-excessive steam (as seen in a number of first-run broadcast anime) but the story has to remain unaltered because that is what keeps me interested in an ongoing series. I am more sensitive about edits to manga than to anime because manga feels more like prose literature and therefore more "sacred" than video, derived from the tangibility of the works. 
 
Many of the moe fanservice series are unlikely to get a proper release in the US anyway outside of Crunchyroll because of lower audience numbers than comfortable to make DVDs profitable (the two Gia mentioned had been/are on CR) so I don't care that much if they aren't released on plastic discs. If a publisher believes in a series - like FUNimation does with Strike Wtiches - then I support them in their decision to release it in America. I may not end up liking that particular work but I'm happy that there was an opportunity for it to reach a broader audience.
Lunarmothon March 17, 2010 at 9:34 p.m.
Man what a read. I don't know how this will effect thing in the short term or long. But this will be something we'll need to watch in the future.
darkcyderon March 17, 2010 at 9:56 p.m.
@NovidAnon:  Jefferson is not removed from Texas textbooks, you are on crack.
Oishi_47on March 17, 2010 at 10:13 p.m.
Considering that the companies can't really be charged with the same thing Handley was charged with, I think that there would have to be an actual corporate precedent before it really affects companies. I don't really see a class action loli porn lawsuit making it onto the books anytime soon, though. As far as the legality of the things we posses, the fact is that Handley was only caught because he imported it. Customs flagged his books, but the obviously can't maintain all of the mail flowing inside of the U.S. for various reasons. In Handley's case, he only faced such severe charges for "receipt" of the goods. It would be very difficult to charge someone with "receipt" if they are already in possession of the product. Let's not forget that Handley plead guilty, he was never charged, so his case yields no precedent. 
crusader8463on March 18, 2010 at 12:46 a.m.
@oishi_47: Yes, but the problem is that now there is a precedent for someone going to jail for buying a product that these companies make and sell. People are worried that these companies will just start pulling anything that might even closely be labeled in the same camp as that material, preventatively, out of fear of being the first company who gets dragged into a court about it. Even if they inevitably win the case, it would no doubt be after years of legal fighting that would cost millions and potential bankrupt a company-- especially so if it's one of the smaller ones. That's why people are so worried.
NovidAnonon March 18, 2010 at 5:25 a.m.
@darkcyder:  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1253 
 
I consider it a removal.
sunfloweron March 18, 2010 at 6:50 a.m.
@oishi_47:  Companies can't be charged with what Handley was charged, but they can certain be charged with what Max Hardcore was charged, and frankly that seems to be much worse.
 
Thanks for asking the companies about this, Gia.  Hopefully more of them will give you some feedback.
Oishi_47on March 18, 2010 at 7:30 a.m.
@crusader8463 said:
" @oishi_47: Yes, but the problem is that now there is a precedent for someone going to jail for buying a product that these companies make and sell. People are worried that these companies will just start pulling anything that might even closely be labeled in the same camp as that material, preventatively, out of fear of being the first company who gets dragged into a court about it. Even if they inevitably win the case, it would no doubt be after years of legal fighting that would cost millions and potential bankrupt a company-- especially so if it's one of the smaller ones. That's why people are so worried. "
@sunflower said:
" @oishi_47:  Companies can't be charged with what Handley was charged, but they can certain be charged with what Max Hardcore was charged, and frankly that seems to be much worse.  Thanks for asking the companies about this, Gia.  Hopefully more of them will give you some feedback. "
Let's not forget that there really aren't very many American companies that distribute what would be considered loli porn. Though the ban in Tokyo will include characters who just appear to bu under age and presented in a lustful way, the only comparable laws on the books in the U.S. can be circumvented with fictitious characters by saying they're over 18. The Max Hardcore case is one I think will get overturned in the not too distant future. I know it is being appealed yet, so a contested precedent like it will probably not influence any legal decisions in the near future.
Krison March 18, 2010 at 8:53 a.m.
@darkcyder said:
" @NovidAnon:  Jefferson is not removed from Texas textbooks, you are on crack. "
Not entirely, no (I'm sure his name is in there somewhere).  What they're doing is removing him as a creator of separation of church and state, and replacing him with John Calvin and Calvinism.  
 
That doesn't really have anything to do with this, though.
The companies you DID get answers from are probably the ones who would need to make the most changes anyway, due to what they publish.  I'm happy to see that they have no current plans to change what they're donig.
Of course, more mainstream companies are obviously more in the spotlight, and even they publish some slightly questionable stuff, even when it's not explicit.  So it would be good to hear from them in the future.  I think there's an awful lot of panicking going on right now, with some of it justified, but most of it probably not.  It IS an issue, sure.  But I don't know if it's as bad as people are trying to make it.  The problem is that all it takes is one person with a problem to make a fuss and get everyone in trouble.  So maybe it IS as bad as people are saying it is.  What we really need is a clearer definition of the law, and none of this "what the average person thinks is obscene."  That or define the "average person" as a peer (ie: someone who has a vested interest in the same type of material, meaning, if it's manga, then someone who reads manga), and not some right-wing conservative soccer mom or something who doesn't even know what manga is.
peanutmanson March 18, 2010 at 12:25 p.m.
OF COURSE VIZ DIDN'T COMMENT! THEY EDIT DETECTIVE CONAN (NOT CASE CLOSEDBWABWA)! THEY'RE TOO BUSY SCREWING IT OVER TO REPLY BWABWABWA!
Sigueon March 18, 2010 at 12:29 p.m.
@peanutmans: mans, it isn't nice to make fun of people like that. He really likes Detective Conan.
NovidAnonon March 18, 2010 at 12:46 p.m.
@Kris: dude let me make myself clear. I dont have a bone at this fight with the only exception that the dude went to jail over a comic book that he wasnt going to sell to a minor, that he wasnt going to show to a minor. He just crossed state lines with the same books. Thats what he was arrested for. Quite honestly, there is a lot of changes that need to happen in the industry. But being cut by the balls isnt one of them. 
 
Quite honestly a LOT offends me about the industry - NONE of it deals with its content (The US TV industry when it comes to its tween stars have DONE 20 times worse i.e. everybody who saw Vanessa's Hudgens pic should be in jail - if Handely could go to jail for what i consider much lesser offense one of shame and at least a fine equal to the amount of the books and 1,000 hours community service and god only knows Iowa needs it.) and everything with its promotion. Im at the point in my life where as long as no kid gets hurt, no kid gets killed, no kid sees what is not allowed to see - i dont care what these companies do - they just cant sell shit - and until the figure it out - they aint getting nobodys money so this argument is moot.
reinon March 18, 2010 at 2:34 p.m.
If they start to edit it, I'm going to simply stop buying manga and anime and go to the unedited fansubs/scanlations.

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They heard the fans!

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I don't know if this show ever actually "matured."

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What're we gonna do when these freaks get organized?

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The bit players steal the show in this week's chapter.

BLEACH Ch. 608 Review

Ichibe always bets on black.

Anime Caption Contest -- 12/15/14

Tis the season to be jolly! Which of these Santas are good?

Gohan Gets A New Look in the Next DRAGON BALL Z Movie

Track suits are in next year!

PARASYTE - THE MAXIM #11 -- Watch & Learn

What're we gonna do when these freaks get organized?

Toei Redraws SAILOR MOON CRYSTAL?

They heard the fans!

THE TALE OF PRINCESS KAGUYA -- Movie Review

Truly one of Studio Ghibli's best films...

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A wolf in... wolf's clothing?

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Wonder no more! There's a video!

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