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Destinyheroknighton Sept. 6, 2013 at 9:14 a.m.

No one talk about Hunter X Hunter because of it long hiatus of the Manga, it the same age as One Piece. If Hunter X Hunter didn't have so many hiatus, it would be more popular then One Piece

I do like the Manga (haven't watch the Anime yet), but the hiatus drive me crazy (it been a year and no new chapter)

I do wonder why it not in the HST, it is one of the highest selling manga in Jump (guess it the hiatus)

Marshal Victoryon Sept. 6, 2013 at 9:47 a.m.

Well huh.Seems to recall some one saying this Hunter x Hunter would wash the bad taste of Toriko away...Actualy sevrial of us have pointed out it should be looked at.

Also Tom with that Gorlliza shirt are you saying in a subtle way that Hunter x Hunter just

rocks the house?Or are you saying you like its Style oh?

sickVisionz moderator on Sept. 6, 2013 at 10:41 a.m.
I don't know why. All I can think is that the manga isn't as popular as other stuff, meaning the anime had no shot of being as popular as other stuff combined with it being a remake and it losing a good amount of appeal because of that.
rubberluffyon Sept. 6, 2013 at 11:05 a.m.

@sickVisionz said:

I don't know why. All I can think is that the manga isn't as popular as other stuff, meaning the anime had no shot of being as popular as other stuff combined with it being a remake and it losing a good amount of appeal because of that.

HxH was 12th highest selling series in 2011 and that was with only 2 new volumes being released that year and volume 30 was the 10th best selling manga volume last year.

sickVisionz moderator on Sept. 6, 2013 at 12:16 p.m.

@rubberluffy said:

@sickVisionz said:

I don't know why. All I can think is that the manga isn't as popular as other stuff, meaning the anime had no shot of being as popular as other stuff combined with it being a remake and it losing a good amount of appeal because of that.

HxH was 12th highest selling series in 2011 and that was with only 2 new volumes being released that year and volume 30 was the 10th best selling manga volume last year.

12th best would definitely put it in "not as popular as other stuff" territory. Thanks for the confirmation.

Marshal Victoryon Sept. 6, 2013 at 12:43 p.m.

@sickVisionz: ya but to be fair if it was second it still would be in the "not as popular as other stuff" territory'" as well.

1: Look at it from a difrent perspective. its a remake.That would cut early on some watchers.

2: Early arch is not typical shonen.As per Toms fasination with a certian soda pop can.

3: Toriko may well be killing good taste cells in shonen fans? Thus turning off them to a odd deepr layered shonen.Sorta kiding but it does show where the popular tastes are going.

As with the whole popular goal mark, one should always rember that is never a harbinger of quality.

rubberluffyon Sept. 6, 2013 at 2:57 p.m.

@sickVisionz said:

@rubberluffy said:

@sickVisionz said:

I don't know why. All I can think is that the manga isn't as popular as other stuff, meaning the anime had no shot of being as popular as other stuff combined with it being a remake and it losing a good amount of appeal because of that.

HxH was 12th highest selling series in 2011 and that was with only 2 new volumes being released that year and volume 30 was the 10th best selling manga volume last year.

12th best would definitely put it in "not as popular as other stuff" territory. Thanks for the confirmation.

Considering all the sales numbers weren't that far spread outside of the top 2 (One Piece with 37mil and Naruto with 6.8mil, down to HxH with almost 3mil), I'd say it coming in 12th in a list of 50 (with 50th being 960k), is pretty good, especially for a series that is constantly on hiatus and only had 2 new volumes during that sales period. The previous volume was released 1 1/2 years earlier, so it managed those numbers without a steady stream of releases like everything else, while also being an older series. And as of Feb 2012 it was the 8th best selling Weekly Jump series. So sales wise it is doing just fine.

sickVisionz moderator on Sept. 6, 2013 at 4:32 p.m.

@rubberluffy: @Marshal Victory: I'm not saying Hunter X Hunter is completely unpopular, nobody reads, and it's a complete commercial failure by every metric. When Tom and Sam are saying it under appreciated, I'm assuming they're comparing it to huge stuff like One Piece, Naruto, Fairy Tail, Toriko, etc. ie the shows people are always talking about. Compared to those, it isn't as popular. That was my point.

rubberluffyon Sept. 6, 2013 at 4:48 p.m.

@sickVisionz said:

@rubberluffy: @Marshal Victory: I'm not saying Hunter X Hunter is completely unpopular, nobody reads, and it's a complete commercial failure by every metric. When Tom and Sam are saying it under appreciated, I'm assuming they're comparing it to huge stuff like One Piece, Naruto, Fairy Tail, Toriko, etc. ie the shows people are always talking about. Compared to those, it isn't as popular. That was my point.

I just like posting numbers. Plus comparing anything to One Piece is pretty unfair in general, just look at those numbers I posted.

Despite average ratings, and I saw some sales for the Greed Island boxset numbering in the hundreds (although it's a sunday morning timeslot so I don't think sales matter like with a late night show, plus the targeted demo probably doesn't have the money), I want to know what black magic Madhouse is using on this show. I'm literally astounded that the series has managed to stay above average on the production front for the majority of its as-of-tomorrow 95 episodes, with a good number of episodes looking fantastic. To compare to another shonen adaptation that airs on the the same day, Titan hasn't managed to look even remotely as consistent and it is only going to be 25 episodes

Marshal Victoryon Sept. 6, 2013 at 6:44 p.m.

@rubberluffy: I think madhouse has some of their best people on it so need less of them.Some of their other offers have been um lacking least for me.

@sickVisionz: Popular as in rabid fans to . It doesnt seem to genrate those type of fans as say "One Piece, Naruto, Fairy Tail, Toriko" .It kinda has a limited word of mouth campign at best .Im just looking at reasons why its not as popular as the others.

I like the show want to start again when the watch an learn caches up to where i left off.But i said long ago it had the potetnial to be one of the top 3 shonens .To me its right up there but by popular veiwers its not.

Also could it be the whole concept of hunting seem foreign to jappan?Least population wise?Tom an Sam touched n the almsot euro apeal of Gon Freecs .Maybe thats a turn off in japan?Also kinda like to note Cowboy Bebop was not popular in japan either.

Reguardless i stand by the the stamtent popularity does not harbinger quality .Could point out presidentcial elections,Mcdonalds,or even Twilight as examples.But that would just be salting popular wounds.

Destinyheroknighton Sept. 7, 2013 at 5:58 p.m.

@Marshal Victory:

All fandom have rabid fans

Japan love Hunter X Hunter, it is the sixth highest selling Manga title of Shonen Jump. It have video games, two anime and trading card, only popular stuff get that (if it was underrated in Japan, it will not have those things). Over here it isn't that popular

The reason why it isn't popular is because of the Manga long hiatus. The first Anime fail because it ran out of new material (the new Anime going to have the same fate). Second it wasn't on TV, Naruto and Bleach got popular because it was on TV (One Piece wasn't popular until FUNimation dub).

Marshal Victoryon Sept. 8, 2013 at 2:33 a.m.

@Destinyheroknight: 1st keep in mind i have said many times i think Hunter x hunter could be in the top 3 shonen.Any where actualy.But 6th is not the same as where it should be.Just asking questions on why it isnt.

2nd im aware it cracks the top 10 ever so often in tv views in japan as well.Any thing that popular will get video games etc etc. But the point remains its not where it should be.There or here.

3rd i dont buy the manga was late argument. Bleach ran dry sevrial times an just did filler.Manga popularity does not equal anime poularity .Sure you can start with a bigger fan base or end up wiht more negative word of mouth to.The ovas an movies may not have been on tv but that may add to the confusion of the show as well hurting its popularity.Since Hunter X Hunter (2011) is often billed as a retelling i think that does not help draw in viewers.

True all fandom may have rabid fans .But i havent run across any about Hunter x Hunter.Fanboy base is not what you would see as in Naruto or even Bleach .

Destinyheroknighton Sept. 8, 2013 at 9:06 a.m.

@Marshal Victory:

Sixth place is good, Toriko not even up their. It so good Yoshihiro Togashi can take lot of hiatuses, if it was anyone else (beside Oda, Kishimoto or Fujimaki) it wouldn't happen (they would be cancel and replace)

It because of the Manga hiatus, it is holding it back. The Manga does effect the Anime popularity a lot in Japan, Bleach popularity went down when the Manga wasn't good. Look at One Piece, the Anime is bad (I'm a One Piece fan) it paste badly and it have bad animation, but it still rank high in tv views (it because of the Manga, people are still watching it). Manga popularity does equal Anime popularity, if it didn't One Piece wouldn't be rank as high

You will come cross them, it just the fan base is small

I answer your question, it because of the Manga hiatus

Marshal Victoryon Sept. 9, 2013 at 8:20 a.m.

@Destinyheroknight: It may well be there but not here tho. An for anime rankings tho tv views....

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-09-08/japan-animation-tv-ranking-august-26-september-1 Toriko is 7th an Hunter x Hunter doesnt make the top 10 :/

Destinyheroknighton Sept. 9, 2013 at 2:15 p.m.

@Marshal Victory:

That make me mad, HxH anime is way better (I surprise Naruto or Attack On Titan isn't on their) then Toriko (Glad Space Brothers on the list)

I blame the crossover Toriko have with Dragon Ball and One Piece (Shueisha is trying to make Toriko the next big thing)

Anyway, I don't really pay attention to the tv ranking (manly focus on the Manga)

Marshal Victoryon Sept. 9, 2013 at 4:53 p.m.

@Destinyheroknight: Now ya get exaclty what i been saying. an kinda what Tom & Sam are saying here to .HxH is a way better show than Toriko

an yet its not geting due props or even atention.i wathc the rankings just to see how difrent the populrity of shows are there an here.Also note Toriko

was in top 10 before the cross over.I just dont understand that.Maybe litle kids really like it?

Destinyheroknighton Sept. 9, 2013 at 5:43 p.m.

@Marshal Victory:

I knew that already, I just didn't know about the TV stuff

I think it about Shueisha giving more ads to Toriko, because it still running in Shonen Jump and HxH is still on hiatus

Well, it probably is Shueisha focusing on making Toriko into a hit (since Bleach manga is about to end and Naruto getting their). They have to a cash cow. (I really don't like how they work)

Maybe that why I really don't care for Toriko, because it feel like someone is trying to force me into liking it

Marshal Victoryon Sept. 9, 2013 at 5:54 p.m.

@Destinyheroknight: Toriko just does nothing for me. Sams rants about ti cover it fairly well i think.Id rather watch Joujuu Senjin!! Mushibugyou

or cach up on Fairy Tail than try a sit threw the 1st episode of Toriko again. All who like it thats great. It is just not for me.When the Watch an learn cachs up to where i left off on HxH ill start back on it again.Like to see Girls of the Wild's manga made into a anime .Would be a good switch up in shonen actualy.

Destinyheroknighton Sept. 9, 2013 at 6:06 p.m.

@Marshal Victory:

Well, to be fair Toriko anime is really butcher and fan of the Manga don't like it either (it is really sad how popular the Anime is)

.....Fairy Tail :(

Girls of the Wild would be good, But I want One-Punch Man (it one crazy manga and it funny to boot)

Marshal Victoryon Sept. 9, 2013 at 8:44 p.m.

@Destinyheroknight: Ohh "in a world over run with super heroes"... an im hooked! will look into this one. Thanks for the head nod tword that one .it looks like someting i may well enjoy alot.wish Girls of the Wild's would get a english print run an or anime.If your gona dream might as well dream big right?

Fairy Tail tho shonen is more soap opera / comedy . Medaka Box drerw in more to its story than Toriko. History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi did as well.So i do like silly fighting anime as much as the next guy .I just wish HxH got more attention then it gets now.

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