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Has an Anime Ever Made You ANGRY? -- BURNING QUESTIONS

Sometimes people get struck by bad moods, but has your otaku lifestyle ever made you inconsolable? Rage quit into the comments section!

In Burning Questions, Sam Weller pontificates on, ruminates upon or investigates into any and all anime and manga topics.

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One of the more uncomfortable sections of fandom - - whether it's with anime, video games, comics, or otherwise - - are those who go completely out-of-control mad. Often, it’s through a typically lengthy blog post, wherein the offended party proceeds to throw friend and foe alike under the bus. He (or she) has been wronged, and they’re out to let everyone know about it.

And while some enter the fray to diffuse the aggression, others bask in the sidelines and ask, "WHY?!?!" What could make you so upset to disturb the relative peace of the internet?

...and has it ever been anime?

Now, I’ve already asked if an anime can make you cry, but I need to know the other side of the spectrum. Anime oftentimes is designed to cater to a certain level of criteria. Shonen, shoujo, mecha, etc. And it takes care not to stray from these definitions so its audience remains comfortable. But anime can be very affecting, and while it’s easy to inspire tears or sympathy, it can be harder to inspire anger or discontent.

ANIME RAGE!
ANIME RAGE!

For me, anime rage can take two forms...

  1. You are genuinely upset at the outcome of a story, and carry that around with you into your daily life.
  2. You get into an argument with your friend about anime, and the two of you develop some kind of rift.

I have examples of both that have happened to me in my otaku life.

For the former, it was POKEMON. Yes, POKEMON.

Now while I can chalk up my rage to being young and immature; I was livid that Ash didn’t make the Indigo League on his first try. I had followed Ash, Misty and horn-dog Brock through multiple attacks of Team Rocket, heart felt moments with Pikachu, and even saying goodbye to Butterfee. Over 75 episodes had brought Ash and his audience to that hard-won point! He had that tournament in Kanto - - he just had to win!

But he didn’t, due to some B.S. Charizard pulled in the last round. And the fan boy rage ensued.

I specifically remember asking my mother how such a thing could happen. My mom who - - like Ash’s mother - - had no knowledge of Pokemon or tournament fights, calmly explained to me that sometimes, even in stories, things don’t always work out the way we like. Her patience taught me a lesson. Even if you get really upset, anime characters won’t always win a fight. While that might have shaken me to my very core at the time, it was something I had to get used to. I also had to remember that Pokemon aren’t real - - as much as I wanted them to be - - and it was after that point I stopped actively watching that show.

Fooled me once, POKEMON... you won’t fool me again.

Charizard... I HATE YOU!
Charizard... I HATE YOU!

Now, the latter instance is something I put a friend through, not myself. And it’s not about a specific anime; it's about what you do in high school when you really like this stuff.

Friend of the Vice Pit, Joe Locastro, had been a buddy of mine since the beginning of my anime viewings. We'd shared a lot of shows together and, generally, had always been of the same opinion when it came to what we liked and disliked. But we also liked to draw, and art... can be serious business.

While we never came to blows over it, Joe and I would often get into competitions over who could draw something better. As fans of anime, drawing skill became a point of pride and we needed it to impress our friends. It started with DBZ-inspired faces, then it evolved into robots and samurai and the dreaded “self-portraiture”.

(Leave it to your imaginations how many fedoras, zippers and large breasted cat girls were rendered).

This is... seriously what we were arguing about.
This is... seriously what we were arguing about.

While we both developed our own sense of style, I always hated how Joe refused to draw with a pencil. He was so smugly convinced that pen was just the way to go that I starting using a pencil almost out of spite. And he also had a better eye for little “anime style” details I missed, but I’d often make up for it in original styling and a dedication to drawing "the Marvel Way," as my books had instructed.

(And by “original styling” I mean using furries in a lot of my pictures).

Though I learned something about figure drawing, I learned more about accepting your friends... despite their reliance on dash lines and robot parts. And I do find that lesson has translated into a healthy attitude regarding online anime discourse.

So what anime related has ever made you TRULY upset, Vicers? Can you forgive and forget? Or does the fire still burn? Make sure to vent in the comments before you blow your top!

Sam Weller is a writer and actor who's scribed for shows like FIRST EDITION, GEEK THERAPY, and most recently BATGIRL: SPOILED. He also really likes anime. To know what is going to happen next, follow@cravesam

GokaiRedon March 21, 2013 at 5:46 p.m.

Usually ends get my blood boiling, like Berserk.

BurningLizardon March 21, 2013 at 7:20 p.m.

Well, not necessarily anime, but I have run into a LOT of manga that absolutely enraged me. Like the *bleep*fest Otaku no musume san.

Kino88on March 21, 2013 at 7:32 p.m.
Gatling Guy Walks By
Gatling Guy Walks By

black lagoon (which I am about to complete) has at least a few gut wrenching tragic moments that made me pretty mad, but it was for the right reasons, god I love that show....

sickVisionz moderator on March 22, 2013 at 6:13 a.m.

It's never made me angry, whether it be a series literally making me mad or from discussing anime with others. I've gotten into arguments with people about anime but I'd label them as lively or exciting because I generally find it fun talking about anime, especially with someone who enjoys the medium so much that they'd actually go back and forth with me too. I think some shows do dumb things or end in dumb ways, but they don't make me angry. I just think, "well, that was stupid," and that's pretty much as much of a rise as it gets out of me.

The emotions anime pulls out of me are usually excitement and glee over something cool happening, laughter over something funny, or me being bummed out and depressed for an afternoon because something sad happened in a series.

samweller999 staff on March 22, 2013 at 7:15 a.m.

@Kino88: Black Lagoon really is kind of amazing. I feel that show deserved more attention than it got on the initial release. And yeah, there are definitely some maddening moments, but more to do that we DIDN'T SEE ENOUGH.

SamJazon March 22, 2013 at 7:42 a.m.

Sometimes it's the exact reaction the writer wanted. Like in Kyou Kare Ore Wa, when a villain crosses THE line, and you know righteous vengeance When a WAAAGH! is in order. (It's a cross between a holy crusade and a pub crawl, with a bit of genocide thrown in for good measure. )

Sometimes, however, I've also rage quit on a manga. Like Wolf Guy. After twelve chapters of the guy running through the city to find the villain while the girl gets graphically gang raped for the villains amusement, I just dropped the sick show and never looked back. Happened a couple of other times as well. Did the same thing with the first FMA anime when everyone started turning into wood, not so much for moral values, but just because it was so stupid.

ComicMan24on March 22, 2013 at 10:41 a.m.

Guess I should check Black Lagoon at some point if it is that good, even though I have to admit that it doesn't really interest me that much.

Anyway, as for the thread, something recent that comes to mind is the the finale of the Evangelion anime. While it didn't make me mad per se, it did make wonder why they made it.

P.S. So agreed on the Charizard thing.

Supermutant2099on March 22, 2013 at 12:13 p.m.

All of End Of Evagenlion pissed me off. Really it was just dumb and just seemed like a way for creators to tell fans of show fu after they didn't like the ending to tv show.

L/R ending. Where it just comes out of left field and left wondering what the hell was that.

Full Metal Alchemist endings. Both just really made me mad. Brotherhoods was better.

Dragonball GT. WTF? Just made a lame argument that never holds up even in comics.

samweller999 staff on March 22, 2013 at 1:03 p.m.

@ComicMan24 said:

P.S. So agreed on the Charizard thing.

THANK YOU

ComicMan24on March 22, 2013 at 1:10 p.m.

@samweller999: Ash would have definitely won that fight if Charizard wasn't acting like a diva in that match. Plus not being able to use Pidgeotto in the fight didn't really help him either since it would have made a much better opponent for Butterfree than Squirtle.

Donwunon March 22, 2013 at 2:32 p.m.

Well to be honest the characters in School Days really made me upset....but i don't actually hate the anime itself.

Other than that i'd say the ending to Berserk and maybe good shows that end upbruptly without getting very far like Zipang

but in general i can't say anything really pissed me off AFTER watching it.....oh wait NARUTO and its near 100 episode filler episodes before coming back as Shippuden - yeah that really grinded my gears for a while (like most ppl)

Daniel_Newton moderator on March 24, 2013 at 7:46 p.m.

Wait, you mean you watched Pokémon up to that point and just stopped? You actually missed Ash and Charizard finally making up and getting along? Aww, dude, that's actually a real shame!

Actually, a recent Pokémon episode reintroduced Charizard (Ash decided to bring him back into his current roster of Pokémon for a while) and half of that episode was flashbacks from the original series, it was pretty great. It was also a little weird seeing scenes from the original series redrawn in the new style, but pretty cool at the same time.

Real friendship is hot flames in your face.
Real friendship is hot flames in your face.
zaldaron April 2, 2013 at 10:58 a.m.

I'm impressed pokemon actually decided to teach such a real life lesson like that. We do our children a disservice when we coddel them to much. To bad the show giving you reality made you stop watching it.

The most recent anime anger I had was in watching Madoka. I had heard what I was getting into but when things finally became completely clear and we found out what REALLY was going on....yeah my rage (and amazement they got the science right) was palpable.

samweller999 staff on April 10, 2013 at 2:59 a.m.

@zaldar: @Daniel_Newton:

No, I continued to watch Pokemon for a little while longer... I just needed a break poke-man.

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