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some people did call her modred just because he got a red costume and same face with saber, which is strange we never see modred face, we do know she is a girl and of saber class, we do know she has red scheme, what confused me is why they have the conclusion while modred is not a hero, never have a good intention or feeling and should not have been in holy grail wars, and she wears a helmet

@willyvereb said:

" Well and Mordred mentioned as a MAN. Most importqant thing...though he might be a she like Arthuria was in nasuverse. Another thing which bothers me that people always want to give larger bewbs for Saber. Why? In the VN she was a semi-loli(in body proportions 14 years old). It is one of the symbols of her purity as being always maiden, but instead in both the anime and in many other sources they tend to give her a "plastic surgery".  They hardly try to do something with Rin, Sakura,Rider and co. to make them more appealing, but for the legendary knight must have some "improvements"... "

wait until UBW come, i bet rin will get some "improvement"
 
sakura needs improvement?
 
 
and i am quite sure we have seen modred somewhere as a guy who arturia stabbed

not fan arts, and also the anime did focus on saber's route

that's what i am saying, she has the largest bust in fate, rivaled only by rider

@willyvereb: japanese and fanservice, is like almost the same thing, so yeah....., not on the Nasu-fans demographic however
 
and most fans seem to not like the borderline of having a bust compared to pettanko( so in their mind there's only ,BBS ---> middle grade---->pettanko), so most of the time they pumped it into at least Rin size

@willyvereb: the only time arc get to 100% is on a certified fan game, and off screen, in the game he still get his ass kicked by the OC, and in off screen he got kicked by her big sis, go figure?
 
akiha is made to be the target of size joke, fans cannot get over that(fate got ilya, then again if her mother is anything to go by.......), and she had the little sister thing going , it's like law
r shiki is the MC so she get benefits from that of not being a target (rin size is commonly said to be good enough)
 
if we say it is a powerup, that's half true in fate......., look at sakura compare with rin
 
avoided in
compare rider and saber
compare saber and caster

@willyvereb: depends on what you call the weakest, it is most of the time, Deus sex machina
 
PoB do apply in some parts, just not in servant class, in male it's how many "bling bling" do you have
 proof
gilgamesh is one of the best servant, he got way too many" bling bling "
lancer get easily crapped, he only got one" bling bling" (albeit that bling bling says die all the time)
archer can make his own "bling bling", he is shown fighting a superior servant twice and killing it 6 time, had the berserker not have that one-up phantasm, he would have win
lancelot can make anything into "bling bling", see how good is he fighting gilgamesh, with things he never seen before
 
PoB proof
sakura and rin, who had the most prana?
rider and caster, who is able to fight better?
 
well arturia did complained about how her body is not "womanly"

@willyvereb: not really general, but it did say, the cat harem must have, one foreign, and one big breasted characther. there's nothing saying that they should be both at the same time
 
you mean like the "princess sakura" in fate tiger coll?

@willyvereb:

i believe i have that one
so how many magical girl did we have in nasu-verse anyway/
kaliedo ruby
prism ilya
that form of luvia and her apprentice (saphire something)
phantas-moon
magical cherry(more like grape , if going by color theme)
kohaku