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FUNI: "Well, We MIGHT Release Unedited Bund"

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You guys complained-- and complained, and complained, and complained! --and FUNimation listened...maybe. In a statement issued to ANN, FUNimation declared that while they will continue to only stream edited versions of Dance in the Vampire Bund, they will consider releasing un-edited Bund goodness on the DVDs-- once the entire series has come out, in order to "ensure compliance with current U.S. law."

Whether that last bit is or is not in fact a roundabout way of saying "yes, the Handley decision had an impact in our decision" will doubtless be debated to death; as for me, I'll hold back for now-- I'm writing a longer piece of the matter that you guys will get to see in a week or so.

Now, what do you think? Will FUNi end up releasing the unedited versions because, as some argue, it's not really all that sexual? Or is this statement designed to placate the fans in the meantime while FUNi still plans to release an edited version, quietly? Or was the whole thing just anmarketing scheme to promote the unedited version in the first place?

In the interest of full disclosure: I worked for a FUNimation sister company, animeOnline, for six months in 2007. Given that it didn't end particularly positively-- the site was shut down for a variety of internal reasons, none of which involved anything I or the editorial staff had done, but was a shut-down nonetheless --I'm not sure if that would bias me for or against FUNi. 

That said, I've spent more time interacting with current FUNimation employees AFTER working there than during, since I telecommuted from out of state, and I feel pretty comfortable offering my opinion: I think that the rabid response was somewhat surprising and they are trying to fill their contract with Media Factory to release the series, keep the fans happy, AND remain within very safe bounds of the law-- and acceptibility to Navarre's shareholders, since the company is public. (Unrelated note, most likely: Navarre's stock went up a smidge today.)

What do you think?    
crusader8463on March 10, 2010 at 5:46 p.m.
What it all comes down to is them complying with what fans want, while at the same time not stepping on any legal toes. At the end of the day they are a company who wants, and needs, to make money. Given that they are selling a niche product to an already niche audience it only makes sense that they would listen to what the fan base wants, and if that's naked loli vampire boobies then they will include naked loli vampire boobies. They couldn't care less about artistic integrity, offending people, or making a product that is used as an example of all that is wrong with the world if it makes them money. However if pandering to any of those things means they will make more money then they will put on that hat and sing its praises to the high heavens, and that's perfectly fine because hats what companies need to do and are supposed to do to stay afloat.
 
Don't think for a second though that FUNimation as company feel one way or another about any of this loli is good/bad topic of late. They are just as happy to release a product censored to the bone, or with boobs, sex and violence in every other scene; as long as it sells.
 
Sorry for that rant, for some reason the article just made me feel like people were anthropomorphizing FUNimation's view on all of these Loli banning laws; which just seems silly to me.
JJOR64on March 10, 2010 at 5:56 p.m.
It would be a wise move to release the show uncensored I think.  Most fans (like myself) like their content the way it's meant to be watched, not some butchered version of it.
FoxxFireArt moderator on March 10, 2010 at 6 p.m.
I just find it odd that they released a statement saying that they will "consider" doing something. Didn't they already consider that when they made the statement about only releasing edited versions? Either they are going to do it or not. Seems like they felt enough pressure to need to get something out fast. I completely understand certain edits are needed for online, but not when you are buying the DVDs.
 
I think they would get people more angry if they would release the edited DVDs and not saying anything else about unedited after making this statement. They have pretty much locked themselves into giving some kind of answer eventually.
 
I've only seen the first episode in a fan sub site. This kind of news just makes me want to see the unedited fan sub versions just so I can see what the big deal is all about. I just don't get why this is so much more worse then Strike Witches, which they are releasing unedited.
metalsnakezeroon March 10, 2010 at 6:21 p.m.
@JJOR64:  Agree. It also makes sense to have it unedited on DVD since it not a public thing like their streaming site. 
 
@FoxxFireArt:  It can be pretty annoying when they say one thing and do something else. At least their owning up to it.
FoxxFireArt moderator on March 10, 2010 at 6:30 p.m.
@metalsnakezero: 
I know, I have heard that the FUNimationCase Closed kept the Japanese names in the subtitled section of the DVDs, but haven't been able to confirm this myself.
giaon March 11, 2010 at 6:51 a.m.
@FoxxFireArt: I don't think it's so weird that they want to try to mitigate some of the damage done by saying "okay, we heard you-- we'll wait and see how the show pans out and make a decision then." Then they aren't committed to either path, while still calming most people down.
Charagonon March 11, 2010 at 8:12 a.m.
If it's a show that they didn't think they could release unedited, then it's a show they should not have picked up in the first place. I actually applaud the idea of getting the loli out of anime, but that has to happen in Japan, not here. It's not a matter of practicability, but of principle.
XChileon March 11, 2010 at 11:23 a.m.
Hmm I think your right it was probably a publicity stunt.
Fabeon March 11, 2010 at 8:41 p.m.
@FoxxFireArt said:
" @metalsnakezero: 
I know, I have heard that the FUNimationCase Closed kept the Japanese names in the subtitled section of the DVDs, but haven't been able to confirm this myself. "
I can confirm that the sub of Case Closed does keep the original Japanese names. I've seen it for my self.
FoxxFireArt moderator on March 11, 2010 at 9:07 p.m.
@Nanashi: 
I don't see the point of pirating as long as FUNimation offers a product unedited in some form.
 
@Fabe:
I'm not doubting you. I just normally like to see things for myself before I state them as fact. I am also curious about what happens onscreen when they show the suspects names. Do they show the Japanese names, or the English altered names on the screen?
 
I know someone who can get me the movies on Netflix and I'm going to try out the 3rd and 6th Case Closed movies to check them out.
Fabeon March 11, 2010 at 9:17 p.m.
@FoxxFireArt said:

 
@Fabe:
I'm not doubting you. I just normally like to see things for myself before I state them as fact. I am also curious about what happens onscreen when they show the suspects names. Do they show the Japanese names, or the English altered names on the screen?
 
I know someone who can get me the movies on Netflix and I'm going to try out the 3rd and 6th Case Closed movies to check them out. "
I understand wanting to see thing for your self,perfectly reasonable. I don't know about  the Suspects names though,I only reason I know they uses the original names in the subs is because that's what I remember seeing when i saw it at a friends place .
transgojoboton March 11, 2010 at 10:55 p.m.
I believe others have already theorized that FUNi's shareholders (Navarre's actually) caught wind of this title and flipped (re: internal memo). There's a strong likelihood that the shareholders really don't want one of their products dragged into the light and used as evidence in the next "Chris Handley" case. Now, I'm not suggesting that that's what will likely happen. I'm just attempting to rationalize---however silly---what may have gone through the minds of Navarre's higher-ups.  
 
What I don't understand is why FUNimation licensed this title, if they don't have so much as a CLUE what future episodes will look like? Who could they have possibly been in a bidding war with?  
 
Or perhaps, FUNi contractually had to take on Vampire Bund and localize it in order to acquire ANOTHER Media Factory series? Hmm...
John_Martoneon March 12, 2010 at 11:54 a.m.
@transgojobot said:
" I believe others have already theorized that FUNi's shareholders (Navarre's actually) caught wind of this title and flipped (re: internal memo). There's a strong likelihood that the shareholders really don't want one of their products dragged into the light and used as evidence in the next "Chris Handley" case. Now, I'm not suggesting that that's what will likely happen. I'm just attempting to rationalize---however silly---what may have gone through the minds of Navarre's higher-ups.  
 
What I don't understand is why FUNimation licensed this title, if they don't have so much as a CLUE what future episodes will look like? Who could they have possibly been in a bidding war with?  
 
Or perhaps, FUNi contractually had to take on Vampire Bund and localize it in order to acquire ANOTHER Media Factory series? Hmm... "
Well, and I think the "attempt" to censor themselves, despite the outcome, is probably enough to protect themselves. We've gotten the impression that bund isn't "that" bad, and since it was the public at large that was like "we don't care," it takes some of the onus off of them, if shit did hit the fan.

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