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Free No More: Hulu to Charge in 2010

This isn't strictly anime news-- yet.


 They're charging WHAT?!
 They're charging WHAT?!

A lot of us have watched anime on Hulu here and there-- VIZ's simulcasts for Naruto and InuYasha are on Hulu even if you watch at VIZ's sites for them, and FUNimation has thrown a lot of series up there too. Media Blasters has experimented on the site, though less extensively-- and I think that's about it, although these three companies represent a significant number of licenses.

But word is that Hulu is going to start charging for their services in 2010, rather than being entirely ad-supported. Via Newsarama:

“I think a free model is a very difficult way to capture the value of our content. I think what we need to do is deliver that content to consumers in a way where they will appreciate the value,” Carey said. “Hulu concurs with that, it needs to evolve to have a meaningful subscription model as part of its business.”

Of course, there's no word on what kind of pay structure it will have-- a subscription, like Crunchyroll, or perhaps per-video payment system? Points? And that doesn't even begin to touch on the actual dollar amounts we'd be talking.

In the meantime, I have e-mails out to all three of the aforementioned companies to see if any of them have any comment on what this will mean for their streaming efforts-- particularly VIZ and its simulcasts.

What do you think? Are you willing to pay for Hulu? How cheap would it have to be to retain your viewership?
JJOR64on Oct. 22, 2009 at 11:50 a.m.
I hope they don't start charging.  :(  Maybe they are not making enough money from the ads on the site.  Either way, this sucks big time if they start charging.
DocHauson Oct. 22, 2009 at 12:16 p.m.
I suppose it was only a matter of time, though I would like it if they went to a hybrid model of making some newer stuff free and some older stuff pay-to-watch.
 
Nonetheless, it shows the difficulties of keeping a streaming video business running on the net and making it profitable and legit. You can blame piracy or money-grubbing producers, but in the end someone's gotta pay for the content.
GodLen staff on Oct. 22, 2009 at 12:38 p.m.
wow, but i guess it has to happen. Though I have to admit, I'm really loving crunchy roll now, it gives me the opportunity to watch anime while i'm at work and away from my computer! 
Void_Wizardon Oct. 22, 2009 at 12:39 p.m.
I won't be watching anything on hulu anymore once they start charging for streaming content.
giaon Oct. 22, 2009 at 12:46 p.m.
I'll write up a lengthier report later when I hear back from other companies, but FUNimation's official word is:
 
"We don't foresee that a change to a subscription based model will affect our relationship with Hulu. Hulu has been a great partner with great content and we will continue to put anime series on the site as long as entertainment fans continue to go there to watch their favorite series or find a new one to love."
sunfloweron Oct. 22, 2009 at 1:46 p.m.
I won't pay to watch anything there.  I don't use it very often.  Plus they already have ads.  
 
I'd think Funimation would be able to set its own rules for access to its content there though, wouldn't they?
giaon Oct. 22, 2009 at 1:48 p.m.
@sunflower said:
" I won't pay to watch anything there.  I don't use it very often.  Plus they already have ads.    I'd think Funimation would be able to set its own rules for access to its content there though, wouldn't they? "
I think it depends. Content providers can make their own rules with a small company like Crunchyroll, but Hulu is co-owned by some of the biggest media conglomerates in the US, if not the world, so...maybe not.
MorpheusDreamweaveron Oct. 22, 2009 at 3:09 p.m.
If they charge a reasonable rate, I'll consider paying -- but I'm only watching InuYasha the Final Act and the occasional missed episode of Castle there, so I'm not willing to pay a lot.
 
I don't mind Hulu moving to a paid model -- advertising revenue isn't what it used to be anywhere, so I don't see how they could have a sustainable model with the limited commercials that they do run.
lanaswifton Oct. 22, 2009 at 3:17 p.m.
I would pay if the price was decent-- under $10/mo for unlimited access would be fine by me.
N15PCAon Oct. 22, 2009 at 4:13 p.m.
No.  I don't get this.  Don't they get money from the ads.  
 
Don't tell me they not going stop running the ads when they do this also.
giaon Oct. 22, 2009 at 4:30 p.m.
@N15PCA: It's really hard to make money from ads. You generally charge on a CPM basis-- that's cost per "mille" (thousand) views. However, the number of those ad views that actually convert into sales can vary widely. For example, a site that manages to get a lot of views because it's a single letter off from, say, eBay.com might get a lot of views on its ads, but probably relatively few of them will actually get clicked, much less become a sale.
 
As such, the amount you can get for CPM isn't very high, because there isn't a lot of direct return on investment, which means you don't get a lot of money with the ads. 
 
We'll see what Hulu decides to do about the ads they currently run, though.
Karasuon Oct. 22, 2009 at 5:35 p.m.
If their advertising is not paying the bills, they're doing it wrong, and are just going to drive people back to torrenting. As was said, they're owned by enormous media companies, so they have a pretty good idea how to sell advertising.
 
Also, I'd never pay for something that used to be free.
Nikoon Oct. 22, 2009 at 10:47 p.m.
I kind of agree with Karasu in that charging on Hulu for certain shows will likely regress some progress it's made away from piracy. 
 
It really depends on just how it charges and what for. I really don't see Hulu going completely paid content. It'll have to keep some free videos and charge for premium content, similar to crunchyroll. However, I don't know where it'll draw the line, and where ever it does, it's going to alienate a lot of viewers that fall on the pay side.
lordhaseoon Oct. 23, 2009 at 6:13 a.m.

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