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I still haven’t figured out what Hol Horse’s name is supposed to be in reference to. My first guest would be some folksy Neil Young album I’m just not familiar with, but that’s probably not it. Do any of you craftier Vicers know the answer to this riddle?

Maybe it’s just a consequence of trying to mix horror and action. One of my big complaints against ATTACK ON TITAN was that you had slog through long and slow passages (usually replete with excessive inner monologues) in order to get to the moments of exciting thrills. If I ever were being generous about it, I’d describe that as the crew intentionally lulling you into a sleepy state so the shocks would hit that much harder. However, I honestly think that’d be giving them too much credit. It was just uneven pacing.

Now, the counterpoint to that was DEATH NOTE. It had slower moments, but you could tell it was to build tension. Hell, one of the best episodes was occupied entirely by Light trailing an undercover agent on a sidewalk, and trying to pry her real name out of her through a very long conversation. However, DEATH NOTE was always presented as horror - - not horror/action - - so that’s probably why it worked.

So now we’ve got JOJO’s, seeming to put this whole genre theory to that test..

I was going to write this episode off, based on the A-Side, but once I got to the B-Side, it was clear that was the attention (not an effect that was stumbled upon, TITAN-style). There’s this exquisite tension once Enya’s reintroduced, where you’re waiting for her to strike, or for the Stardust Crusaders to figure out who she is. And when the shoe finally does drop, it’s of course with all the ridiculous aplomb this show has been defined by - - and it hits harder because you’ve been waiting for it.

Maybe it works better because this show's far less serious about itself than TITAN was?

Watch "Justice Part 1" and decide for yourself, then read my comments on the previous episode.

YotaruVegetaon July 24, 2014 at 6:30 a.m.

JoJo's does genuinely oogie me out, especially with the Justice episodes. I think it is body horror, not jump scare horror.

rubberluffyon July 24, 2014 at 8:23 a.m.

Hol Horse is kind of a weird reference to 70's R&B group Full Force. At least, according to the JoJo wiki, but knowing Araki it's totally legit. Also any scene with Polnareff during the Justice part is AMAZING.

Marshal Victoryon July 24, 2014 at 12:41 p.m.

@rubberluffy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hol_Horse They say its Hal & Oats so I think the wikis should have a thumb wrestle dual at 10 paces to settle this!

That said I like this episode for its build up an use of a French kissing in the worst way.

takashichea moderator on July 25, 2014 at 12:08 p.m.

@Marshal Victory: @rubberluffy:

I read the article for Hal & Oats, but how does that relate to Hol Horse. I didn't see any song named after a horse or something or something in that article that related to "Hol." I saw in Jojo Wikia they said Hol Horse is a reference to Full Force.

With the other guys, their names are directly related to the bands or the songs they played.

Marshal Victoryon July 25, 2014 at 1:04 p.m.

@takashichea: No clue how it related or if true but it is on wikipeda. Just pointing it out that their is a wiki conflict. Also http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/676176-jojos-bizarre-adventure-all-star-battle/67853968 posters make the claim Hall and Oats pronounced in Japanese sounds like Hol Horse. But same claim is made that Full Force sounds that way to. But considering the bands etc the names have come from eh band Full Force does not fit the pattern of music. So maybe could be an dunno fits the name game.

takashichea moderator on July 25, 2014 at 4:47 p.m.

@Marshal Victory:

I notice that in your earlier comment. Just saying that I don't why they came up with those references. I guess we just include both interpretations in our wiki page, Hol Horse.

Marshal Victoryon July 25, 2014 at 9:46 p.m.

@takashichea: If we think especially in this second season the named villains have a tie into the music band they have a nick name from. An the writer was a huge american pop/rock fan. Take Centerfold for instance his name is J. Geils after the J. Geils Band song ..

So you can connect the the name to the band same for ZZ easy to see the ZZ top connection With his Wheel of fortune power that looks like cadzilla. But Hol Horse could go either way. But from what I can see he actually looks a bit like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Hall of Hall ans Oates especially in his younger days.

But I can not tie his power to that band nor can I tie it to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Force in any way other than the name pun.

Also note a upcoming villains name was changed as were a few others in the series when the manga came to the states. For copyright reasons so goes the story. So its possible Hol Horse was changed some where along the line. But it seems that would have been a known thing or at least noticed.

takashichea moderator on July 26, 2014 at 11:26 a.m.

@Marshal Victory:

You're right. We did had name altercations and you can actually hear them say J. Geils in the anime instead of Centerfold.

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