People complain that in anime we get moe show after moe show with no end in sight. Complain as you will but know this, at least we are not living in China where they get cheap knock off after cheap knock off. The newest show to come out of China is Astro Plane, which is basically Macross with a tad bit of Gundam 00 thrown in to the mix.
They must have come to the conclusion that Macross F and Gundam 00 sold well in Japan, so if we combine them both and add in Communist propaganda, then this will be the next Lord of the Rings, right? Sad to say that even though I’m making fun of it, I still want to watch this; the unfortunate drawback to being a mecha fanboy.
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Actually, I seem to have lost my point...
Giant Robots, as a major story component and plot point, are a delicate thing. Too far in any direction and they are just huge targets for ridicule and dispargement.
Unless we're talking TTGL, where Over The Top is just Made of Awesome, With Drills.
Anyway: China Anime most likely equals fail, but I'll give them some credit for attempting to copy successful Robot anime...
...And Macross was, originally, a Gundam ripoff. Imitation can be a road to greatness in the full unfolding of time.
Large amounts of Moe > Bad Chinese anime
@rocketbomber: Saying that Macross is a "ripoff" of Gundam is akin to saying that every robot show that came after Evangelion is an Evangelion rip-off. Sure, Macross takes a lot of cues from Gundam, but so did a lot of mecha shows in the '80s. Let's not forget that Gundam single-handedly created the real robot genre, so all real robot shows owe quite a lot of their aesthetic and tone to that series.
@metalsnakezero: False. Bad Chinese anime >> Large amounts of moé (especially when those Chinese anime contain planes that turn into robots)
this.
" Shoji Kawamori is definitely best known as being the man responsible for Macross [premiering in 1982]. With Mobile Suit Gundam changing the face of anime with its realistic and piloted giant robots, and wanting to return to the ever-popular space battleship concept, Kawamori, a young animator at Studio Nue, decided to combine the ideas and came up with a huge transforming battleship, hence: Superdimensional Fortress Macross. Originally not meant to be taken too seriously, the show was supposed to feature an all-female bridge crew, a male alien spy who has a love affair with the captain, and a supergenius ace pilot who, against all existing anime tradition, is not the story's main character. Some of the wacky ideas stayed, and some were ditched, but Kawamori's strange sense of humor is frequently evident in the anime he works on, including Escaflowne."
link: http://www.cjas.org/~echen/articles/fall97/09_20b.html
Gundam didn't even create the piloted 'robot': that nod goes to Mazinger Z [1972] -- or back to Tetsujin 28 [the manga publ. in 1956 - excuse me, I forgot to add the proper emphasis: 1956] though 'Gigantor' was controlled by a remote, not directly by a pilot, so its inclusion is only for completists -- so we can call both Macross & Gundam Mazinger Z ripoffs, if one wants to go that direction.
Wiki Gundam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gundam
Wiki Mecha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecha
Giant robots didn't start with Gundam nee 'Gunboy' but Gundam certainly did a lot of things right: re-writing the Mecha handbook, as it were.
This also made Gundam a target for flattery and/or parody (see the quote that starts this comment.)
In the trailer, though, the dissonance between the giant robots and things blowing up and the music has rounded the corner on lame and is heading toward hilarious.
I care about guys in silly plastic suits martial arting monsters to death though, which is just as ridiculous.
If you must compare it to anything, try thinking of the relationship between Robotech and Macross. About the only difference between this crap and Robotech sadly is that Robotech was made with the intention of making it more enjoyable for local audiences, and not for keeping Japan from being able to compete in the American market (also, Harmony Gold paid licensing rights to make it, so it doesn't really deserve to be called "ripping off" at all).
That trailer music is way too calm.
A) I was hoping this article would be about China making Macross units... I.E. Transforming fighter jets.
B) This is... well, surprisingly unsurprising.
C) Good discussions folks ^_^
will agree
@RockmanBionics said:
gantz?
@BruceMcF said:
ever watched linebarrel? they did that, and apparently the swinging is way more successful
@HeeroYuy: That's what I was trying to say! Pointing fingers and talking about who copied whom is stupid – unless we're talking about clear rip-offs like this Chinese show, which is obviously just grabbing the Valkyrie design and running with it.
Look, all I know is that if a japanese pop star starting singing right now, we'd stop fighting.