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CASE CLOSED #762 -- Special Review

Why do people love this little scamp so much?

It goes to show how that there’s just so much anime running at any given time. How often have we talked about the Holy Shonen Trinity and neglected to mention this cute, bespectacled elephant in the room? Think ONE PIECE’s 678 episodes are impressive? Well, how impressive are they compared to 762? Oy…

And we’re not even talking about DORAEMON or POKEMON here, are we? I have to wonder why a show that’s popular enough to run for this many episodes doesn’t have that much of a presence in the American anime sphere. Seems like Crunchyroll only just recently started streaming it, so perhaps the rights have simply been tied up for a long time? I imagine importing the show has never been easy, lest anybody confuse this Conan with the talk show host or the barbarian.

Sampling this latest episode, I’d guess the better explanation is that this is maybe too old-fashioned. Even if it’s anime, teenagers simply aren’t going to get as excited about a junior detective on the order of Encyclopedia Brown, the Hardy Boys or, hell, Little Orphan Annie as they will for some complex mythos of super-powered asskickers.

This was a quaint enough diversion, but man, if it didn’t feel like the anime equivalent of reading three panels of a BRENDA STARR comic strip that’s still in the Sunday funnies for some reason. I was half-expecting the episode to end with a tutorial on how to make a telephone out of two Styrofoam cups and a ball of string.

Surely, there must some hardcore Detective Conan fans in our community, though? Surely, one of you might step up and explain the deeper appeal of this series to me? How has it captured enough hearts and minds to run for 21+ seasons? I’d honestly like to know.

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Dream moderator on Jan. 8, 2015 at 2:26 p.m.

This show is actually licensed by Funimation right now as they have rights to the first 130 TV episodes and 6 movies to the series. Very likely, they haven't picked up rights to more episodes and movies in the franchise due to low sales. This isn't the first time they've ditched a series in the middle of its run either as they did the same thing with D Gray Man and Kodocha.

EVA_01on Jan. 8, 2015 at 2:33 p.m.

I watched this as a kid with local dubbing, it was pretty damn good...at the time; now I'm not sure if it's still good. All I know is that the storyline is pretty darn dragged out, my friends who are UTD on the series say that they STILL haven't revealed much about the Black Organization o_o

Dream moderator on Jan. 8, 2015 at 2:36 p.m.

@EVA_01: Compared to the HST where there's at least some revelations on things as events build up, there has been very little in the way of development with Detective Conan's nearly 20-year run beyond the addition of Ai Haibara and some of the mooks in the Black Organization being revealed. By now, you'd think Ran would piece together that Shinichi and Conan are indeed one and the same.

EVA_01on Jan. 8, 2015 at 2:41 p.m.

@Dream: Yeah I heard that too, I think the latest development was the reveal of that guy who worked for the B.O. is still alive somehow :/ Detective Conan is so slow Berserker would look like a rabbit next to it.

And the problem is that Ran is quite smart herself and she actually solved a few cases on her own, so I think that too is silly.

Kino88on Jan. 8, 2015 at 3:05 p.m.
Sounds like a kids show,
Dream moderator on Jan. 8, 2015 at 3:10 p.m.

@Kino88: In Japan, it is one as it was made to appeal to the shounen crowd.

taichokage is online on Jan. 8, 2015 at 3:13 p.m.
Vampire Hunter D Forum? Lol. Anyway, I have put this off for ages. But apparently this is the 5th best selling Shounen of all time behind One Piece, Dragonball, Naruto and the near 40 year old ongoing Kochikame. It just need picked up outside of Japan I guess. I've been told that it's deceptively dark at times and is fairly episodic.
AgentFakkuon Jan. 8, 2015 at 3:17 p.m.

I used to watch this as a wee lad along with Pokemon and SpeedRacer. It's one of those shows that won't end.

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Lurkeroon Jan. 8, 2015 at 4:44 p.m.

Detective Conan is kinda like Law & Order. It's okay to watch when nothing else is on, especially if you like mysteries. Conan isn't just for kids either, there are some intense cases throughout the show that would likely be censored in the USA.

The plot in Conan drags too long to watch on a regular basis though. I stopped keeping up with the series.

Dream moderator on Jan. 8, 2015 at 4:50 p.m.

@AgentFakku: @Lurkero: America and Japan have different sensibilities when it comes to the level of objectionable content found in a TV show or movie and how appropriate they think it would be to show to kids. Long-running shounen titles like the HST and Dragon Ball are made in mind for young boys in Japan, yet are considered an equivalent of a TV-14 rating here due to the amount of violence and occasional sexual humor in them being more intense than what you'd typically find in American animated shows and movies.

takashichea moderator is online on Jan. 8, 2015 at 7:42 p.m.

I got into Case Closed pretty late. Only watched few episodes below the 100 range on a channel called La 18. I realized the channel never will air Haibara's episode or any special episodes.

Crunchyroll finally gave a chance to stream the new episodes. I jumped on it. I'm somewhat lost, but things haven't change much besides the inclusion of a few new characters.

Oh, I need to move this thread to the right forum.

Dream moderator on Jan. 8, 2015 at 7:52 p.m.

There's no freaking way I'm gonna have the attention span to plow through hundreds of episodes to play catch-up with Detective Conan. Way too time-consuming to pull off.

taichokage is online on Jan. 8, 2015 at 7:59 p.m.

@Dream: I feel the same way. 10 episodes a day which is more than my typical pace would still take the better part of an entire season to get through.

dtolsonon Jan. 9, 2015 at 5:54 a.m.

Cased Closed was played on Adult Swim a few years ago. I think they only showed at most 30 episodes. It was around the time they played Lupin and shin-chan

Marshal Victoryon Jan. 9, 2015 at 4:25 p.m.

Long time fan of the show. Have seen all episodes an all of the movies but the latest one. For best enjoyment let the show play an avoid the screen till the intro music is done, to avoid spoilers plus watch after the end music is done for up to 5 minutes more wrap up an the last joke.

Show has many qualities an plays on quite a few levels. He basically is his own Robin to his own Batman. The animation an illustration style takes a bit to get used to but its long over arching stories are pretty good. Even the filler for the most part is pretty interesting. An the show pokes fun at it self as well. But has a strong center of showing what happens after the case. The fallout so to speak.

@Lurkero said:

Detective Conan is kinda like Law & Order. It's okay to watch when nothing else is on, especially if you like mysteries. Conan isn't just for kids either, there are some intense cases throughout the show that would likely be censored in

Thats mostly true but Law & Order is political spin on current events an crimes. Detective Conan is far more enjoyable an considering I like it an hate Law & Order not seeing the connection. Better comparison would be Bones tv show I think. Actually think a few of their murders came from Detective Conan.

@EVA_01 said:

@Dream:

And the problem is that Ran is quite smart herself and she actually solved a few cases on her own, so I think that too is silly.

She has come close many times over the years to discovering who he is. If not for some help from his friends an family she would know . With out the help of Ai Haibara , Heiji Hattori, Hiroshi Agasa , Kaitou Kid, even Yukiko Kudo an Yusaku Kudo have helped him keep his secret from Ran. An I believe Shuichi Akai knows/knew an Jodie Saintemillion does know.

EVA_01on Jan. 10, 2015 at 10:04 a.m.

@Marshal Victory: Oh yeah that's right, he's always covered by one of his friends, now I remember. But still, even if his friends helped keeping his identity secret, couldn't she have drawn her a conclusion by now? She herself has detective skills too after all.

Marshal Victoryon Jan. 10, 2015 at 12:23 p.m.

@EVA_01: She has some skill not any thing like Conan or the rest. I would argue shes would rank a little bellow Kogoro Mouri her father. Sure she does not have his street smarts but shes not hampered by his pride an or drinking problems. She has quick a wit but not as sharp at deductions. But she does have knowledge but not near like Conan or the rest. knowledge does not make deductive leaps like Conan.

Kogoro Mouri leads with his pride an the easy answer. She leads with her heart . Which can be blind. Plus she gets those phone calls an has seen him in full size a few times over the years. A few were impostors but some were him as well.

The ever spiraling new characters an over arching story makes it fun for me. Its more of a mystery to me why Conan has not snapped an killed George Kaminski by now tho! Hes not even good as a meat shield. Almost always leading the others into danger an folds when the tuff gets going.

EVA_01on Jan. 10, 2015 at 12:44 p.m.

@Marshal Victory: Oh yeah, she's definitely not on par with those guys. And like you said, she has her own way of approaching things.

I'm pretty sure the series is still good, but don't you think that how there hasn't been much revealed about the Black Organisation after 700+ episodes is kinda ridiculous? It's like the plot is filled with canon-filler.

I actually really wanted to get back into the series, but seeing how slow the plot development is and the fact that it's over 700+ episodes and ongoing kinda put me off. There's so much content to go through and it doesn't look like the plot will be REALLY moving anytime soon.

Marshal Victoryon Jan. 10, 2015 at 1:57 p.m.

@EVA_01: Um well I have watched all of it an its moved rather slow. But We know they are named after drinks. One inside wants them to fail. Hint she thinks Conan is the silver bullet. One is close to Conan an family. One of the good guys may or may not be dead by their hand. An the good guys have a plant on the inside. Have not read the manga not sure how far it moves the black organization story along. But since many of the um fan subs that I have seen tell what chapters the episode or arc is based on . Its not near as full of filler as say Bleach.

One thing it does do is recap well when the black organization arcs come up. So if you did not want to watch all the episodes one can drop in an pick up fairly well. Thats what I did at first. Then I hunted down the episodes an started fresh. Even with out the over arc of the black organization its a fun ride for me. Do recommend the Conan vs Lupin movies tho they are fun .

Dream moderator on Jan. 10, 2015 at 2:08 p.m.

@Marshal Victory: You mean Gin and Vodka?

I did see the 49 first episodes of the series when Adult Swim aired them years ago and I was able to pick up on details regarding later developments in the series from reading episode summaries for major points involving the Black Organization or Kaito Kid.

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