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BINBOGAMI GA! - Can There Ever Be Too Much Fanservice? -- THE VICE PIT

Does comedy turn tragic after too many panty shots? The conceits of boob jokes, flat-chested jokes and a whole handful of topics are seized by Tom and Sam in this Vice Pit session.

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    The Stegmanon Aug. 6, 2012 at 4:22 p.m.
    No, no there cannot.
    cynically_happyon Aug. 6, 2012 at 5:01 p.m.

    Short answer: yes

    Long Answer:

    yes...

    Halberdierv2on Aug. 6, 2012 at 5:43 p.m.

    yes, it can. that's the main reason why i was disappointed with Kampfer. it had the potential to be a pretty good story, but got ruined by unnecessary levels of fanservice.

    Dream moderator on Aug. 6, 2012 at 8:38 p.m.
    @cynically_happy: Don't remind me of having to go through that for one of my Ani-Crap postings.  
     
    Fan service can have its place in anime. But putting too much in a title at the expense of plot and characters will kill its entertainment value.
    takashichea moderator on Aug. 6, 2012 at 9:27 p.m.

    Binbogami-Ga! has a good balance of fan service, drama, and parody. I don't feel bad watching it; My little sister loves it. Shows that have too much fan service makes me feel uncomfortable unless I can watch it with somebody except if it's too naughty or defiles women.

    I used to hate Rock Lee and His Ninja Pals at first. The 2nd episode got me in. I actually look forward to it every week with Binbogami Ga, Sket Dance, Sword Art Online, Campione, and Humanity Has Declined. Fairy Tail just lost steam to me.

    Top8caton Aug. 6, 2012 at 9:28 p.m.

    I'm the type of person that gets completely turned off an anime with the introduction of fanservice, especially if it wants me to take it serious. However, some anime's can pull it off and I feel Golden Boy is an example of one that succeed in proving to me that you can go crazy with T&A and still be hilarious. So I'm not quite sure where to gauge the limit, but there's definitely a limit and it's easy to break.

    takashichea moderator on Aug. 6, 2012 at 9:29 p.m.

    Oh yeah, I don't need a reference sheet for listing parodies on those wiki pages. I got , , and who seen more anime I do.

    Edit:

    After watching this twice, I didn't know you were talking about Excel Saga. Nevermind

    Sonata moderator on Aug. 6, 2012 at 9:36 p.m.
    I believe fanservice will always work better with comedies. If it was an action type show it would be hard to take seriously if there is constant panty shots.
    takashichea moderator on Aug. 6, 2012 at 9:55 p.m.

    @Top8cat: @Sonata:

    I agree with you guys on how it can distracting for a serious show.

    Sonata moderator on Aug. 7, 2012 at 1:17 a.m.
    @takashichea: Can you image a show like Black Lagoon with crazy fanservice like Eiken  or Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero? it just wouldn't work.
    takashichea moderator on Aug. 7, 2012 at 3:24 a.m.

    @Sonata:

    Heh, if Rokuro Okajima acts like Akatsuki Ousaka, Revy would beat him up. Black Lagoon wouldn't be that great with that kind of fan service. Though, I haven't tried Black Lagoon.

    Lurkeroon Aug. 7, 2012 at 5 a.m.

    Easy answer.

    Does a show have fanservice? Yes? Then it has too much.

    Most of the anime I watch are shonen shows so the comedy I often get is exaggerated reactions accompanied by superdeformed characters. This gets very annoying and it is one of the reasons I lose interest in most anime. Sometimes if the show is cool enough, like Full Metal Alchemist, I am able to ignore it. However, with the case of a show like Fairy Tail there was so much cliche comedy along with the cliche plot that I just gave up. I can't stand small/big boob jokes, panty shots, exaggerated reactions to basic social situations, females that assault males by hitting them every time they say something ridiculous, characters that yell aloud what I just saw, and a bunch of other stuff.

    Apparently, Japanese comedy doesn't work for me so I just started skipping to the action whenever I could.

    Sonata moderator on Aug. 7, 2012 at 9:31 p.m.
    @takashichea: Its fantastic, A great anime to show to people who exactly aren't into anime.
    sickVisionz moderator is online on Aug. 8, 2012 at 3:04 p.m.

    I think it hurts legitimately serious shows, but it's not all that present in those. I'm thinking of something like Paranoia Agent and, to a lesser extent, Steins;Gate.

    A lot of the shows with service are about as serious as a Fast and Furious movie, which is to say that they are only taken seriously by like teenagers. They're supposed to be stupid or outlandish to a certain degree. Highschool of the Dead is a good example of a dumb fun show like that. I'd put something like that on the same level of seriousness as True Blood, a popular live action series on HBO that is basically ultra gory softcore porn with monsters. It's dark at times but it's pretty far from being serious, especially compared to something like SouthLAnd or NYPD Blue.

    Not to mention that there is an entire genre of anime that is basically in line with perv comedy movies like American Pie where boobs, titillation, and slapstick humor are the primary selling points. I'm pretty sure Binbogami is in that genre and has never tried to sell itself as this ultra serious, highbrow drama that will challenge your views on life and the world around you.

    Nightwolfon Aug. 8, 2012 at 5:22 p.m.

    @The Stegman said:

    No, no there cannot.

    I guess we're the only ones who think this way about it.

    No_name_here staff is online on Aug. 8, 2012 at 8:17 p.m.

    @The Stegman: @cynically_happy: @Halberdierv2: @Nightwolf: @sickVisionz: @Lurkero: @Sonata: @takashichea: @Top8cat: @Dream:

    I am profoundly disappointed in each and every one of you. 15 comments... and not one of them answering the questions of whose boobs are better.

    cynically_happyon Aug. 8, 2012 at 8:33 p.m.

    @Tom_Pinchuk: Sorry Tom, but gotta hand it to Sam for this one. That shirt of his accentuated his cleavage just right enough to beat you.

    The Stegmanon Aug. 9, 2012 at 10:08 a.m.
    @Tom_Pinchuk:  
     

    @Tom_Pinchuk : Sorry Tom, but gotta hand it to Sam for this one. That shirt of his accentuated his cleavage just right enough to beat you.

    It's true, Sam's sweater puppies are in top form...I didn't wanna say anything, cause I care about sparing your feelings.
    Marshal Victoryon Aug. 9, 2012 at 8:40 p.m.

    Better late than never... the question was "BINBOGAMI GA! - Can There Ever Be Too Much Fanservice?" an thats a simple no.The more complex answer would be the show is aimed at adults.Its jokes an language are blue.Hmm that was not that complicated at all.

    Sonata moderator on Aug. 11, 2012 at 11:49 p.m.
    @Nightwolf: Actually that level of fan-service doesn't bother me. Now if Deadman Wonderland went the crazy Agent Aika route a panty shot nearly every 5 seconds..thats a different story. 
     
    I still love the OP song to AIka though:P 
     

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