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Bakemonogatari Blu-Ray VERY Different from Broadcast

Significant changes abound!

EDIT: The original version of this article was incorrect. The difference is between the broadcast version and the DVD/Blu-Ray version, not the DVD versus the Blu-Ray. Corrections have been made to reflect this.
 
Anime blog Random Curiosity has a curious article about Bakemonogatari episodes 9 and 10, which just came out on both DVD and Blu-Ray in Japan. Now, there have frequently been differences between new releases and their broadcast counterparts, but it looks like Bakemonogatari has, true to form, decided to take the cake on this one-- not just a director's cut, but a complete re-animation of at least one episode. Here are a couple of side-by-side screencaps, broadcast left and Blu-Ray right.





We're not just talking detail changes or anything, we're talking complete stylistic change. Apparently episode nine was almost completely re-animated-- keeping the storyboards and pacing the same, but re-drawing most of the shots.

Pretty significant, eh? But I'll say, I'm not entirely sure I dig the Blu-Ray versions 100% better than the original versions-- if anything I'd say I find myself liking them equally.

How about you? Would you rather buy the DVD/Blu-Ray version, or the broadcast version?
Oneeyedjackson Feb. 1, 2010 at 4:13 p.m.
Interesting...I wonder how they would release this episode if Bakemonogatari ever got licensed here in the US.
sora_thekey moderator on Feb. 1, 2010 at 4:19 p.m.

I don't know why but I like the artistic style of the DVD better... seems more detailed!
FoxxFireArt moderator on Feb. 1, 2010 at 4:20 p.m.
I remember when the Code Geass DVDs were coming out for the R2 season. There would be some minor and often odd changes made. There was one episode I remember they added a jacket to Kallen.
 
They must of really wanted to make these changes to go through the trouble of either altering or completely remaking animation.
Matteon Feb. 1, 2010 at 4:23 p.m.
I'd have to agree, less than better, just different which suits me fine.  But I'll be getting the BD version anyway since I started buying BD as soon as that whole BD vs. HD competition was done.  Here's to hoping it makes it to the states
Agent_Loston Feb. 1, 2010 at 4:27 p.m.
If I remember right episode 10 was incomplete when it was aired. Also, I want episode 14.
JJOR64on Feb. 1, 2010 at 4:27 p.m.
That's interesting.  I wonder if the original episode 9 is on the disc somewhere.
Zeouterlimitson Feb. 1, 2010 at 4:46 p.m.
Woah, really? 
 I'm not a fan of the first image change but the rest look interesting.
metalsnakezeroon Feb. 1, 2010 at 5:01 p.m.
I'm more into the stylized one (BD version) since it's a type of art style that I like. 
scottfryeon Feb. 1, 2010 at 5:05 p.m.
I think I prefer the DVD version over the Blu-ray. 
giaon Feb. 1, 2010 at 6:49 p.m.
I think I'm on team DVD, the more I look at 'em. Unless the animation quality itself is better.
HeeroYuyon Feb. 1, 2010 at 8:16 p.m.
I like Senjougahara's sinister smile on the bluray side more, though I think I like the darker angle of Nadeko on the DVD more too. Ultimately if it comes to the US, I'm getting the blurays. And I'm DEFINITELY getting the blurays if that means they'll translate the commentary tracks they had on the Japanese ones that were hilarious too.
MoonStormon Feb. 1, 2010 at 10:20 p.m.
Well it looks like I really need to get a bluray player soon. WOOT time to get a PS3.
CheriPaion Feb. 2, 2010 at 7:06 a.m.
Why reanimate episode nine when they still need to finish the anime @,@
Daniel_Newton moderator on Feb. 2, 2010 at 8:40 a.m.
@gia said:
" I think I'm on team DVD, the more I look at 'em. Unless the animation quality itself is better. "
Yeah I agree, especially with the last shot, definitely prefer the DVD screenshot there.
cfatalison Feb. 2, 2010 at 9:07 a.m.
@Newten said:
" @gia said:
" I think I'm on team DVD, the more I look at 'em. Unless the animation quality itself is better. "
Yeah I agree, especially with the last shot, definitely prefer the DVD screenshot there. "
on the last shot yes, on the second shot yes, but i am confused on the first shot
John_Martoneon Feb. 2, 2010 at 12:19 p.m.
@cfatalis said: @HeeroYuy:@FoxxFireArt:
" @Newten said:
" @gia said:
" I think I'm on team DVD, the more I look at 'em. Unless the animation quality itself is better. "
Yeah I agree, especially with the last shot, definitely prefer the DVD screenshot there. "
on the last shot yes, on the second shot yes, but i am confused on the first shot "
 Yeah, don't ask why, but they removed her hat from one of the openings too. Its unfortunate, since she's much more adorable, distinctive wearing it.
 
 
haseo_yashimoraon Feb. 2, 2010 at 12:19 p.m.

Bakemonogatari is one of my favorite anime, @ayana got me into it, she LOVES it!
FoxxFireArt moderator on Feb. 2, 2010 at 12:52 p.m.
@John_Martone: 
I guess there is a higher probability that directors wont be completely happy with products when they have to produce a series so quickly. These are probably things they wanted to be done due to some notes, but due to time they just couldn't manage it. DVD and Blue Ray gives them the opportunity of time.
 
It's just that some changes are so minor is makes you wonder why they even bothered. It must of just really annoyed someone.
 
There are times There might be something in one of my drawings I may not be happy with, but I almost never alter something once it's completed. Grammar mistakes aside. I just take that lesson and apply it to the future.
John_Martoneon Feb. 2, 2010 at 2:45 p.m.
@FoxxFireArt: Oh, I understand, though mine comes from writing more than anything, though I don't really get the idea to continually back edit.
 
Okay, well, I get it, but I assume that its energy best put forward on newer, different projects.
 
None of the plays I've ever let myself put down and come back to ever seem to get done. If I go back after a mostly reasonable period of time, all I wind up doing is re-editing it, and even if those edits are (hypothetically) for the best, I never get around to pushing forward.
 
I did a 56 page comedy about people stuck in elevators in like... well, around a month writing time. Every week we had a rehearsal, and afterward I'd spend three days writing another 12 or so pages, and spend the next four re-editing/writing the whole package. The product ended up being my first really successful, complete writing project.
 
The problem was, I had written a fairly long, fun one act that I was suddenly obsessed with writing a second act for. Every year or so since I hit a two week phase where I really want to work on the continuation of the story, yet all I end up doing is second guessing and trying to re-write the first act that was what it was.
 
Basically, the moral of the story is that, in writing at least, changing shit around can only hurt your flow. If you write things after the fact, there's a good chance they'll sound like it too, so you spend way too much time trying to fix what wasn't broken.
FoxxFireArt moderator on Feb. 2, 2010 at 3:04 p.m.
@John_Martone: 
Like in the example of that opening you posted. That hat must of really irritated someone for them to go to the trouble of altering the animation to that degree.
 
Some of the worst back edits ever still goes to Spielberg and the ET edits. Replacing all the guns with radios. The word terrorist with hippie.
 
I can't remember where I heard this saying, but it went along the lines of. One too many strokes of the brush could turn a masterpiece into trash. Some things are just right as they are.

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