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Anime Filler vs. Padding -- THE VICE PIT

What's the difference really? Aren't we just talking about B-Material?

Donwunon May 15, 2014 at 11:01 a.m.

Agree with Marlon and Marshall V here on this topic once again

It's really amusing how HxH has really crawled under your skin now Tom....interested to hear more reasonings although i think you've already made your stance pretty clear on recent writeups. Regardless this is a good topic in general although long running shounen are not on the rise anymore and i have a feeling that trend is starting to fall off in anime and hopefully for good as i don't feel it's the best journey for any anime story tbh

Hunter x Hunter does not feel like a long running series to me. Each arc is so different and focuses on completely different elements so it kinda comes off feeling more like each arc is its own separate season and you have even illustrated frustration with this point in previous write ups

Lurkeroon May 15, 2014 at 2:53 p.m.

I think filler in terms of anime is specific to entire events that did not occur in the source material.

Padding is more like lingering on story events. Battles in DBZ did occur in the manga, but the animators can make a scene extend for minutes vs seconds depending on how much time they want to waste. There are scenes in DBZ where characters power up for minutes and the villains just stand there. An argument can be made that the manga doesn't specify how long that actually took, but..c'mon.

I've never read the HxH manga, but even without reading the manga many of the scenes FELT like padding because of home long it seemed like nothing was happening.

Kino88on May 15, 2014 at 3:03 p.m.
Yes!!!!! a new Vice Pit episode!!!!, As for the topic at hand, Hunter X Hunter has been a very fustrating series to say the least, The chimera ant arc has stretched itself far too thin, I do belive there is a difference between filler and padding However both are painful to watch, also far too many shonen shows make The mistake of throwing too many characters into the spotlight Too quickly, which is why I normally avoid that genre these days, I'm really starting to like blade and soul, by the way Tom you've talked a lot about the shonen Genre lately, but what are your thoughts on the Senian genre, and what are the best titles of its kind?,
JiCion May 16, 2014 at 5:15 a.m.

Padding: expanding on actual events of the series, complementing certains factoids, clarifying details and basically have a chance to just make it better in animation frames where you couldn't in pages.

Filler: desperate attempts to expand the story due to the shortage of the source material... unless it's ALREADY planned ahead by the author(s), pointless additions because it will never be referenced ever again in the series once it gets back on tracks with the source, weak excuse to add comedy in moments when it doesn't feel necessary and basically a chore to watch through because you just have no clear indication of that filler's ending. However, it feels less painful the less you know about the source material.

sickVisionz moderator on May 16, 2014 at 6:21 a.m.

Padding and filler are the same to me, although I hate the anime use of the word filler. Filler never has a positive connotation and good content often gets rejected by default simply because it wasn't in a comic book first.

Poor quality content that's stalling for time or simply there to turn one episode worth of content into more than one episode is padding/filler to me and you can have that whether it's an original story or word for word from the manga. I don't know if it's still like that but early One Piece would have like 5 minutes of recap from a previous episode in every episode. I'd call that filler/padding. Especially when they did it for the seasons where they had some ridiculous 5 minute opening theme song. Naruto's war arc is constantly flashing back to previous episodes for like 2-3 minutes at a time. Some of this is stuff that just happened a week ago so it's not like people have forgotten it, they're just stalling for time. I'd call that filler or padding even though the manga is like that as well. The anime is stalling for minutes and the manga is stalling for page count.

If something is an original story, that's well written, and on par with or better than what was in some comic book, I'd hesitate to slap the words with negative connotation on that. I'd just call it a side story. I'd put the first FullMetal Alchemist series in that group.

Marshal Victoryon May 16, 2014 at 12:45 p.m.

Now not to pick or be nit picky but um "words mean things". An padding in a real since is different from filler in a real world definitions.

pad·ding (păd′ĭng)

n.1. The act of stuffing, filling, or lining.

2. A soft material used to make pads or a pad.

3. Something added, especially extraneously or fraudulently: put some padding in the resumé.

Now story wise 3 fits , An you can see the confusion 1 has. Real world use of padding is to protect something.Filler is used to puff something out much like the auto body filer I used to give wrecked cars back their curves.

Think those that agree with my take on it in anime know the phrase in 3. As well understand the phrase "Gild the Lily"

fill·er (fĭl′ər)

n.One that fills, as:a. Something added to augment weight or size or fill space.

b. A composition, especially a semisolid that hardens on drying, used to fill pores, cracks, or holes in wood, plaster, or other construction surfaces before finishing.

c. Tobacco used to form the body of a cigar.

d. A short item used to fill space in a publication.

e. Something, such as a news item, public-service message, or music, used to fill time in a radio or television presentation.

f. A sheaf of loose papers used to fill a notebook or binder.

g.Architecture An element, such as a plate, used to fill the space between two supporting members.

Note d fits story wise. Oddly e and g also fit story wise. So if one thinks in terms of broadcasting any thing to fill in dead air is filler.

Sure one can argue meaning in a local context with in anime. Thus the reason I asked.Oh definitions from http://www.thefreedictionary.com

takashichea moderator on May 16, 2014 at 12:51 p.m.

@Kino88 said:

by the way Tom you've talked a lot about the shonen Genre lately, but what are your thoughts on the Senian genre, and what are the best titles of its kind?,

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