We’re still going to post our answers to all your mailbag questions later this weekend, but I couldn’t help but explore a topic here relating to MetalMac’s question about why Hollywood's American comics adaptations generally come out better than anime and manga adaptations. I figure a lot of that has to do with things getting “lost in translation,” as as well the original Japanese creators not often having direct involvement. Regardless, the topic's brought back some thoughts I’ve had about live action versions in general.
How many of you think “Man, I need to see this in live action” after finishing an anime?
See, what I’ve been appreciating about these shows is that they aren’t bound by the same rules Western entertainment’s so typically bound by. Fans ask why movies aren’t as good as the source material and, usually, that’s because you have to change what made the original so appealing in the first place. It just won't work in live action if you stick to the source exactly. If you like an anime show for its complexity and its detailed character development, that usually has to be the first thing to go. A series can take its time over 10 hours, whereas live-action movies can’t usually run longer than two hours. Things have to be changed, simplified or omitted outright. So, you take that away and maybe there’s still the look of the characters and their world. Well, a lot of things look better in 2D when you can fudge realism, but they look goofy in reality. So that’s another thing that has to be changed. Keep working your way down the list and the end product's far different from what you started with.
While there are certainly many adaptations I’ve enjoyed, I’m generally a firm believer that there are some stories that are told best (and, really, should only be told) in one specific medium. I enjoyed EVANGELION for everything that defines it as an anime. It's perfect as an anime. I'm not interested in seeing it in live action because whatever I'm going to see will be compromised or diluted. Why not just leave it as is?
There's obviously a lot to explore in this topic - - more than you can fit in a column. So I'm stepping aside for all of you to weigh in on this. Would you want to see live action versions of your favorite anime? Would you absolutely want to avoid them? Let me see your opinions.
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Look at comic book movies, they do pretty well.
But even they have to change certain thing and completely cut other things out.
I look at the Iron Man movies, they were made a setting that was realistic and believable.
Though I believe it also as a lot do with the people behind the scenes working on the scripts, story, designs, etc... that made movies like Iron Man Batman so good. Also good actors and actresses help. ^^
Who knows, maybe with the right people behind it and on the screen, a Live Action Anime could be good?
That fan made poster you have up here isn't to shaby, but I still think a LIVE-ACTION EVA is one of the WORST ideas out there!
Anyone remember the Live action Fist of the North Star? :/
Gunsmith Cats would be make an excellent live-action film. The series it's based on is very much a homage to American crime thrillers and action films. A film that kept that in mind and was reverent to the material the manga series was paying tribute to, while also being respectful of the manga could do well.
Similarly, a sports anime, whether boxing (Hajime No Ippo), or Baseball (Princess Nine) could be adapted well to live action and do well in the states - if only because sports films tend to do well with mainstream audiences in the US, even though sports anime don't do well with anime fans in the US.
As far as science fiction anime goes, while I don't think super robot anime could do well quite yet in the US, I think Real Robot anime could - in particular I'm thinking of Gundam and Patlabor. Patlabor is, in many ways, a mix of Barney Miller and Hill Street Blues with cops who drive Giant Robots instead of police cars.
Gundam, particularly in its Universal Century incarnation, and at it's best, is ultimately a war series that happens to have giant robots in it. If it was adapted properly, a live-action Gundam would be a war movie of the kind that western audiences would be familiar with, but with the soldiers piloting giant robots. The beam-sabers for the Gundams would probably need to be re-designed though, probably to look more like combat knives, or at their biggest like a Roman soldier's gladius, over the more long sword styled weapons from the Gundam series proper.
I suppose Votoms could also work for these reasons, but I don't have enough familiarity with Votoms to say for certain.
This...that newest DB Evolution movie was a joke.
I don't know if the live action Eva is in any way a good idea. Given how neo-ADV barely has signs of life, and this LA EVA didn't have signs of life for years when original ADV had it, I don't think it is at serious risk of happening. I'm pretty sure they're not going to be able to gather enough capital to hire WETA digital like they had originally hoped, and without a serious budget to go WETA or similar caliber, it's going to look like crap, and it probably will have a crap story anyway given how some ADV crew treated the tone of some anime with dubs that didn't try to line up with the tone and intent behind the original language.
The actual picture you used for "live-action Eva" here...is just some crappy fanart someone threw together online. Of course it looks crappy...its just fanart.
Use pics of the kick-ass weta concept art.
HECK YEAH! Gunsmith Cats is one of my favorites of all time. It's most deffinetly on my "Anime I'd like to see as a Movie" but it's also a very SHORT list. :)
Then again City Hunter was a comedic reality comic which could have been done as a decent live action. Unfortunetly they went toatlly comedic and poorly done. Though it did lead to one of the most famously bad Jackie Chan fight sequences. With him ending up as Chun Li. (Yes it was a huge Street Fighter 2 ad in the movie!)
But, it's true that most anime shows are out of the ordinary, and that there are standards to Hollywood movie productions (that pretty much limit the crap outta anime), but what about shows like Gundam (heck that's pretty close to transformers, which had a big budget and first movie raked in big money from what I've heard, and I would kill to see a 08th MS Mobile Suite adaptation, which was probably the most realistic gundam series out there)? Cowboy Bebop (it's something close to the Matrix, and I'd say possible)? and Sports anime/mangas, which aren't my thing but I figure would transfer pretty well to the big picture?
I don't know about a Live Action Eva, I really couldn't see it happening...
And I think the reason DBZ was such an EPIC FAIL, was because there was no effort put into it... actors were horrible, character design was BLEEPING awful, and I don't know what else to say about how bad of a miss it was...
Really, I kinda've inferred that Hollywood wants to see these kinds of movies fail, that or they don't want to take the risks, because Anime going live action means big budget... But, I see that if the potential efforts are made, they could be a cash pot just like comic book movies... eh, but that's just me... Hollywood =? racist
I don't know, a live action eva might be pretty cool as seen in this WetaWorkshop concept art...
Hell no.
The only Anime turned live-action movie that was decent was Death Note. And even that paled in comparison to the Anime. Look at "The Last Air Bender" action movie. They went as far as to cast a Caucasion kid as the main character, in hopes of reeling in biggoted American assholes. I'm not going to see it, simply because I DON'T want my feelings toward the Anime soured by it!
Oh I can't believe I forgot GTO! The Live action was AWESOME!
The way that happened is comics had to beat their way through to main stream american culture with bad adaptions. Before any studio would allow good budget and faithful adaption. Anime has a long away to go before it enters into the American Zietgiest like Batman or Iron Man has.
DBZ is definitely the closest any Anime has gotten. While there is are generation out there who has been exposed to the show that generation is not the one signing the checks. That's how evolution happened. However if things like Evolution and Kai keep happening maybe there will be one day when grand parents, parents, and children will have the respect enough for the DB franchise to let a good live action adaption happen.
As fans we can't sit here and say NO it's not our call, it's just an opinion, it's the Japanese company's decision overall. In the end it may create new fans.
When asked about the DB movie, people who never watched the anime loved it. While those who had, hated it. Those who loved it may look into the origional and purchase the DVD's or watch DBZ: Kai. It's a double edge sword but the gamble may prove worth while in the end.