Who I think ,Tobi is

Topic started by MrASSH0LE on Dec. 31, 2011. Last post by sickVisionz 2 years, 11 months ago.
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,335 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Mito Uzumaki


MY CASE

-We have seen Tobi use the chain that was used by Kushina to restrict the Kyubi on the Five-Tails

 Kushina using similar chains
 Kushina using similar chains
-The only other person to possess a rinnengan in the Naruto aside from Nagato is Madara.We must therefore assume the eyes were transplanted  from him to Nagato.Tobi was the one who gave those eyes.This seems obvious especially knowing Madara seems to know about Nagato's. Mito existed at the same time as Madara ,she therefore had access to the eyes and she and Nagato are from the same clan.
-She has access to the First Hokage's body which would allow her to use his cells for Izanagi and the creation of the White Zetsu.I am sorry don't have pictures for that.
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,386 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@MrASSH0LE:

So why would she be talking in third person?

Post by sickVisionz (4,310 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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The only evidence that couldn't be used to say anyone else from Madara's time is Tobi is that both of them use chains... even though we've never seen Mito use chains. Seems like a stretch to me.

Post by MrASSH0LE (2,335 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@Destinyheroknight: For one I am not sure Tobi is speaking.Secondly,Tobi's character CONSTANTLY lies .First ,he hid under the persona of a man-child named Tobi then he claimed to be Madara.
@sickVisionz
What I am trying to get across is that the chain technique is most likely  an Uzumaki technique..Generally ,people from the same clans tend to have the similar techniques in Naruto.As for the stretch it isn't more of a stretch then the future Sasuke theory,the Obito theory or the Izuna theory.It also has certainly more backing it then the idea that he is the son of the Sage of Six Paths or the son Hashirama Senju.
Post by justanormalguy (270 posts) See mini bio Level 10

It's Madara's brother.

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,386 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@MrASSH0LE:

He thinking to himself, I pretty sure he don't lie to himself in his mind (it be funny if he did LOL!)

Post by sickVisionz (4,310 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@MrASSH0LE said:

@sickVisionz: As for the stretch it isn't more of a stretch then the future Sasuke theory,the Obito theory or the Izuna theory.It also has certainly more backing it then the idea that he is the son of the Sage of Six Paths or the son Hashirama Senju.

I'll agree that it isn't any more of a stretch than future Sasuke but I'll throw in that both of those theories are equally nonsensical, ridiculous, and farfetched.

It's way more of stretch than the other Izuna and Obito. The only thing even close to solid evidence is that they both use chains, which is a pretty weak connection. The Obito argument is kinda wonky but at least you can make a super meh argument that they both have Uchiha abilities, for a while both of them were thought to only have one eye, and the amalgam letters in their name. That's not really much evidence at all and none of it holds much water, but it's significantly stronger than both of them use chains and they were alive at the same time.

Post by MrASSH0LE (2,335 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@sickVisionz said:

The Obito argument is kinda wonky but at least you can make a super meh argument that they both have Uchiha abilities

So saying they both have Uchiha abilities is better then saying they both have the same technique?
 

for a while both of them were thought to only have one eye, and the amalgam letters in their name


Currently , we know that isn't the case so that is irrelevant.

ut it's significantly stronger than both of them use chains and they were alive at the same time.


That is over-simplifying my argument and you know it,no offence. 

@Destinyheroknight
Lol you got me there but it's possible that since Tobi does not give a f*ck about who he/she is that he could.I also though Hashirama could be a nice Tobi since Kabutomaru said he had taken some of Madara's power and because of point 2 and 3 in the OP.
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,386 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@MrASSH0LE:

Well, it could be that Tobi is a Entity that take over people bodies. (Kind of like Orochimaru) I beginning to believe that it might be the Ten Tail beast's soul (since it body is on the Moon and it probably want it back) so it made the moon plan to hide its true goal (also Tobi current body could be Konan, since she trash the last one)

Post by sickVisionz (4,310 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@MrASSH0LE: I don't understand how them using a technique that looks similar means that they are the same person, especially when we've seen people use identical techniques before and we know that the Uchiha have the ability to mimic/copy other techniques.

She has access to the First Hokage's body which would allow her to use his cells for Izanagi and the creation of the White Zetsu.I am sorry don't have pictures for that.

All of your other arguments are literally they were alive at the same time, which doesn't mean anything. Anybody with a shovel has access to the 1st Hokage's body. When have the shown Tobi or Mito using Izanagi or said that Tobi made Zetsu? I don't understand how any of that is even relevant to the topic unless you're making some huuuuuuuuge leaps in logic, which would (as I've said) make this even wonkier of a theory than others.

Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

I'll have to disagree. Simply because they both use those chains is not much of a case at all.

ND

Post by JonSmith (185 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Y'know, I was reading this thread, and for some reason I suddenly started thinking about Orochimaru... Looking back, he seems kind of small and sad in comparison to everything and everyone else that's gotten involved in this big scheme, don't you think?

Post by MrASSH0LE (2,335 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@sickVisionz said:

@MrASSH0LE: I don't understand how them using a technique that looks similar means that they are the same person, especially when we've seen people use identical techniques before and we know that the Uchiha have the ability to mimic/copy other techniques.


Most of the techniques the Uchiha use are properties of the clan
Katon and eye jutsus is all they use.


All of your other arguments are literally they were alive at the same time, which doesn't mean anything. Anybody with a shovel has access to the 1st Hokage's body. When have the shown Tobi or Mito using Izanagi or said that Tobi made Zetsu? I don't understand how any of that is even relevant to the topic unless you're making some huuuuuuuuge leaps in logic, which would (as I've said) make this even wonkier of a theory than others.

.Tobi talked about Zetsu 's creation while speaking to Kabuto and Izanagi was use to save him/herself from Konan 's explosion.As I said somebody who could get both Madara and Hashirama's body parts would most likely be somebody from this era it,s just common sense since we've never seen anybody in Naruto actually pick-up  a shovel for eyes  . I am just trying to understand how my theory  which I feel I have sufficiently backed-up is "wonkier" then all the other theories around,I mean the only thing you've used to justify the Obito theory is an already refuted assumption. As I said above not only did she have access to  Madara's eyes but she also was from the same clan as Nagato which would enable her to give him the eyes and /or to know he was going to be born.Do you have any better candidate for giving the eyes to Nagato?Do you know any other characters or clan in the series that use chains as a restraining technique on bijuus?
I will also defend the "They're both using chains" the Uzumaki clan was known for their seals and especially for restraining bijuus that is why I believe the chain is part of an Uzumaki restraining technique.
Post by sickVisionz (4,310 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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Well, unless you're saying Mito had the rinnegan, we can put this theory out to pasture. The chains were the only thing that even made it kinda sorta but not really make sense. Everything else was just that she was alive at the same time as Madara, which doesn't mean much since you don't have to be alive at the same time to find bodies as evidenced by Kabuto being way too young to be alive during the lifespans of most of the characters he used Edo Tensei on.

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