How could Madara lose to the First Hokage?

Topic started by hitsusatsu11 on June 27, 2010. Last post by Nerx 4 years ago.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,725 posts) See mini bio Level 20
How could the hax EMS wielded by Madara at his strongest, lose to a forest dude who controls trees.
Post by kira112 (1,066 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@hitsusatsu11:   that i dont understand,unless the first hokage figured out his weakness?
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,725 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@kira112: Must be. Maybe it had something to do with the Bijuu's. Bother Madara and First Hokage were said to have some kind of control over them. 
Post by Chengy (1,711 posts) See mini bio Level 17

Theres probably a lot more about the first hokage that we dont know now, He is a direct descendant of the Senju and the younger son of the sage of the six.
Post by kira112 (1,066 posts) See mini bio Level 9
well hopefully later on they cover it
Post by sickVisionz (4,234 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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I've always wondered this as well.  Sharringan abilities include: 
  •  Fire that burns through anything and lasts for like 5 days... including trees
  • The ability to transport people/items to alternate dimensions
  • The ability to torture people in alternate dimension where you control time and space
  • You can phase parts of your body to evade attack
  • You can see through any jutsu
  • You can copy almost any jutsu
  • You have super enhanced awareness and ability to read your opponents moves
  • You can cast crazy insane illusions like bursting your body into crows, growing multiple heads from a person or tricking them into using their own jutsu against themselves
  • A near impenetrable spirit shield
 
You have to be the worst ninja ever if you have all of that but you lose to a guy whose claim to fame is growing trees really fast.  I think the flashbacks were all BS.  Madara was just sitting on his butt all day eating hot dog ramen and never practicing or training.
Post by Kuma_From_Argentina (6,614 posts) See mini bio Level 13
I think the first Hokage was the creator of the enhancing of punches by chakra than Tsunades uses, so I theorize he could punch your ass to the Moon, he was much more powerful than Yamato using Mokuton and possibily his base ninja skillset was the s$%&...
Post by kira112 (1,066 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@sickVisionz: aye true but llook  at his face when he sees this 
 
 


Post by Acer (5,676 posts) See mini bio Level 11
He lost because he was weaker. Hashirama kicked his ass so bad, even after all these years he still hasen't fully recovered.
Post by kira112 (1,066 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@Acer:  so you think yamato will end up defeating him:P?
Post by Acer (5,676 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@kira112:  What does Yamato have to do with anything? It's already been proven that he's nowhere near Hashirama in terms of strength and overall abilities. I believe he admitted so himself. If he was he would have been a prime canditate to become the next hokage
Post by sickVisionz (4,234 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@Acer: Wasn't he a prime candidate to become the next Hokage and that's what they fought over?
Post by Acer (5,676 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@sickVisionz said:
" @Acer: Wasn't he a prime candidate to become the next Hokage and that's what they fought over? "
No I was talking about Yamato. Kira's commen t suggests that Yamato can defeat Madara because he has thewood release.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,725 posts) See mini bio Level 20
So latest chapter we know First had control over the Kyubi and this helped him somehow. 
Post by Nerx (13,843 posts) See mini bio Level 12
though he can't pull an attack when he's intangible and he sucked in danzo's men off guard
Post by rein (5,465 posts) See mini bio Level 15
It's very likely he has more jutsu then wood release.
If Not it could by that yamato doesn't have access to it's full power. (which he has admitted before)
Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Don't let Zombie first and 2nd hokages fool you, they are likely much more threatening when they where alive then when they where pawns by Orochimaru. Atleast the fourth made it sound last chapter that the 2nd apparently can teleport around too. :P
Post by Nerx (13,843 posts) See mini bio Level 12
His so called intangibility only works if he does not attack and apparently that portal only ports people into other places in the area , which means he ain't as tough as most people would assume
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