Has the Third Hokage been a disappointment?

Topic started by shiryu on Aug. 10, 2013. Last post by AFGM 10 months, 2 weeks ago.
Post by shiryu (58 posts) See mini bio Level 8

I have to say as a Hiruzen fan I am disappointed with what I've seen since he was revived by Orochimaru using Edo Tensei. I figured he might be a little more impressive and show off some jutsu that his poor stamina in Part 1 didn't allow him to use. Kishimoto made it seem as if Hiruzen was so impressive, having characters say he was once called the "God of Shinobi (a title now claimed by Hashirama instead)" and "the strongest kage of his time." Does anyone else feel the same way about this as I do? Feel free to share your responses below.

Post by xlab3000 (1,360 posts) See mini bio Level 10

he wasn't a disappointment IMO. he had defeated the edo kages and had nearly defeated Orochimaru. his fight against 9 tails was epic and he was able to against Obito(or Juubito)

Post by sickVisionz (4,233 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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I don't know. He was in a 3 vs 1 battle against Orochimaru and Infinite Chakra 1st and 2nd Hokage and he was kicking all three of their asses at once. Had it not been for Edo, the first and third would have been defeated early in that battle as he literally blew them in half with one jutsu. Even with those odds he still was able to stop all three. That's a pretty insane feat, especially considering that the 1st Hokage regularly beat the shit out of Madara and Madara is a god level fighter as seen when he single handidly beat a few hundred soldiers and all five Kages with ease.

Post by shiryu (58 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@xlab3000: @sickVisionz: Yeah, those are all valid points, and I also agree that Hiruzen's feat of defeating Orochimaru and the Edo Hokages was very impressive. But the only qualms I had with the fight Edo Hokages in Part 1 was that they didn't seem as crazily powerful as they've been shown to be in Part 2. Maybe it had something to do with Orochimaru's control over them, but I'm not really sure. Then again, why would Orochimaru make it so that Hashirama and Tobirama didn't use their strongest techniques against Hiruzen? I mean, Hashirama definitely could've used Sage Mode and Tobirama could've used his FTG. What do you guys think?

Post by phantomrant (1,289 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Hiruzen hasn't done anything other than contribute to putting up the Four Suns Barrier. The only other decent feat is him keeping up with Hashirama and Tobirama. Otherwise, yeah, he clearly does not live up to his hype as a Hokage.

Post by xlab3000 (1,360 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@shiryu: remember Hiruzen wasn't in his prime when he had fought the Edo Kages(weren't at full power). Orochimaru wasn't at full power either

Post by nishi99 (1,578 posts) See mini bio Level 11

So far yes Hiruzen has not lived up to the hype probably because Kishimoto didn't know how strong he should make the other Hokage yet when he was making part one.

Post by sickVisionz (4,233 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@xlab3000 said:

@shiryu: remember Hiruzen wasn't in his prime when he had fought the Edo Kages(weren't at full power). Orochimaru wasn't at full power either

That was as close to Orochimaru being at full power (assuming he wasn't) as we've ever seen him. In every other battle he's on the ground struggling and talking about how this body is starting to reject me.

Post by shiryu (58 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@nishi99: Ah, I see. Thank you.

Post by AFGM (136 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Hiruzen was a beast (Pre-shippuden)

Edo Hiruzen hasn't been portrayed as massive as he really is....so yes, it's a shame.

Post by bigz007 (1,088 posts) See mini bio Level 20

What about Hiruzen fighting Orochimaru, edo first hokage and edo second hokage at the same time? Is that a disappointment? That may be PIS but still, we have to consider it as canon.

Post by AFGM (136 posts) See mini bio Level 9

He's baaaack, let's hope the author truly makes the most out of Edo Hiruzen

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