Real Life Gundam

Topic started by Calaveras on March 1, 2009. Last post by HeeroYuy 5 years, 7 months ago.
Post by Calaveras (79 posts) See mini bio Level 1
Post by MoonStorm (360 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Well of course you could build on if you have enough money but I think the main problem with them IRL is the power supply. That and I think they will move too slow. Someone please prove me wrong.
Post by Nerx (13,843 posts) See mini bio Level 12
The new age cars
Post by HeeroYuy (1,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Oh boy... if only I had a dollar every time I hit a site that I frequent that someone referred to this old article...

Prime example: refer to this Japanator article and my comments in it.

To sum up what I said there and add on to it:

"According to the US Government a B2 Stealth bomber costs 2 BILLION dollars to build each currently, so this rooms plenty of room for labor and extra parts. Superconductive motors, sure, but gas turbine engines for 52 million each? and what kind of computer costs 1.55 million?? The super computers on the F35 aren't even half that much.

There is a serious flaw though with their method in using electricity to power it from gas turbines and using electric superconductors. HEAT.
According to my calculations, for a gundam to move at a rate of 60ft/s (assuming it's 60ft tall and roughly 20 tons of weight- 60ft/s then would be a brisk walk for it), it would take approximately 331811.8 Joules of force. Convert that to Watts by dividing by 1 second (since that’s how much power it would take to move 60ft/s for one second), and you get somewhere around 3 MEGAwatts. Even if you divide that up among several turbines, that level of electricity would fry any size wire you could make, or at least require it to be frozen to superconductive levels that'd be nearly impossible in such an environment.

Instead, a better method would be to use individual fuel cell systems installed at each joint or at least on a smaller individual system setup instead of one big power system, so that if one goes down all the others can still function, and in addition to taking a severe load off of any power system, you wouldn't need the massive would be cables that would otherwise be necessary, and leave more room for ammo and guns.

(As you may or may not be able to tell, I research and calculate this kind of stuff for fun- oh, and that stunt in the 5th episode of gundam 00 would've taken well over 300MW of power for Kyrios to push a block roughly 100 times the gundams size- current day full size 4th generation nuclear reactors can barely output that much)
"

After researching further since then, I believe a solid oxide fuel cell system would give the optimal power, durability, and efficiency that we would need for such a project.

"I can honestly say, this is the goal that brought me into engineering, so I have done alot of work on this sort of thing. As for physics computations and the type of stress on the tendon sheets for balancing, assuming they use the same ratio of strength to height that is in human beings, there's no reason that aluminum alloys with over 40 times the strength load to weight ratio wouldn't be able to handle it. As for balancing, there are already several examples of dynamically balancing robots on two legs out there (Dynamically balancing means it can walk in a similar way real people do by reacting to shifts in weight and forces - NOT pre-programmed leg movements like say the Honda Asimo). The entire concept is very possible, the issue is it's not very practical, at least for most uses anyway. Something along the lines of an Arm Slave would be alot more practical for military use, but Gundams just look so much cooler.

What bugs me about their calculations is they're thinking from a government price index perspective. You don't need the best most advanced computer in the world, you just need one that's plenty fast enough and extremely durable. Heck, for the kind of computations something that you'd need for something like this, a cluster of 4 quad-core processor computers would be OVERKILL. Just build those inside individually reinforced cases and strengthen the parts for movement and shaking and you've got a great computer that'd cost less than a fraction of a Blue gene IBM machine, not to mention being a heck of a lot more reliable if it takes a hit (in a cluster if one dies you can just switch to using the others). You could say similar things about the other stuff on the list too."

Fair warning, I wrote this over a year ago.
Post by lordhaseo (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 7
actionaly its called MEACHA if its going to be real!
Post by Black_Rose (1,204 posts) See mini bio Level 11
They should definitely make one, with all the mone US spends in weaponry for themselves and countries like Colombia and Israel they have to at least make a cool looking one. And that, my friends, is a Gundam.
Post by Calaveras (79 posts) See mini bio Level 1
Black_Rose said:
"They should definitely make one, with all the mone US spends in weaponry for themselves and countries like Colombia and Israel they have to at least make a cool looking one. And that, my friends, is a Gundam.
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eh...no. just no lol
Post by Devilly (5,329 posts) See mini bio Level 10
I`ve seen those gundam pics like two years ago lol
Post by HeeroYuy (1,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Yeah, they've been around a while Devilly. And Calaveras, I don't think Black Rose is too far off.

Heck, a Gundam in today's world would pretty much be able to replace an entire tank battalion, or at least an entire squadron of bombers. You're basically looking at a walking land-based battleship, complete with fully automatic 150mm cannon(s).
Post by Calaveras (79 posts) See mini bio Level 1
And where are you going to afford the money? Not to mention almost all the countries are trillions of dollars in debt and building a war machine that clearly states DEATH is going to certainly upset the society....and lets not even go near the anti war protests. Protesters against sending soldiers to iraq is going to seem like a crowd of gatherers for a simple picnic compared to this.

Not to mention a human sitting in a giant machine that walks would cause too many side effects like upset stomach, queasiness, barfing and other little side effects.


Post by Agent_Lost (1,124 posts) See mini bio Level 10
Calaveras said:
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http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/0...ife-gunda.html

http://www.pinktentacle.com/2008/01/725000000-gundam/

Now all they need is a rich guy with too much time on his hands. 
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oh why, oh why am I seeing the Virgin logo on the side of the Gundam
Post by lordhaseo (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 7
most likly it would be 20 to 25 years to make it go in combat!
Post by HeeroYuy (1,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12
I don't understand why people would protest a machine that would make it so a team of 20 soldiers (mechanics mostly) could do the work of several tank battalions... or at the very least the country sending the soldiers (like the US) wouldn't be able to complain anymore about deploying so many troops.

Also, if you read my first post, the price of ONE B2 stealth bomber is nearly 3 times as much ($2 Billion) as that bloated estimated price of a mobile suit.
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