Who Do You Hate the Most in JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE?

Topic started by No_name_here on July 23, 2014. Last post by zaldar 1 month, 1 week ago.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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At the least, I’m sure the translation team is getting their jollies, every single time they have to pick an evocative-by-legally-distinct codename for these villains. ‘Dan of Steel’ is very near delightful in how obfuscating it is.

Anyway, probably the best lesson Araki seems to have taken over from FIST OF THE NORTH STAR is that he makes sure each villain is as reprehensible as they can be. Steely Dan here isn’t a cool villain. He’s not fun to be watch. He’s a weasel who cheats to get ahead. It’s aggravating to see him on screen. The Lovers’ voodoo doll ‘sympathetic pain’ gimmick isn’t as flashy as previous Stand users’ powers, either. It doesn’t sound that interesting on paper, but it really makes you hate Dan more than any possessed doll or smoke spirit might. There’s just something especially odious and cowardly about a heel who’s going to twist the hero’s brawn against him instead of fighting his own battles.

And again, that’s precisely the point. A mangaka might feel the temptation to make him too likable.

Another way Araki’s showing some great patience as a storyteller is that he’s taken all these episodes to build Dio’s threat level up again. Honestly, I was a little disappointed initially that we’d be seeing a Big Bad repeat for this arc, but I get the sense that he was expecting that disappointment. Not only have we been introduced to more new villains than we met through the entirety of the first two arcs, each one has been steadily putting his master over.

Has it been too long since that awful incident with Jojo #1’s father? Do you not hate Dio’s as much anymore? Well, here’s this old lady who’s so hopelessly devoted to him, she doesn’t recognize his betrayal, even when he’s having her murdered. For Big Bad who hasn’t been on screen much for over a dozen episodes, Dio’s really re-earned plenty of our boo’s and hisses.

Watch "Lovers Part 1" and decide for yourself, then read my comments on the previous episode.

Post by Lurkero (408 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Dio is one-dimensional and not to my liking as a villain, but Araki knows how to make it work. There is no way to find redeeming qualities in Dio since day 1. Just wanna see him die so bad.

Post by Marshal Victory (2,209 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Dio should die in a trash furnace. Karma an all.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,939 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Surprised to see Dio hate, I think he is one of the better fictional villains.

Post by rubberluffy (589 posts) See mini bio Level 16

@Lurkero said:

Dio is one-dimensional and not to my liking as a villain, but Araki knows how to make it work. There is no way to find redeeming qualities in Dio since day 1. Just wanna see him die so bad.

Dio is pretty much one of the most popular and influential villains in manga/anime. Sometimes it's nice to just have a villain be a villain. No sad backstory or anything. Dio was an asshole -before- any of the Vampire or Stand stuff happened. For any missteps Araki makes, his main villains in each part tend to be pretty great (excepting maybe Part 5, but there's still some great stuff there too).

And Steely Dan is one of the most hilariously douchey villains in all of JoJo. He's so pathetic but goddamn is he easy to hate.

Post by takashichea (12,274 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@Lurkero:

I prefer the one dimensional villain Dio over the tragic villains in Naruto. To be honest, I'm sick of tragic villains. I seen terrible one dimensional villains in Sword Art Online because their motives are stupid. First one forgot why he caused so many lives lost and the other wanted to NTR the main hero.

Dio is just doing this to get back at the Joestar family. I liked him a lot in episode 1. He did so many bad things to our hero in one episode than any other villain I saw.

Post by YotaruVegeta (578 posts) See mini bio Level 12

I'm not a fan of Crunchyroll "getting their jollies" Keep the names straight!

I think that Enyaba's son, J. Giles, was the worst so far. What an annoying prick.

Post by zaldar (1,264 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@Marshal Victory said:

Dio should die in a trash furnace. Karma an all.

Oh for a like button. I couldn't agree more. He is a terrible terrible man. So no comment on the old 80's movies where people went inside anothers body. Where those before your time....even I don't remember there titles now sigh....

Post by Marshal Victory (2,209 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@zaldar: Ya mean like The Exorcist (1973) The Shining (1980) The Evil Dead (1981) / Evil Dead 2 (1987)The Amityville Horror (1979)Prince of Darkness (1987)

Burnt Offerings (1976) Or do ya mean not possession but shrinking movies like Honey, I Shrunk the Kids (1989) kinda fits tho Innerspace (1987) is that to a t. Tho

Fantastic Voyage (1966) is kind of the great grand father for that sub gene.

Side Note: take it your studies for the big test are going well?

Post by zaldar (1,264 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Inner space was what I meant yes along with fantastic voyage....

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