Weekly Guilty Crown Report Ep 12 ~ Lost Christmas

Topic started by KuroNekoXIII on Jan. 16, 2012. Last post by KuroNekoXIII 2 years, 5 months ago.
Post by KuroNekoXIII (427 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Overview

Hello Vicers! I haven't created a blog post since 2011, so I'll start off by wishing ya'll a happy new year :) This episode was jam-packed with loads of info and action, so sit tight and get ready for the fun to get started :)

Before I start, please note that this is NOT the last episode of Guilty Crown. Lots of people are thinking that since the original run for the anime was only going to be 11 episodes, but they have extended the series to span the anime winter season as well. So it ain't the end yet guys and gals!

Now without any further ado, I present to you Guilty Crown Episode 12 - The Lost Christmas

Plot Synopsis

The Lost Christmas: - 再誕 Saitan

Inori has been abducted by a mysterious ally of Keido Shuichirou, and also possesses The King's Power. Their planning on undergoing a secret ritual to recreate the events of The Lost Christmas, and the spread of The Apocalypse Virus. In order for Shu to save Inori, he must retrieve his lost memories of the events that occurred on December 24th, 2029. Light will finally be shed on Shu's past, his relationship with the mysterious pink-haired girl, and how his child self was once acquainted with Gai.

Verdict

Beware of Spoilers after this point!!!

Good

We learn a lot about Shu and Gai's past, and what their relationship is with the pink-haired girl.

We also learn a bit about Gai and Shu's past characteristics and personalities.

Shu and Gai - Best Friends
Shu and Gai - Best Friends

Bad

Taboo alert!!!
Taboo alert!!!

The plot was too rushed!!! There was just too much info spewed out. They should've split this episode into at least two episodes: one dedicated to Shu and Gai's childhood; and the second to when Shu saves Inori and Gai saves Mana. I wont get into too many details, I'll leave that for the "Open Floor Session" below.

INCEST!!!!! I was very disturbed by the whole older-sister-kissing-younger-brother thing. I've read on the web that there could be a chance that she was adopted. We'll see......

So one of the symptoms of the Apocalypse Virus is turning you into a pedophile......?
So one of the symptoms of the Apocalypse Virus is turning you into a pedophile......?

Another part that I found quite disturbing was when Mana (pink-haired girl) seemed to have practically sexually assaulted young Gai...they dont really show it but the fact that the kid was tied up and partially stripped down by Mana kinda explains a lot.....

Points of Interest

Mana Ouma
Mana Ouma

The pink-haired girl is revealed to be Shu Ouma's older sister, and her name is Mana Ouma

Mana Ouma was the first to touch "the rock that started it all", and thus, was the first to be diagnosed with the Apocalypse Virus

Gai points out that Haruka Ouma is Shu's "new" mother. Perhaps she is not his biological mother, and that's why Shu calls her by her first name

Child Gai points out to Mana that the Apocalypse Virus drives people insane

Gai's Void is a gun that functions both as a gun and it draws out people's Voids

Open Floor Session

Alright, I have a couple of questions for you below that I'd like to hear your opinions on (You don't have to answer them all....answer the ones you feel like :D). I'll put in my results in a spoiler alert so you guys wont be influenced by my opinion.

  • How did you find the speed of this episode? (i.e. too rushed? Too slow? Just right?...etc)
Like I mentioned above, this episode was TOO RUSHED!!!! Heck, they crammed three character origin stories in one episode: Shu, Gai, and Mana. And not only that, but there was also them explaining the whole "Lost Christmas" event, and the entire wedding thing between Keido and Inori. If I were producing this episode, I would've split this episode to at least two.
  • How did you take in Gai's death? (i.e. very moved; saw it coming; etc....).

My initial reaction to Gai's death can be summed up in three letters: WTH? I didn't like how Gai's death was played out. First off, by the fact that he "came back" by the cancer crystals, then dies right after made the impact of his death less dramatic. I honestly think that Gai's character deserved much more than that. Also, I think there should've been more depth to his origin story, so that it would increase our empathy and thus our sympathy after he dies.

I hope they do include some more on his origin. I guess by getting Gai out of the way, Shu would be able to grow to fill in for his shoes. We'll have to wait and see.

  • What was your impression on Mana? Was she how you thought she'd be?
When I first learned that she's Shu's sister I was like "Woooaah ! What??!" I didnt see that coming. As for character, her initial personality in the episode was what I thought she'd be like, but when she started getting all psycho on us, I was baffled.
  • What are your unanswered questions?

(I wont post mine yet....I'll fill this in with your questions first)

Thanks!!!

Thanks for checking out this report guys and girls! I'd like to give a special thank you to Takashichea who did an awesome job around the Guilty Crown wiki pages. Thanks a bunch partner, and I owe you one!

Please check out other works done by Vicers this week!

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That's it from me Vicers! See you later, and peace!

KuroNekoXIII (KuroNeko, Neko, Kuro.. Call me whatever floats your boat :D )

Member of Team W.I.K.I Nation and Guilty Crown

Post by takashichea (10,872 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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Best yet Creepy Quote

Mana: Let's use our genes to make a new world.

Shock*

I didn't knew Gai was raped by Mana. You could put that on the Implied Sex Scene.

I finally know why Mana and Inori do that knot thing. It's to "tie" the knot.

I know what Inori's gesture means!
I know what Inori's gesture means!
Post by KuroNekoXIII (427 posts) See mini bio Level 14

@takashichea:

Yea that quote is pretty strong, I'm not gonna lie.

Gai was raped by Mana.

It didnt quite catch it when I first watched the episode, but after re-watching it and noticed how Gai seemed to be missing clothing, it filled in the blanks.

@takashichea said:

I know what Inori's gesture means!
I know what Inori's gesture means!

I finally know why Mana and Inori do that knot thing. It's to "tie" the knot.

OHHHH! I didn't make that connection! Good eye dude!

EDIT: Yo dude, I think you should add your quote to the episode page, it's an important one to the series IMO and I think it should be on there :)

Post by takashichea (10,872 posts) See mini bio Level 25
Moderator

I forgot about your questions.

  1. Episode was rushed. For improvements, devote more time to the flashbacks. I wanted to find out how Gai went from "Shu" wimpy state to cool guy.
  2. Did not expect Gai to die because he's one of the main characters. Without Gai, how does Guilty Crown fare. He reminds me of Archer in Fate Stay Night. Bad ass guy dies, and the show gets a bit boring except that Saber's story kept me hooked on.
  3. I pictured Mana as an innocent girl. I had no idea how twisted she was especially to Gai. I wondered why Gai look forward to dying with Mana.
Post by KuroNekoXIII (427 posts) See mini bio Level 14

@takashichea: No worries man :D

Yea, I was hoping for more time to be devoted to Gai's back story. I'm hoping they air stuff about him later on.

Without Gai, how does Guilty Crown fare

I think the main reason they did that was to allow Shu to grow. Since Shu always thinks that he'd never be like Gai, he gives himself excuses to not do anything and to stay whimpy. Now that Gai's gone, and there is no Funeral Parlor leader, Shu will be forced to grow up and fill in for Gai's shoes; the same way little Gai did.

LOL yea Mana was pretty creepy, i didnt see that one coming. I guess Gai did like her for who she was before the virus made her go crazy, and since she did cry for help on the Lost Christmas day to both Shu and Gai, I guess he felt obliged to save her.

Post by AgentJ (1,545 posts) See mini bio Level 13

The show was supposed to be 11 episodes originally? It shows. The pacing has been wonky since the beginning, with weird plot developments throughout. I wonder if it wouldn't have been better to stick with a single season.

Post by KuroNekoXIII (427 posts) See mini bio Level 14

@AgentJ: Yea it was originally meant to be 12 episodes long, but was extended to 24 I believe. I agree, the plot lines of the series are somewhat difficult to follow at times. Have you watched the second season? I think that the second season has an easier plot line to follow.

Post by AgentJ (1,545 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@KuroNekoXIII said:

@AgentJ: Yea it was originally meant to be 12 episodes long, but was extended to 24 I believe. I agree, the plot lines of the series are somewhat difficult to follow at times. Have you watched the second season? I think that the second season has an easier plot line to follow.

That may be, but there's a ton of "deus ex machina" cropping up in the later episodes (just watched 12-16). Most prevalent were where they suddenly got television service back, despite a blackout, just in time for the main characters to learn of important news. Which, fine, maybe that was the plan of those on the outside (though it wouldn't make much sense in context) but then the school got internet access, but just within the school, so that the characters could learn how bad a job everyone thinks the class rep is doing. It's like Naruto techniques; "Oh, you have that ability? Well, I'm sure lucky I have the perfect technique to counter that!"

My opinion of the show is this; I like all of the pieces, but the way they are put together is entirely wrong. I SHOULD love this show. But it finds a new way to bug me seemingly every week.

Post by KuroNekoXIII (427 posts) See mini bio Level 14

@AgentJ: Yea I catch your drift. You got a point about the tv connection suddenly coming back, it isnt credible but I'm thinking the producers didn't want a lag-time between the characters in the Loop to know what's actually going in the outside world. Also, if you think of it from the point of the people watching the anime, it'll be irritating knowing that there is something being planned out by the higher-ups that the students dont know about. So I guess the "deus ex machina" is their way to keep the story going (I'm not saying its the best tactic to move on with the plot...)

My opinion of the show is this; I like all of the pieces, but the way they are put together is entirely wrong. I SHOULD love this show. But it finds a new way to bug me seemingly every week.

I agree with you on that one. I think that if they actually took the time to thoroughly explain the character relationships and characters, it would much easier to follow. Perhaps they want to use it as an element of suspense, but I think people are just getting lost trying to follow. An example of that is that "Daath" character; I think they should elaborate more about him, seeing that he keeps making more character appearances.

Thanks for commenting AgentJ! I'd suggest you bring forth your opinion in the Weekly Guilty Crown Weekly episode reports on the Guilty Crown forums. We dont get much people sharing what they think about the series, and I think it'll be a great opportunity for the active fans of GC to read your opinion.

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