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I have never had the most positive opinion of Dragon Ball Z. My experience with the series was initially restricted to the first 16 episodes of Vegeta’s invasion of earth, at which point I somewhat lost interest.

Backtracking for no particular reason (that I can remember), I encountered Dragon Ball, Toriyama’s original series, and loved its quirkiness enough to give its sequel another go; I went as far as the Freeza saga before finally calling its quits.

Before today, my thoughts on Dragon ball as a franchise (precluding the original Dragon Ball) pretty much aligned with those of the numerous DBZ haters the internet has been known to produce, most of whom cannot stand its exaggerated tropes.

Again, that was before today, before I actually saw Dragon Ball Kai, a series that just might have transformed my entire outlook on Akira Toriyama’s story, so much so that it somehow compelled me to take a closer look at Fairy Tail.

DRAGON BALL KAI
My first encounter with Dragon Ball Kai began with Gohan and his journey to school upon the back of his nimbus cloud. I knew something was terribly wrong almost immediately.

It wasn’t just the quirkiness of watching Gohan bring justice to the streets in his silly Saiyaman costume but the miraculous and rather casual return of the twice (thrice?) dead Goku and even the manner in which the confrontation with Babiddi and his minions played out.

Basically every thought I had ever had about just how campy, cheesy and cliché’ Dragonball Z could become seemed to manifest in the 17 or so episodes of Dragonball Kai I watched.

And it was awesome; a reaction that my brain couldn’t quite explain and which, even now, I can’t help but presume might have been a fluke on the part of this specific set of episodes.

+THE PLOT:
Fighters from all around the world are summoned to partake in a test of skill and strength in the World Martial Arts Tournament; when an ancient and malevolent evil threatens the world, the strongest among them all will rise to defend their home against the dark machinations of a power hungry sorcerer.

+REVIEW:
I don’t know if that plot description does this series justice, at least as far as the episodes I watched are concerned; because, to an extent, Kai had so much more going for it than that particular synopsis describes, even while doing so little in the same breath.

-The characters
DB Kai’s characters single handedly sold the show to me; I know the series is just DBZ re-mastered but I do not remember enjoying the DBZ cast this much in my original encounter with the universe.

Kai’s cast is energetic and full of life, bringing less depth of story and more fun and excitement. I was especially taken by Trunks and Goten, whose rivalry was an interesting and light hearted take upon the conflict between their fathers.

Mr. Satan was infinitely humorous, not only in his show of cowardice but the various interactions he had with his daughter Videl and her new comrades; and Gohan, I was caught a little off guard by his age, seeing as the last time I saw him, he was off training with Picollo in preparation for Vegeta’s arrival, and doing more crying than actual fighting.

Considering his curret power and age, one does question the decision to bring Goku back to the fold; with the younger cast finally burgeoning and having come into their own, it would have made more sense to bury the past and all its heroes, making way for the new generation (like most shonen tries to do).

And any nostalgia among fans that cannot see a dragonball  universe without Goku could have been easily satiated with Goten, a Goku facsimile if there ever was one and the perfect opportunity to inject the innocence of DragonBall back into the aging series.

None the less I can’t complain, because even Goku’s presence aided rather than harmed this arc.

-The Story
‘What Story?"’ is what I would have said about Dragon Ball in the past, and speaking truthfully that hasn’t changed. That is what my brain is struggling to reconcile about Dragon Ball Kai.

The majority of the elements that this show uses I have spent considerable time complaining about and raging against in various other anime; these tropes, the cheesy execution of plots, the somewhat messy pacing, I should have been screaming (at least internally) at Dragon Ball Kai as I watched it.

And my brain struggled to remind me of how much I hated this sort of story execution in other anime, how many manga had irritated me by telling the exact sort of story that was playing out in Dragon Ball Kai.

And maybe there is a genius element to all this, a secret technique to presenting this material in a way that, rather than infuriate, immensely entertained me. I can’t even compare Kai to the original DBZ because I didn’t watch this arc in the original format.

Which means I cannot quite determine if Dragon Ball Kai actually does something different from original, or if this arc was just as entertaining in the original Dragon Ball Z.

Whatever case, the arc promised a fun filled story told within the setting of explosive battles at a tournament, followed by the arrival of an ancient evil, and it managed to entertain in every way.

The actual battles were engaging and the conversations revealed enough snippets of information to provide an idea of previous story lines and arcs that might prove relevant at the present.

-The action
You cannot talk about Dragon Ball without mentioning the action; and for a series as old as this, it is surprising just how dynamic and not stale the action is.

One of the reasons that tend to attract me to Naruto is the series’ unique collection of action scenes, usually so much more than a punch/kick/punch/kick approach. Probably because their fairly unreliable levels of durability (at least in comparison to One Piece and Bleach), fight scenes in Naruto are typically dynamic primarily because of the caution each character injects into his or her actions on the battlefield.

And in a series where a kunai to the throat can bring even the strongest enemies to their knees, it makes sense that the fights would progress fairly slowly, with each step planned, well thought out and executed with thorough forethought. 

Dragon Ball Kai reminded me of Naruto, not on its pacing but the variations that it infused within each fight scene; for a series this old, I expected several minutes worth of characters blurring about each other, and throwing endless flurries of invisible fists and kicks at each other.

As such it was surprising how almost grounded the fighting was, at least within the tournament setting, the moves varying with the passing of time, making even the long winded battles worth watching.

Again, I cannot tell if this is the effect of Dragon Ball Kai or if the original series actually got his good. Whatever the case, I could watch these aliens beat the daylights out of each other all day.

And did I mention how awesome Trunks and Goten were.

+VERDICT:
Dragon Ball Kai is fun, and it is the fact that it doesn’t take itself seriously that makes this arc work so well. Yes, it is silly to an extent, yet the show chooses to not only accept but utilize that silliness to great effect.

Dragon Ball Kai, or at least his arc, is the sort of show you can watch on a lazy Saturday, where nothing particular piques you interest and you simply wish to immerse yourself in a little bit of light fun.

+RATING: 8/10, I am still in awe. The idea that I could enjoy Dragon Ball Kai this much still baffles me. Again, I am not quite certain if it is this arc in particular that is simply that entertaining, or if the rest of the series maintains this same quality of fun.

Barely halfway through this saga, I cannot rule out the possibility of finding disappointment once I finally push through the rest of the arc, Here’s to hopping that the series maintains this same quality.

And who knows. I just might decide to backtrack and catch up on the entire series, starting from the Frieza finale onwards.

THE FAIRY TAIL COMPARISON
IN the few short years that I have been reading and watching Fairy Tail, it never crossed my mind to juxtapose Fairy Tail against Dragon Ball regarding any of its incarnations; not only because my experience with Dragon Ball was limited, but the two series, well, they don’t really have anything in common outside of basic shonen tropes.

Dragon Ball Kai didn’t change that perspective; what it did was allow me to understand the potential that lay within Fairy Tail’s structure, or rather all it could be.

Don’t get me wrong; while I am not as big a Fairy Tail Fan as I once was, I have reached a place where I can appreciate it, where the story telling decisions made do not infuriate me quite as much.

That being said, I cannot ignore the manga’s many flaws. Simply put, Fairy Tail doesn’t know what it should be, or even wants to be; straying back and forth between light hearted tones and very dark concepts, I have been accused before of failing to appreciate the story for what it is: simplistic, comedic, action packed and Ecci.

And the claim is this: if I could only understand the fact that Fairy Tail wasn’t the dark and heavy series I want it to be, I would enjoy it. 

To an extent that is true, but the fault for any confusion on my part with regards to the sort of manga I am reading falls solely on the shoulders of Hiro Mashima; I take Fairy Tail more seriously than it deserves because that is the tone the story has always presented mostly dark and only breaking out the fun and happy stuff at the end of its arcs.

As I was watching Dragonball Kai I couldn’t help but think of Fairy Tail. Because Kai knows what it is, or should be, and makes optimum use of its assets. People like to make excuses for really bad entertainment; think of all those movies that want us to believe they are terrible on purpose, just so they can qualify for the ‘So bad they are good’ Category.

Dragon Ball Kai isn’t bad per say; but it is campy and very cheesy, the sort of cheesiness that so many tried to convince me was intentional and which I disputed as desperate excuses until today.

Clearly Toriyama knew what he was doing, because Kai spends more time making fun of itself than I thought possible. There is a perfect balance between the dark and light elements. And at no point does the story get so serious that you forget what Dragon Ball is meant to be.

This is what Fairy Tail should be; if its so determined to follow its lighthearted side, then why not stick to it, play the strengths that a story within such a genre affords, the way Kai does its thing.

Kai doesn’t as much narrate its story as it does simply play with the plots, throwing characters about, the result being a surprisingly fun filled experience. At the end of the day Kai makes it so it doesn’t matter how its arcs unfold, how the various battles finish or who wins at the end. 

It is all about the journey. And in that regard it can get away with all the ludicrous power-ups it wishes to invent. Because, at the end of the day, the focus on creating a fun filled experience is never lost.

Fairy Tail is a somewhat dark and action packed shonen series that wants to do lighthearted comedy and ecci; and in that regard it fails, because it creates expectations for plot progressions down the sort of murky paths that never payoff the way they should.

It would benefit from not taking itself too seriously. While it isn’t quite terrible, despite having some terrible moments (Because she’s Erza? Really Hiro?) Fairy Tail could truly come into its own, become a true contender for the top spot if only it was less of an overly emotional series, dark and action packed, yet sort of comedic and silly, and instead truly embraced its light and fun side.
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I don’t know what to expect from the new Dragon ball movie. A part of me doesn’t see what all the hype is about, after all aren’t we in for the same old ride? A new villain approaches earth, the Z warriors train for a couple of years only to get their behinds handed to them while holding the enemy off long enough for Goku to arrive on the scene and take him down, with a new SSJ of course. I don’t get what otaku, especially DBZ fans are all so hyped about. Another part of me will admit to possessing some excitement over the prospect of watching this movie. After all, its dragon ball, and at the very least, it will be an entertaining action packed few hours.
I have heard the news, that Akira intends to push out 11 more movies, primarily focusing on the other 11 gods, each of which is more menacing and more powerful than Bils. I don’t really care about that; i expect that they, like the most recent movie, will be entertaining. What i have a problem with is the news that Akira intends to write and produce another 200 episode dragon ball series. All i can say is,WHY?
I will not rant on about how bad and possibly unnecessary that decision is. Rather i will get down to the point, three reasons why i think, if he really does produce it, this new soon to be series of dragon ball will not be successful.
1. Akira Toriyama:> I will not deny that the man has some creative skill, i am not denying that he will be able to churn out 200 more episodes of dragon ball; what i am doubting is his ability to churn out 200 episodes of dragon ball that will be on par with modern anime and manga. I do not know whether Akira has caught up with the modern age age of anime. Mindless battles and endless power ups were all good back in the day, but the level of sophistication that (most) anime require to achieve success is quite high, at least higher than DBZ/GT has ever achieved. We are living in a day where anime must possess deep plots and complex characters to achieve success. And DBZ was anything but story oriented. I do not think that Akira has adapted to the change that has occurred in anime; that might sound like an insult to him but i believe it none the less.
A look at all the recent DBZ movies that came before the recent one prove this fact, that even after so many years since DBZ/GT ended, Akira is still following the same old concepts with movies released and written as late as 2005. Akira will have to evolve to create a new series in DBZ that will capture the minds of all those otaku, the majority of which do not understand the idea behind watching a show as mindless as DBZ. I don’t believe Akira, however good a story teller he is, can adapt to new trends in anime.
2. No More Story:> I love 24. it is one of my all time favorite shows. I only jumped on the band wagon as the series entered its fifth Season and i followed it through out its run. I dropped in and out at some point as the plots got a little…strange, but i jumped right back into it during its season 6 run, fully enjoyed the new direction is went in season 7 and absolutely loved its finale in season 8. I wanted more 24, but it came to an end. WHY? Not because it was canceled, not because of ratings or a dwindling fan base. 24 wasn’t forced to come to an end. It had to come to an end. And that was because 24 and [the awesome] jack Bauer had ran their course. The show had been thrown down every single path and alleyway it could take story wise while staying within the boundaries of the original concept and after 8 seasons, there was no more. The story had reached its apex and there was simply no more road. Sure they could have forced it to continue but that would have absolutely ruined it, the way so many other shows have been ruined over time by being forced to continue beyond their logical run.
What does that have to do with DBZ? Well, it is in the same boat. I believe it has ran is course and Akira has thrown every single absurd idea that could still work out into the world and that’s it. I loved Dragon ball and that’s saying something, because i only watched it two years ago. That shows the quality of a series, that i can watch it, for the very first time, decades after it ended and it is just a good (and hilarious). DBZ was…i will tentatively say great. But no one can deny the fact that it was no where near as good as dragon ball. Akira came to the end of dragon ball and morphed it into something different. He pushed it beyond where it could go and began down a new road with DBZ. But with DBZ i believed he exhausted every plot he could while staying within reason. HE squeezed all the juice out of the lemon, which is why it began to get a little absurd near the end. None the less it was impressive that he could push it so far. But it is over.
Dragon ball GT is an example of what happens when Akira doesn’t want to believe the lemon is out of juice and then tries to consume the shell as well. I will not say that GT sucked because technically i didn’t watch it. I went as far as 7 episodes in and felt…dismayed. I would have given in there and then, but i was that determined to catch a glimpse of the SSJ4 transformation that i had heard so much about; so i skipped a few dozen episodes ahead, knowing that this being dragon ball, it wouldn’t be hard to catch up. i tried another 7-12 episodes and…it was…unfortunate viewing.
But i will not say it sucked because i didn’t actually watch it, just simply chose to give up on seeing SSJ4. None the less Akira tried to push DBZ beyond its expiry date and he failed. Same goes for this new series of his. What exactly is he going to do that will be new? How will he wow or surprise us? There is no more story left to tell and everything he does will simply be a shell of DBZ, a shell worse than even GT.
3. Change:> let us say i am wrong about the first two points, that Akira can adapt enough of new anime concepts to inject some sophistication story and plot wise into dragon ball and he can actually generate some new material for the show. It still won’t work.WHY? Because to do any of that, he will have to go in a completely new direction. The result will be something that will barely look like dragon ball, barely act like dragon ball, and will definitely not be dragon ball. It will be a new show. die hard fans that have followed dragon ball all this time and would even suffer through the new series only because it is the same old dragon ball of their childhood, the dragon ball that, to them, did things just right, will drop off because it will no longer be dragon ball. I doubt Akira will be able to adapt to new concepts enough to make that drastic a change, so the result will still bare enough traces of dragon ball, enough to repel new fans.
So i have made it clear that i don’t think this new dragon ball series will work. But in the case that Akira is really interested in making his new project a success then there are three particular points that i think he would have to change to make this happen:
1. The Dragon balls- These objects are too powerful, they are basically a master key to the universe and all its powers. They are simply too powerful and are too easy a solution to anything and everything that they might come across, that most if not all threats become pointless. There was a time when the
introduction of a villain that could destroy the world meant so0mething, when it brought an exciting charge into the story and changed all the stakes on the table. That no longer matters; be it Frieza, cell or even Bils himself, it does matter how much destructive power they have so long as Goku has a device that can undo anything and everything negative that might occur from a battle, be it the destruction of the world or the death of a character.
Akira needs to eliminate these objects if he is to once more raise the stakes of a battle. We need to know that when Goku enters the battle field to fend of an enemy, there are some permanent, non erasable stakes in play, consequences that might permanently devastate the world if he were to lose. I don’t see an acceptable series coming out of Akira with the dragon balls still operational. I know it is called dragon ball, but none the less, they are too powerful.
2. Death- What is the point of executing a poignant death scene if the character is only going to return to life when earth is threatened. There was a point in DBZ where it became quite clear that Goku was earth’s mightiest hero and its only hope against evil. When he perished, it became a question of how our heroes would defend earth without their most powerful gun, and that added some excitement to the story while also raising the stakes. Then Goku began returning from heaven regularly to aid his son and friends in the battle against evil and it began to get tiring. An anime needs the finality of death to enhance the level of threat introduced by a powerful foe. If Akira wants to have even a modicum of success he will have to make any and all death final.
There was a point in DBZ where that seemed to be the case, but that as before the team began discovering and acquiring different types of dragon balls that could break the rules that Akira had already set up earlier on, which by the way instilled some logic to the series, at the time anyway. Akira needs to get serious with death, otherwise why should we care how strong an enemy is.
3. Power levels- really, Akira’s biggest failure is the mess he created with his whacky power levels. He needs to destroy the entire structure of power he created and begin anew. The way DBZ worked, the reason it was so mindless, was because Akira structured it in a way that it was always too easy for him to write himself into a corner. And in writing himself out of that hole, he would only begin down a path to an even bigger hole. Basically to defeat an enemy, Goku would have to achieve a new power level. But this power level, while more than capable of defeating the enemy, would be so powerful by the end of saga that Akira would be left with the problem of creating an even more powerful enemy to challenge Goku in the next saga, which i believe he achieved by sacrificing story.
The problem of course is that in the next saga, the enemy wouldn't just be more powerful; rather Akira would make him so powerful that now even Goku can’t compete. So Akira simply repeats the cycle, with Goku continuously powering up to achieve a new power level until there is simply no enemy left to challenge him, or their shouldn’t be. But that would mean ending the series, so Akira goes into absurd areas and invents really weird plots like turning Goku into a child. But really you can see where that cycle will end. By the end, the only enemies capable of challenging Goku (logically at least) would be universe busting level opponents, and of course when he finally achieves even that new power level, there will literally be no where left for him to go, no enemy left to fight. But of course Akira can create even more absurd enemies to fight, maybe entire universes coming to life or…you get where i am going with this.
If Akira watched modern anime, he will know that when a shonen hero is faced with a challenging foe, he should use every ability and strategy in his arsenal to overcome the overwhelming odds. Goku can’t keep leveling up each time he comes up against a tough enemy. it’s ridiculous and gets me thinking that that is all he can do, find another SSJ level whenever things get tough. I thought DBZ was a martial arts series, which means it should try and focus more on the martial arts and less on the power.
4. Characters- Really, it is infuriating just how Akira will misuse or ignore most of his characters. I tried to pause and count the exact number of arcs in DBZ during which Krillin, Yamcha, Tien and the rest would train for a considerable amount of time to face an opponen
t only to get
destroyed easily, while waiting for Goku to show up and save the day. Akira needs to use all his characters equally, or as much as is possible, and see to it that he utilizes them at least half as much as goku. He simply ignores there development. Someone might say that the likes of krillin ad Tien clearly get considerable amounts of screen time and thus are more than utilized. To that i would say, yes they are utilized, but they don’t matter. To give an element in anime screen time yet it doesn’t matter in the long run is what i call filler. Krillin, tien, yamcha and Chaoutzu were basically filler characters for most of DBZ. Why show us all that training only for it to mean absolutely nothing? And that happens over and over again. They always train, then show off by sparring with Piccolo, which is Akira’s way of showing us just how strong they have become because he knows they won’t do a thing against the actual threat.
I was actually quite appalled when DBZ reached a point when even Piccollo, PICCOLO OF ALL PEAOPLE, pretty much stopped mattering in the overall picture. Dragon ball managed to balance goku and Krillin’s progress. I get it that some of these human characters can’t be as powerful as a saiyan, but they need to be a little higher up than Akira places them. If he doesn’t make his new series basically a Goku show, then i might have hope for it. Otherwise, i won’t be spending another 200 episodes watching Goku spends five episodes returning from his training while the OTHERS keep the bad guy busy, trying to not all die off till he arrives.
5. I mentioned this above. Akira needs to add a little more martial arts into the series, make it less about absurd power levels and more about skill and
technique, again another plus for dragon ball over dragon ball z.
Overall, i don’t think this new series would work and should be made. if it must be made, it better be anime only, or at least anime first and manga later. If Akira is writing for an anime, then we won’t have filler, or dragging episodes. I still remember the Goku Vs Frieza fight, where Frieza tells Goku that has destroyed the core of Namek and that the planet will blow up in five minutes. 7 episodes later and we were still within those five minutes. it was stupidly infuriating.
Conclusion: Yes to more DBZ movies, NO to a new series.
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Toriko x Dragon Ball Z x One Piece!
Toriko x Dragon Ball Z x One Piece!

Source: ANN

Two commercials began airing for "Dream 9 Toriko & One Piece & Dragon Ball Z Chō Collaboration Special!!" — the hour-long crossover television anime special between Toriko, One Piece, and Dragon Ball Z that will air on Sunday, April 7 at 9:00 a.m.

In the story, Toriko's International Gourmet Organization has sponsored "Tenkaichi Shokuōkai," a merciless race with no rules (and a nod to Dragon Ball Z's Tenkaichi Budōkai tournament). The showdown may determine the strongest of the three franchises' leads: Toriko, Goku, or Luffy.

The special will feature the following cast of characters:

Toriko: Toriko, Sunny, Zebra, Coco (the "Four Heavenly King" Gourmet Hunters), Komatsu, Rin, Setsuno

One Piece: Luffy, Nami, Chopper, Sanji, Zoro, Franky, Robin, Usopp

Dragon Ball Z: Goku, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Kame Sennin, Android No. 18, Vegeta, Piccolo, Krilin, Announcer, Mr. Satan

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I'm never going to be able to finish writing up the fight so I decided to just put in the results.

Superman vs. Goku

Strength:

Superman has a wealth of Strength feats but his greatest strength (and perhaps most famous) is the strength to move the planet:

which has a mass of 6 X10^24 Kg. Using the formula 10^(S/10) kilograms this gives Superman a total bench press of around 67 Quintillion Tons. This is supported because after Superman sundipped for 15 minutes his strength multiplied by 3 which led to this feat:

200/3= 66.6 The feat is confirmed!

Now let's do Goku. DBZ unfortunatly dosen't show much in the way of Strength Feats near the end of the Manga. Some try to use the feat of Goku not being able to lift 40 Tons in Base as proof of his lack of strength however the feat is invalid because we don't know the gravity of the planet he was on. However DBZ does give one very good feat which we can scale off. SSJ3 Gotenks spikes Buu into the ground and this is the result:

He craters the Earth. and it a very deep crater as can be seen by the diameter of it and the slope. Now Gotenks, being a fusion, was beating Super Buu who is powerful then Fat Buu which should make him more powerful then Goku. HOWEVER Gotenks is mostly playing around here and so this feat should be considered a casual feat. This gives a good ballpark for Goku's strength.

Gotenks is about 44 inches (an average between Goten's height of 38 inches and Trunks' 50 inches). Thie radius of the hole is about 200X his height (8,800 In.) This means that the total area of the hole is 243,161,600 In. Squared. After converting this into kilograms and rounding up (due to it's casualness) I got a total of 10^16 kilograms which is about the estimated kilograms of the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs. Using the old formula 10^(S/10) the total Strength score was 160. So we have the Strength Scores:

250 vs. 160

Endurance:

Superman has endured being directly between the planets New Genesis and Apokalips as they crash into each other:

Both of which were massive. He has also tanked a Supernova:

But it left him uncouncious. So his durability must lie between them, Two Large planets and a Yellow Star. Our Sun (A Smallish-Average Yellow Star) has a mass of 2 X 10^30. Halving that I got the nice round number of 10^30 which gives the nice round number of 300. Since Superman can tank two massive planets collapsing on him and can survive a supernova while badly injured it seemed about right.

Now for Goku's Endurance. Now for Goku. Frieza survived (if not tanked) the explosion of Namek. And SSJ Goku was more powerful then Frieza.

Goku is clearly above Planetary in Durability. But where is he?

Going by this calc:

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=16051

Namek is somewhere between 42.75X - 523.75X harder to bust then Earth. Averaging gives us 265X. If we assume the SSJ Goku of Buu Saga could tank the Planetary explosion without being reduced to a critical state like Frieza then we can use that to find Goku's durability. The Mulipliers for SSJ2 and SSJ3 gives a total of X8 that of SSJ.

265 X 8 = 2,120. So Goku has an estimated Durability of 2,120X that of Earth. This would gives him a durability just below Jupiter and an Endurance score of 265.

Endurance: 300 vs. 265

Skill:

Superman is a skilled warrior having been trained by Mongul, Wildcat, and Wonder Woman. He is an expert at utilizing pressure points as a non-fatal way of defeating his enemy.

Superman's IQ on combat related matters was judged at Base Brilliant (120) which scored 24.

Goku, on the other hand, is a combat Genius! From a young age he has been able to invent martial arts on the fly based on animals. He was even able to copy his opponent's techniques just from seeing them.

His skill often manifests in his combination of abilities he possesses including one of his most famous manuevers where he is able to trick Cell and use his Kamehameha and Shukan Ido in unison to destroy Cell without harming the Earth.

Goku's IQ in combat was ranked at 300 which gives him a score of 60.

Skill: 24 vs. 60

Intelligence:

Superman is a genius. His brain is a marvel of modern science. Batman has credited Superman's Brain as above his own:

So apparently if Superman had as much time to study as Batman he would have even more knowledge. However he already knows much, he has an understanding of Kryptonian sciences far advanced of ours. His general IQ was rated at Baseline Super-Genius (160) which gives him a score of 32.

Goku, on the other hand, is not very knowledgable. He has spent all his time perfecting his fighting and has never once attended school. He is naive and bleieves things despite them being completely irrational. He honestly believed that it was actually Mr. Satan's Ki bringing Kid Buu to his knees.

Still it's not that overt, he can still speak and perform complex actions perfectly fine. Overall his IQ was rated at 95, which gives him a score of 19.

Intelligence: 32 vs. 19

Willpower:

Superman has trained in the Kryptonian Martial Art Torquasm-Vo, an art specifically designed to increase the mental functions and increase his willpower. His willpower is enough to resist the abilities of the Cosmic Being Dominus who even complimented him on it:

Considering how Dominus is able to affect Celesial Bodies with his mind I calculated Superman's willpower as slightly more then the moon. This gave him a total of 229.

Goku has his own share of willpower feats, as a child he was able to resist the Bankoko Bikkuri Sho (English-Thunder Shock Suprise) which has defeated people with far more experience:

Goku at the end of the series has inertia equivlent to a planet and can survive being an attempt at being digest by Buu utilizing his willpower. I gave Goku the willpower of a planetoid at 226.

Both are incredibly devoted heroes and both have feats of Stamina and resisting mental abilities, however Superman's training at it gives him the slightest of edge.

Willpower: 229 vs. 226

Speed and Reflexes:

Superman is Faster then the Speed of Light. But how fast is he exactly? (For the record Combat Speed and Travel Speed are the same). Going by this calculation:

Jimmy signals Superman, who arrives a few pages later, stating he was near Vega when he received the signal:

These events happened pretty rapidly, but to be conservative I'll use a low-end of 10 minutes, and a high-end of 1 minute.

Distance from Earth to Vega = 25.04 light-years.

Crossing that in 10 minutes gives a speed of 1,316,102.4c.

Using 1 minute, that number is multiplied by 10, to 13,161,024c.

Taking the conservate esimate Superman's Fastest is 1.3 Million X FTL. This gives Superman a score of 149. As Superman dosen't have any reflex feats greater then that that is both his score for Speed and Reflexes

Now Assuming Goku's speed is similar to Gotenks's speed when circling the Earth (similar with the Strength feat). Here is the calc for it:

it's nine laps in 7 seconds. Each lap being approximately 3/2 times the circumference of the earth.

The circumference of the earth is : Vertical circumference: 40,000 km, horizontal circumference 40,076 km.

Given:

S = 7 × ³/₂ × E

E = (E_h + E_v)/2

E_h = 40,076,000 m

E_v = 40,000,000 m

t = 7 s

Solution:

Since the orbits were spread spread out symmetrically the average circumference of the Earth, E, is the constant we're using.

v = s/t = 7 × ³/₂ × (40,076,000 +40,000,000)/2 = 420 × 10^6

Answer: 420 × 10^6 or 1.4c (1.4 × lightspeed).

If we assume Goku's speed is similar that gives him a score of 99

However Goku's Reflexes are notably better then his Speed. In the Frieza saga he was able to dodge exploding light

If we multiply the speed of Light by 10 to get Goku's speed to get his base reflexes and then multiply it by 400 to get his SSJ3 Reflexes (50 X 2 X 4) then Goku's end reflexes are 4,000c at the end of the series. This would give him a score of 124

Note about Shukan Ido: Some people believe that having Shukan Ido (Instant Transmission) means that Goku can move "instaneously" and is thus infinitly fast. This is flawed logic. If that was true they would use it to get everywhere. The thing about teleportation is even if it instant (which Shukan Ido is) you need to think to do it and with Shukan Ido you need to lock onto a Ki Signature and concentrate. Thus it is usually faster to just fly there and only faster to use it when it is a vast distance away AKA not practical for combat. Goku has only used it in combat twice, once against a stationary opponent (Cell) and once against a distracted opponent (Buu).

Reflexes: 149 vs. 124

Speed: 149 vs. 99

Energy Projection:

Superman's Main Energy Projection is his Heat Vision:

Superman's Heat Vision to destroy Planets and burns hotter then the Sun:

However it can be fired with incredible accuracy:

This gets Superman a score of 274.

Conversly Goku's Major Energy Projection is his Kamehameha which was enough to equal Vegeta's Galick Gun back in the Saiyan Saga. However while this dosen't make his Kamehameha Planetary this does:

But how powerful is the Kamehameha?

Buu was supposedly going to destroy the universe:

This does not make him a Universebuster though, as no time frame was given. However to destroy any signifigant part of the universe it is neccesary to destroy a star which means Goku should be able to destroy a star. This is supported by the fact that in the upcoming OVA/Movie DBZ: Clash of the Gods (which is actually canon as it was completely controlled by Akira Toriyama and is supposed to be the canon replacement for DBGT) Goku is supposedly able to create enough energy to destroy stars. This gets him a score of 335.

While Superman's Heat Vision is more precise and has more uses that will be covered later. In terms of sheer Energy Projection Goku has the edge.

Energy: 274 vs. 335

Aura:

Superman's ability in Torquasm-Vo allows him to enter the Theta State. The Theta State allows Superman to reality-shift in the local area and gives a degree of mental control over the area due to his incredible mental discipline.

This regional control gives Superman a calculated score of 98.

Goku on the other hand has the ability to charge his Ki up to affect the local area either defensively

or offensively:

At full power Goku's aura affects as far as the Holy Sphere:

His aura was calculated at 279 which means he can affects Celestial Objects utilizing pure aura.

Aura: 98 vs. 279

Ability:

Damage= Maximum Ability Damage

R= Maximum Ability Range

V= Number of Useful Abilities Controlled

C= Maximum Ability Charge-up Time (in seconds squared)

A= Ability Score

D+R+V/C=A

Superman: 248 + 243 + 130/3: 174

Maximum Ability Damage: Planetary (Heat Vision)

Maximum Ability Range: Jupiter Orbit (Heat Vision)

Maximum Ability Versitility: 13 Abilities (Heat Vision, Super Breath, Microscopic Vision, X-Ray Vision, Electro-Spectrum Vision, Super Hearing, Super-Smell, Torquasm-Rao, Orbital Piledriver, Sun-dipping, Eidactic Memory, Solar Regeneration, Tactile Telekinesis)

Maximum Charge-Up Time: 6 Seconds (Heat Vision)

Goku: 303 + 323 + 100/8: 91

Maximum Ability Damage: Stellar (Genki Dama)

Maximum Ability Range: Solar System (Genki Dama)

Maximum Ability Versitlity: 10 Abilities (Genki Dama, Shukan Ido, Dragon Fist, Kiai, Kaio Ken, Destructo Disk, Solar Flare, Telekinesis, Mimicry)

Maximum Charge-Up Time: 60 Seconds approximate (Genki Dama)

Total and Analysis:

Superman Total: 1,671

Goku Total: 1,649

The Winner by less then 25 points is Superman.

Analysis: The two were pretty evenly matched in stats. Goku's High Aura neutralized Superman's Speed Advantage. Goku's knowledge at combat was countered by Superman's scientific knowledge of general matter. Superman was Stronger and More Durable but Goku had more energy allowing to pick at Superman from range. It all came down to abilities.

And with abilities we saw that Superman just had a few more cards up his sleeve and his trumps abilities like Heat Vision were able to charge much faster then Gok'u s abilities whch were either slow to charge or could easily miss.

The winner by a nose is Superman.

I hope you liked it and as always I appreciate feedback as well as ideas about more battles you want to see.

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Son Goku Warrior Bio:

"I am the hope of the universe. I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. I am protector of the innocent. I am the light in the darkness. I am truth. Ally to good! Nightmare to you!"

The Modern Sun Wukong, the father of Shonen, the Super Saiyan, the Mighty Son Goku! Hailing from the warlike Saiyans but raised to be good amoungst humans Son Goku stands for all that is Righteous and Good in the Universe! Let’s see what kinds of powers he brings to the fight.

(The version we will be using is SSJ 1-3 Goku from the end of the DBZ Manga)

Physical Stats:

As a warrior Goku has constantly trained with fervor and dedication far past the peak of normal humans. By the end of DBZ he was at a strength far higher and being hit constantly by characters of similar strength, but using his magnificent ki he can amplify his strength and endurance and move planetoids and resist the attacks of characters who can perform similar strength feats. Goku is a martial artist and a combat genius having creating entire styles of martial arts based on animals completely on improv. He has trained in many known styles of martial arts and has attained an extremely high level of skill and finesse as well.

Mental Stats:

Mentally while Goku seems rather childish he has the mindset of a warrior, and a very noble one at that. However beneath that warrior also lies the primacy that is within every Saiyan. It is this combination of dedication and fury that makes Goku such a dangerous opponent. He has also proven extremely resistant to mental strain, fighting for hours without signs of tiring. When left to train alone on a spaceship he pushed himself to the brink of death 4 times so as to recover stronger then ever. His mental discipline also allows him to react at speed at least nearing the speed of light considering how he can react and dodge energy beams.

Potential Stats:

Goku as a Saiyan has a technically infinite potential improvement possibility. Every time a Saiyan nearly dies but survives they receive a massive power up known as a zenkai. However for this single combat Goku’s potential is already very high. He can create energy beams of extreme potential to the point that his signature beam known as the Kamehameha Wave, (often abreviated to the first word) can level large planets alone. After full acceleration Goku can also move at Hyper Sonic Speeds. However he also has his more powerful weapon- The Super Saiyan State 1-3 (abbreviated SSJ). Goku can power up to SSJ 1-3 and each form multiplies his power.The sheer act of powering up to SSJ causes storms all over the planet Namek. Goku’s very presence in SSJ is enough to move large chunks of planets. These forms drain energy quickly but Goku can maintain them for signifigant amounts of time. Goku has also shown the ability to turn potential ki into gravity wells and to create forcefields with his ki.

Ability Stats:

Close-Range: Dragon Fist: Goku’s preferred Melee Attack, He lunges at his enemy with a powerful punch channeling his Ki through his fist to cause a huge surge of power to knock out the enemy.

Mid Range: Kiai: Goku’s yells sounds out huge shockwaves capable of tearing open the walls of dimensions. A very potent power, the two functions can be used together to knock an unsuspecting enemy into another dimension.

Long Range: Genki Dama: Goku can gather energy from all life surrounding him and the Ki that the life holds which turns into a huge ball of Energy and hurl it at this enemy. It has a very long start-up time but it can completely vaporize most opponents.

Other:

Special Abilities: Goku has a myriad of other powers to aid him, he like many DBZ characters, can sense Ki which is helpful is determining the potential power of an enemy. He has Shukan Ido which allows him to teleport to where he chooses if he can concentrate. He also had Zanzoken where he uses his speed to create an afterimage that tricks the enemy.

Up Next: The Fight Begins...

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Considering it's popularity, I am going to post my thoughts on this fight and why I think one character would win, first let me give the information I am working with and how I am judging. If people like my way of determining things I'll make more of these fights.

I shall actually show my system of determining the winner. All the mathematics and science will be available for critical inspection so that if you disagree with a decision of mine you can look up to see how I got to the point I got to. Now for the record my system uses 13 stats mostly derived from 4 Superstats. Why 13 Because each fight spells doom for one of the characters (although perhaps not death depending on the warriors). Getting 7 edges though does not determine a victory for that character. Edges of greater magnitude might decide the fight in some cases instead of number of edges. So here are the various Superstats, the derived from them and how I determine the score for each stat (it all boils down to the formula 10^(N/10). You’ll see.)

Physical Stats: Stats that relate to the character’s physical abilities.

Strength: The maximum amount of area the character could signifigantly influence (either break or move) with sheer physical might. Determined through the formula where S is Strength 10^(S/10) kilograms.

Endurance: The strongest attack the character could take without collapsing into uncounciousness. Determined through the formula where E is the power of the attack they could survive and remain councious against 10^(E/10) kilograms.

Skill:

How knowlegeable a character is about combat related matters and how trained they are. Determind through the formula where S is Skill S/5 IQ about combat related matters.

Mental Stats: Stats that relate to a character’s mental capacities.

Intelligence: How intelligent a character is in general matters. Determined through the formula where I is intelligence I/5 IQ on general matters.

Willpower:

How fit the character’s mindset is for rigorous combat and their general mental stamina. Determined through the formula where W is willpower the character can go for 10^(W/10) Rounds without collapsing from exhaustion.

Reflexes:

How quickly a character can react. Determined through the forumla where R is Reflexes the character can react at a speed of 10^(R/10) MPH.

Potential Stats: How powerful the character has the potential to be through neccesity.

Speed:

The most notorious stat. Determines how fast the character can move and an important stat. Determined through the formula where S is Speed the character

can move 10^(S/10) MPH

Energy:

How much energy the character can project after full chargeup. Determindthrough the formula where E is the largest amount of mass they could destroy 10^(E/10) Kilograms.

Aura:

How far the character can affect with sheer presence and how much the character can reality-shift. Determined through the formula where A is Aura the character can affect an area of mass 10^(A/10) with their sheer presence.

Abilitity Stats: What weapons and abilities the character has.

Close Range: How powerful a character’s mid-range abilities and weaponry are. Where the character’s greatest Close Range Damage is D, Range is R, Versatility is V and Charge Up Time is C then it is determined through (D+R+V)/C

Mid Range: How powerful a character’s mid-range abilities and weaponry are. Where the character’s greatest Mid Range Damage is D, Range is R, Versatility is V and Charge Up Time is C then it is determined through (D+R+V)/C

Long Range: How powerful a character’s long-range abilities and weaponry are. Where the character’s greatest Long Range Damage is D, Range is R, Versatility is V and Charge Up Time is C then it is determined through (D+R+V)/C

Other:

Special Abilities: How versatile and powerful a character’s other various abilities are. Where N is the number of abilities and E is the effectiveness then the score is determined through E*N.

Rules:

Here are the rules that the gauntlet will run by:

Neutral Terrain:

Generally the Terrain will not favor one combatant over the other.

Characters at the Latest: All characters are taken at their current canon counterpart unless it would unfaily depower the character. Canon is defined as the original work the character appeared in and any related work that does not contradict the original work.

Combat Speed=Travel Speed: To Some speed is arbitrarily divided into “Combat Speed” and “Travel Speed”. Well I shall not be adhereing to that, if a character can move at a certain speed and can react at that speed then they can effectively use that speed in combat. And if a character can move at a speed they can also usually react at that speed because they would need to be able to turn and stop and avoid objects and whatnot. There areexceptions but it is usually assumed reflexes are on level with speed. Does this mean that a far faster character will always win? No, because:

Speed is limited: Speed by itself can only determine how fast a character can complete an action. The character’s intelligence limits the speed though because if a character can not plot out several actions an once in their head then they can not performthat many actions. Whereas Reflexes are knee-jerk and can be used while performing an action, intelligence is not neccesarily implied by that speed, especially if the character has only used their speed lineraly before.

TLDR version: Speedblitzes are rare and far between.

Evidence of Character’s Abilities: This is the order of how evidence for both sides is accepted as proof of a Character’s abilities, if there is a contradiction then the one higher on the chart is taken as correct.

1: Direct Feats: If acharacter can perform a feat,then they can perform that feat.

2: Omniscient Statement: If an omniscient or nigh-omniscient character says a character can or cannot perform a feat then it is assumed true.

3: Transitive Feat: If a character performs a featand the second character proves superior to them in that stat then it is assumed the 2 character can also perform that feat.

4: Logic: Does it make sense for the character to have that ability? Does it create any plot holes or have any support?

5: Supported Statements: Statements with some proof or validity behind it, usually in the form of an extremely intelligent character calculating it true or characters on a similar level performing similar feats.

6: Unsupported Statements: A Statement made without any support.

7: Contradicted Statement: A Statement that is contradicted by someone else. Never assumed true.

All Characters act as they would in their original franchise.

I will be posting Bios for Superman and Goku Next.

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Welcome to Featured Figures; a blog feature highlighting a handful of figures, my thoughts on them, the dents they'd leave in your wallet and maybe even links to sites you can buy them from. Let me know what you want to see from these blogs and I'll see what I can do.

Son Goku SSJ, 1/8th scale, Clear Hair Ver. (Medicos Entertainment)

Screaming, as usual
Screaming, as usual

This is easily one of the most bad-ass Dragon Ball Z figures I've seen, and boy has there been a lot of DBZ figures over the years. Not only does this Goku figure have really great looking clothes--all the folds and highlights look really great--but look at that hair. Dude has glass hair, well... I imagine it's really semi-transparent plastic, but it certainly looks the part.

This is version 2 of the figure, with the original featuring boring not-awesome hair, so clearly this is the version to get. The equally awesome Super Saiyan aura around Goku's feet is also a great touch.

What do you think? Is glass hair cool or weird?

Goku is listed at ¥9,200 on Amazon Japan (approx $112 or £71) and $117 on Hobbyfan but currently out of stock.

Samus Aran, 1/8th scale, Zero Suit ver. (Max Factory)

Sleek Samus
Sleek Samus

I have a weird relationship with Metroid games. I acknowledge that they're great, in fact I think very highly of them, but I don't think I've ever finished any of them. Particularly whenever I take a crack at Metroid Prime, I just don't get on with it, not really sure why. Maybe I'll finish one eventually, in the meantime I'll just admire gorgeous figure renditions of Samus like this Metroid: Other M figure from Max Factory. If it's too hard to tell Samus is a woman with her power suit on, there's certainly no question when she takes it off.

I love how sleek this figure looks, I don't know if Samus normally looks as tall as she does here, but I guess I haven't played Other M so maybe one of you knows better than me. There's some nice detail on the gun, and the Metroid looks great too.

Samus can be pre-ordered for $103 on Hobbyfan (approx £65) or $130 on J-List (approx £82)

Kobato Hasegawa & Maria Takayama, 1/7th scale (Max Factory)

Super cute
Super cute

Okay, I haven't watched Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai yet, but these figures are adorable. These are sold as two separate figures, but as you can tell they obviously go together, which is a classic trick to get twice as much of your hard-earned money from you.

I literally can't find fault with either of these figures. They're cute, the hair looks good (while not quite as glassy-looking as Goku's hair, it's similar) and their outfits look especially great. I appreciate it when sculptors put in extra effort to make the clothes look separate from the figure, you know, like actual clothes. Like the "Zero Suit" Samus is wearing, these playboy-style catgirl outfits are super glossy.

These figures can be pre-ordered for $88 each on Hobbyfan (approx £55) or $105 each on J-List (approx £66)

Chifusa Manyuu, 1/4th scale (A+)

Skimpy Samurai
Skimpy Samurai

For those with more risqué tastes we have Chifusa Manyuu from Manyuu Hikenchou. The biggest figure in this selection at 1/4th scale making it more of a statue than a figurine. Chifusa comes with a katana and completely removable attire that already barely covers her expanding bust (in the show, the figure itself doesn't expand... that would be weird).

I'm not really sure why her hair is so blue, I'm pretty sure it was black in the anime, but I like how... soft she looks. That probably sounds weird, but it's easy for figures to look very solid since they're made of plastic, and this doesn't. If you're looking for something a little lighter on clothing and bigger in size, this may be the figure for you. With that sword it would probably make a pretty good letter-opener too I guess.

Chifusa can be pre-ordered for $210 on Hobbyfan (approx £132) with extra shipping fees.

What do you think of these figures? Ready to order one? Or are you like me, preferring to appreciate them from afar instead?

Daniel Newton is a moderator for Anime Vice and Screened. Follow him on twitter: @Daniel_Newton and @AnimeVicers

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