Goku - Level of strength.

Topic started by comicfanforever on Oct. 8, 2009. Last post by MastaZenyouX 1 year, 11 months ago.
Post by hellolosers (19 posts) See mini bio Level 5
Your all WRONG and heres why. The Gravity they weigh at in the gravity DOES NOT OR EVEN MEAN THATS HOW MUCH THEY CAN LIFT. IF you watch the show Dragonball Z carefully during the fights youll see that they can lift FAR MORE. 1. The amount they train in a GRAVITY ROOM is NOT HOW MUCH THEY CAN LIFT. Its just a gravity that makes them lift the weight their body trains under BUT ITS NOT HOW MUCH THEY CAN LIFT WITH THEIR TOTAL POWER. Its the amount of Gravity their body can hande. 2. Akira stated to me via EMAIL that a Supersaiyan 3 is 3 times a supersaiyan 1's power Akira stated to me via EMAIL that a Supersaiyan 2 is 2 times a supersaiyan 1's power 3. Akira stated to me that I was correct with the GRAVITY in a gravity room etc not being the total amount they can lift with their total power. This is proven many times and proven when Final Form 3rd transformation Frieza at 1% of his powerlevel (being roughly 1.5 million) lifted a MASSIVE ROCK WITH TOO MUCH EASE AND NOT A SWEAT. It was almost the size of an island which Akira agreed with me that it was around 1/2 a million to 1 million tons. And if he wanted he could lift 10 or more times more if Frieza was pushing himself so hard to do it. SO 1% Frieza final form can lift 1 million to 10 million tonnes AND TRAINS UNDER 500 times gravity. Do understand the power they can use from their body IS NOT THE TOTAL AMOUNT THEY CAN LIFT with the their total bodies KI energy as well. Their total KI and body power is not used in the gravity room and if they used it they can but then it will be like cheating for them and they will never get stronger. The gravity weight is just weight hanging like training weights which the KI energy and their ttoal power doesnt affect or lift. Its just weight put on their body. If they used their KI to lift it they will never improve. 4. Frieza used his POWER to lift it. He wouldnt lift that much with just his body in a gravity room probably he would train at 500 or more times gravity at 1% of his power compared to android saga vegeta in that picture youve all shown. This proves that the gravity they train under doesnt mean crap about the amount they can lift, your all ASSUMING ITS THESAME THING. IT ISNT. Vegeta training under 300 gravity who lifts 18 tons on his own bodyweight would be able to lift 1/2 a MILLION TONS with ease and 5 million with difficulty if he USED ALL OF HIS TOTAL KI POWER AND BODY POWER! get it? so this concludes DBZ characters can lift FAR MORE than the gravity they train under. Frieza at 50% would lift 50 million with too much ease to 500 million tons with difficulty Frieza at 50% would train under 25000 times gravity. Akira told me himself and agreed with what I said in an email to him as well. This gravity weight lifting issue has already been dealt with..
Post by hellolosers (19 posts) See mini bio Level 5
Your all WRONG and heres why. The Gravity they weigh at in the gravity DOES NOT OR EVEN MEAN THATS HOW MUCH THEY CAN LIFT. IF you watch the show Dragonball Z carefully during the fights youll see that they can lift FAR MORE. 1. The amount they train in a GRAVITY ROOM is NOT HOW MUCH THEY CAN LIFT. Its just a gravity that makes them lift the weight their body trains under BUT ITS NOT HOW MUCH THEY CAN LIFT WITH THEIR TOTAL POWER. Its the amount of Gravity their body can hande. 2. Akira stated to me via EMAIL that a Supersaiyan 3 is 3 times a supersaiyan 1's power Akira stated to me via EMAIL that a Supersaiyan 2 is 2 times a supersaiyan 1's power 3. Akira stated to me that I was correct with the GRAVITY in a gravity room etc not being the total amount they can lift with their total power. This is proven many times and proven when Final Form 3rd transformation Frieza at 1% of his powerlevel (being roughly 1.5 million) lifted a MASSIVE ROCK WITH TOO MUCH EASE AND NOT A SWEAT. It was almost the size of an island which Akira agreed with me that it was around 1/2 a million to 1 million tons. And if he wanted he could lift 10 or more times more if Frieza was pushing himself so hard to do it. SO 1% Frieza final form can lift 1 million to 10 million tonnes AND TRAINS UNDER 500 times gravity. Do understand the power they can use from their body IS NOT THE TOTAL AMOUNT THEY CAN LIFT with the KI energy as well. Their total KI and body power is not used in the gravity room and if they used it they can but then it will be like cheating for them and they will never get stronger. The gravity weight is just weight hanging like training weights which the KI energy and their ttoal power doesnt affect or lift. Its just weight put on their body. If they used their KI to lift it they will never improve. 4. Frieza used his POWER to lift it. He wouldnt lift that much with just his body in a gravity room probably he would train at 500 or more times gravity at 1% of his power compared to android saga vegeta in that picture youve all shown. This proves that the gravity they train under doesnt mean crap about the amount they can lift, your all ASSUMING ITS THESAME THING. IT ISNT. Vegeta training under 300 gravity who lifts 18 tons on his own bodyweight would be able to lift 1/2 a MILLION TONS with ease and 5 million with difficulty if he USED ALL OF HIS TOTAL KI POWER AND BODY POWER! get it? so this concludes DBZ characters can lift FAR MORE than the gravity they train under. Frieza at 50% would lift 50 million with too much ease to 500 million tons with difficulty Frieza at 50% would train under 25000 times gravity. Akira told me himself and agreed with what I said in an email to him as well. This gravity weight lifting issue has already been dealt with.. Frieza at 100% would lift 100 million tons with too much ease to 1 billion tons with his maximum difficulty. And he would train at 50,000 times gravity. Vegeta needed to train under at least 1000 times gravity in android saga to improve his body to become a supersaiyan 1 but he couldnt since it wasnt that strong and of course even if he did he would never become one if he didnt have that desire or goal or feeling of care and need to reach it, then his supersaiyan 1s times 50 would allow him to train under 50,000 times gravity but it doesnt mean he can only lift 50,000 times his weight. He can lift that much with just his body but with his total KI amount as well he can lift FAR FAR HIGER and its proven when goku fights frieza and proven in other parts of dbz. vegeta at a powerlevel of say 10 times more than he was in the android saga (SAY HES IN BUU SAGA) would be able to lift 10 times more possibly (not proven for sure, maybe the weight increase doesnt work like that , maybe he can lift more... but nonetheless) A BUU SAGA Supersaiyan 1 vegeta would be 10 times stronger. And as a Golden OOZARU supersaiyan 1 he would be an additional 10 times stronger. (100 times stronger in total than his supersaiyan 1 in the android saga/ AKA A JUST TURNED SUPERSAIYAN) The supersaiyan times 50 rule lowers the higher their BASE POWER INCREASES. its a natural proven formula by Akira. So say goku at base on namek was 3 million and has a supersaiyan multiplier of 50. If he was in the android saga and has a base of 10 million he have a multipler of 40. IF HE WAS IN THE CELL SAGA (fighting cell) his base would be around 120 million , he would have a multiplier of 10. IF he was in the buu saga with a base of around 200 million, he would have a supersaiyan multiplier of around an estimated 8 or 6 And remember whatever his supersaiayn 1 multilpier is, his supersaiyan 2 is double it, and his supersaiyan 3 is 3 times it. eg. supersaiyan 1 multipler is 8. supersaiyan 2 multipler is 16. supersaiyan 3 multipler is 24. Btw daizenshuu and shonens cooler powerlevels are incorrect. Cooler is 200 million at 50% of his 5th final form(4th transformation)
Post by MastaZenyouX (7 posts) See mini bio Level 4

Saiyan Saga, probably moon busting striking.

Before Frieza, planet busting material.

Fighting Frieza, multiplanetary material.

Cell Games, multimultiplanetary material.

After that, Solar system and above material.

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