Okay - How many tons can Giku lift, exactly...
Saiyan Saga - ????
Freezer Saga ( before the fight with Freezer) - ???
Freezer Saga - Super Saiyan Form
Android Saga - ???
Cell Games - Super Saiyan Full Power
Majin Buu Saga: Saiyan Form - 40 tons
Super Saiyan level 1 - ??? (2000 tons???)
Super Saiyan level 2 - ???
Super Saiyan level 3 - ???
"During Goku's time when he was training with King Kai on his planet long after the defeat of Cell he was seen completely unable to move with 10 tons attached to each limb which is 40 tons in total, now in his base form he was unable to move properly with 40 tons of weight on his body however when he turned into a Super Saiyan he was moving at incredible speeds and was completely fine, now it is stated that the Super Saiyan form increases the user's power 50x so it can be assumed that it applies for physical power as well so Super Saiyan Goku should be able to lift 2000 tons using maximum physical strength.I've seen on youtube - super saiyan multiplies 50 times. Goku can lift 40 tons (limit as saiyan- Majin Buu Saga). Super Saiyan level 1is 2000 tonnes (limit)?? Someone could help me? Please.... "
Okay - How many tons can Giku lift, exactly...
Saiyan Saga - ????
Freezer Saga ( before the fight with Freezer) - ???
Freezer Saga - Super Saiyan Form
Android Saga - ???
Cell Games - Super Saiyan Full Power
Majin Buu Saga: Saiyan Form - 40 tons
Super Saiyan level 1 - ??? (2000 tons???)
Super Saiyan level 2 - ???
Super Saiyan level 3 - ???
" @comicfanforever said:
"During Goku's time when he was training with King Kai on his planet long after the defeat of Cell he was seen completely unable to move with 10 tons attached to each limb which is 40 tons in total, now in his base form he was unable to move properly with 40 tons of weight on his body however when he turned into a Super Saiyan he was moving at incredible speeds and was completely fine, now it is stated that the Super Saiyan form increases the user's power 50x so it can be assumed that it applies for physical power as well so Super Saiyan Goku should be able to lift 2000 tons using maximum physical strength. Now as for Super Saiyan 2, it is never stated numerically how much the user's power is increased by so it cannot be properly defined what kind of strength Goku could lift. The same applies for Super Saiyan 3, it is never stated how much his power increases from his previous forms so it cannot be estimated how much his strength is or how much he can lift. "I've seen on youtube - super saiyan multiplies 50 times. Goku can lift 40 tons (limit as saiyan- Majin Buu Saga). Super Saiyan level 1is 2000 tonnes (limit)?? Someone could help me? Please.... "
Okay - How many tons can Giku lift, exactly...
Saiyan Saga - ????
Freezer Saga ( before the fight with Freezer) - ???
Freezer Saga - Super Saiyan Form
Android Saga - ???
Cell Games - Super Saiyan Full Power
Majin Buu Saga: Saiyan Form - 40 tons
Super Saiyan level 1 - ??? (2000 tons???)
Super Saiyan level 2 - ???
Super Saiyan level 3 - ???
" @Newdeath said:Hmmm..interesting.
" @comicfanforever said:
"During Goku's time when he was training with King Kai on his planet long after the defeat of Cell he was seen completely unable to move with 10 tons attached to each limb which is 40 tons in total, now in his base form he was unable to move properly with 40 tons of weight on his body however when he turned into a Super Saiyan he was moving at incredible speeds and was completely fine, now it is stated that the Super Saiyan form increases the user's power 50x so it can be assumed that it applies for physical power as well so Super Saiyan Goku should be able to lift 2000 tons using maximum physical strength. Now as for Super Saiyan 2, it is never stated numerically how much the user's power is increased by so it cannot be properly defined what kind of strength Goku could lift. The same applies for Super Saiyan 3, it is never stated how much his power increases from his previous forms so it cannot be estimated how much his strength is or how much he can lift. "I've seen on youtube - super saiyan multiplies 50 times. Goku can lift 40 tons (limit as saiyan- Majin Buu Saga). Super Saiyan level 1is 2000 tonnes (limit)?? Someone could help me? Please.... "
Okay - How many tons can Giku lift, exactly...
Saiyan Saga - ????
Freezer Saga ( before the fight with Freezer) - ???
Freezer Saga - Super Saiyan Form
Android Saga - ???
Cell Games - Super Saiyan Full Power
Majin Buu Saga: Saiyan Form - 40 tons
Super Saiyan level 1 - ??? (2000 tons???)
Super Saiyan level 2 - ???
Super Saiyan level 3 - ???
I used the internet and. .. many people use Super Saiyan Level 2 as double of Super Saiyan Lvel 1."
Example: SS1 multiply 50 times the power of the saiyan. SS2 multiplied 100 times the power of the saiyan (2 times the power of Super Saiyan 1)
Another intriguing thing ... Babidi to resurrect Majin Buu need the energy of 3 (three) Super Saiyan level 2 ... Goku said he could defeat Fat Buu (manga vol 42 - the fight against Kid Buu). Super Saiyan level 3 should be between 3 - 4 times the power of Super Saiyan Level 2...???
Summary of idea:
Super Saiyan level 2 - 4000 tons (double of the Super Saiyan level 1 - 2 times 2000 tons = 4000 tons )
Super Saiyan level 3 (3-4 times Super Saiyan Level 2) - from 12,000 to 16,000 tons.
?????
"@Newdeath said:
" @comicfanforever said:
"During Goku's time when he was training with King Kai on his planet long after the defeat of Cell he was seen completely unable to move with 10 tons attached to each limb which is 40 tons in total, now in his base form he was unable to move properly with 40 tons of weight on his body however when he turned into a Super Saiyan he was moving at incredible speeds and was completely fine, now it is stated that the Super Saiyan form increases the user's power 50x so it can be assumed that it applies for physical power as well so Super Saiyan Goku should be able to lift 2000 tons using maximum physical strength. Now as for Super Saiyan 2, it is never stated numerically how much the user's power is increased by so it cannot be properly defined what kind of strength Goku could lift. The same applies for Super Saiyan 3, it is never stated how much his power increases from his previous forms so it cannot be estimated how much his strength is or how much he can lift. "I've seen on youtube - super saiyan multiplies 50 times. Goku can lift 40 tons (limit as saiyan- Majin Buu Saga). Super Saiyan level 1is 2000 tonnes (limit)?? Someone could help me? Please.... "
Okay - How many tons can Giku lift, exactly...
Saiyan Saga - ????
Freezer Saga ( before the fight with Freezer) - ???
Freezer Saga - Super Saiyan Form
Android Saga - ???
Cell Games - Super Saiyan Full Power
Majin Buu Saga: Saiyan Form - 40 tons
Super Saiyan level 1 - ??? (2000 tons???)
Super Saiyan level 2 - ???
Super Saiyan level 3 - ???
I used the internet and. .. many people use Super Saiyan Level 2 as double of Super Saiyan Lvel 1."
Example: SS1 multiply 50 times the power of the saiyan. SS2 multiplied 100 times the power of the saiyan (2 times the power of Super Saiyan 1)
Another intriguing thing ... Babidi to resurrect Majin Buu need the energy of 3 (three) Super Saiyan level 2 ... Goku said he could defeat Fat Buu (manga vol 42 - the fight against Kid Buu). Super Saiyan level 3 should be between 3 - 4 times the power of Super Saiyan Level 2...???
Summary of idea:
Super Saiyan level 2 - 4000 tons (double of the Super Saiyan level 1 - 2 times 2000 tons = 4000 tons )
Super Saiyan level 3 (3-4 times Super Saiyan Level 2) - from 12,000 to 16,000 tons.
?????
"Sorry to burst the bubble but quoting "During Goku's time when he was training with King Kai on his planet long after the defeat of Cell he was seen completely unable to move with 10 tons attached to each limb which is 40 tons in total" it was not King Kai's planet it was the planet of the Grand kai due to his planet being destroyed by Cell, BUT like King Kai's planet the Grand Kai's planet it has around 10 times earths gravity so just doing the math 40 tons total on the Grand Kai's planet is really 400 tons in earth gravity so to correct the math. Goku Saiyan Level can lift 400 tons (maximum physical strength) Goku Super Saiyan 1 can Lift 20,000 tons (maximum physical strength) Goku Super Saiyan 2 can lift 40,000 tons (maximum physical strength) Goku Super Saiyan 3 Can lift 160,000 tons (maximum physical strength) "
"well vegeta before achieving ssj1 could train intensely under 18 tons, in the English manga its 180tons (180 00kg) training under is harder than just lifting. And ssj is 50x increase Even if it is 18tons though (300x60=1800) in ssj1 its still 900ton, in ssj 2 its 1800ton assuming vegeta base did not get stronger.
"
Which version you are using? is the English version?
The version that you are using is wrong. 60 Kg (the weight of Vegeta) multiplied by 300 equals is 18 tons (18.000 Kg) - Not 180 tons. Many versions have errors. You should read the Japanese and French versions - they are the best.
Uhm... might be worth taking note that grand kai's planet, being a place where warriors all across the 4 galaxies train.. might have more than x1 gravity. ill be conservative and say x10 like grand kai's planet.. it might be even more. it was never stated, yes, but it was also never stated that is was x1 gravity either.
So, at a conservative estimate, gravity could be x10, which would mean 100 tons per arm. might be more too.
Also worth mentioning that goku had not powered up at all, so he was pretty much excerting himself in a "cold" state. even a base form can vary in PL from 5 to 80 000 (with ginyu) so the potential "powered up" strength of goku would be pretty high... (this is in the frieza saga too, the gap between goku's cold state and powered up state could be even greater. alas, this is my theory... but i find it hard to believe goku would be fully powered up while training with some weights... this would also explain why frieza saga goku, who weighed like 80 kg's could perform super humany in x100 times gravity. (every cell in his being would be x10 as heavy = a big workout) yet the immensly stronger buu saga goku would struggle lifting 10 tons with his arm or leg?
onto the "ss2 = x2 ss1) no.. makes no sense, then what were ascended/ultra super saiyans? like a 1.2 and 1.5 boost? no way... imperfect cell were leaps and bounds more than x2 stronger than ss1 vegeta, and his ascended from ripped him to shreds. goku tossed a 2x2 meter cube of immense mass with one hand, if we assume it had the same density as say, gold or uranium, it would have weighed 160 000 kg's or 160 tons... (1 cubic decimeter of uranium/gold avg 20 kg's 8000 cubic decimeters of that material = 160 tons) and goku tossed it hard one handed, also without powering up at all.
(lastly, base naruto lift even 5 tons?... LAWL, more like 300-500 kg's on a good day...)
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