GARGANTIA #13 - - Watch & Learn

Topic started by No_name_here on July 1, 2013. Last post by YotaruVegeta 1 year, 6 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11

As is always the case with anime finales, I’m finding it difficult to keep my write-up focused on just this last episode. I’d really like to comment on the series as a whole, but I’ll be doing a solo video on that later this week, so I’ll scale the talk back here...

To comment on one specific thing, I will never cease to be amused by mainstream anime’s cooties phobia. Ledo decides to fight StrIker and potentially sacrifice himself in order to save Amy, she subsequently risks her life by para-sailing into battle just so she can tell Ledo that he’s loved… and they might as well have just shaken hands at the end. Certainly, there’s value in platonic relationships, but these are basics of human nature that are being obfuscated here.

I’m also intrigued by the ambiguous nature of Chamber’s intelligence. He might as well have been Jiminy Cricket (or the Mecha Godfather, perhaps), signing off with these proud compliments to Ledo about how he’s lived up to his potential and learned to think for himself. You wonder which mech was functioning according to its original programming in that final battle. Did Striker’s CPU start acting wonky after a crash landing, or was it Chamber who was glitching from what the deep space galactic authority intended for it? Questions with plenty of potential answers, of course, and I appreciate that Urobuchi leaves us viewers free to draw our conclusions.

I do continue to enjoy how Urubuchi uses an economists’ approach to his plotting. There was some legitimate suspense hanging over Ledo’s fate at the end here, and it was a brilliant stroke to have Chamber take a more… benign version of an Asimov twist, gaming his own cold, internal logic to jettison Ledo to safety.

I only wish Urobuchi thought less like an economist when wrapping up Amy and Ledo’s no-brainer of a courtship... but hey.

Watch this episode, “Legend of the Verdurous Planet" here and decide for yourself, then read my comments on the previous episode here.

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Post by Lurkero (423 posts) See mini bio Level 7

I always figured that Chamber was the main character. He was such a great guy.

And I think Ledo and Amy were holding hands at the end of the episode, so there was a little bit more there, but the characters still never opened up to each other on screen.

Post by YotaruVegeta (627 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Chamber: the most broest bro since Piccolo.

Speaking of Chamber, is he "dead"? I feel like if there was a continuation of Gargantia, Ledo would eventually rebuild the Chamber AI.

Post by zaldar (1,313 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Yea I can't think of a shonen anime where there was an actual non platonic relationship...but then American cartoons for the 12 to 13 age group were not any better...with their low birth rate though you would think they might want to make physical relationships seem better..

Post by takashichea (15,098 posts) See mini bio Level 25

It was a great finale. I assumed if they make a season, they will expand on the Hideauze. They left a lot of questions. Do those humanoid hideauze speak or have signs of human intelligence? I think it's a suitable ending for Amy and Ledo to be friends. There is not much romance between the two.


I like the ending where Chamber is deep in the sea with the Hideauze using him as a home. This is pretty mild for Gen Urobuchi series. He just killed off a mech instead of a human being. It serves to improve Ledo's character. Ledo has been depending on Chamber. In the beginning series, you see Ledo failing his job on his own.


Don't know where you got pregnancy stuff. This is unrelated to Gargantia, but a lot of adult visual novels have marriage endings where it ends with the love interest pregnant. I find it strange for otome games. You don't have the main heroine pregnant. Video games with main heroes can get away with a dating simulation ending. For video games with female heroines, you don't have them marry. Most of the players are male. To appeal to the male fans and promote the game, you don't want to interfere with their "fantasies."


I'm not sure about the female players for the female heroine games. It could go either way.

Post by NickyCharisma (48 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Anime infinitely frustrates me in its adamant non-resolution of romances. Even in straight romance shows (Toradora, Kimi ni Todoke) they are gun shy at showing meaningful romance at the end of the series.

Post by zaldar (1,313 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@takashichea: If you mean that their birth rate is low that is well such it would seem to me they would want to fight the girls have kooties idea at a young age AND interfere with fantasies...I mean companies and governments use entertainment to promote "social values" all the time...

Post by YotaruVegeta (627 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@NickyCharisma: There wasn't really a romance here. How much did they share with each other. They just seemed like two teenagers who like each other, one a bit more than the other. I think you'd need more time for their relationship to get to a real point of romance.

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