How FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST Saved Anime (for Me) - - OTAKU COMING HOME

Topic started by No_name_here on Sept. 2, 2012. Last post by sotyfan16 1 year, 10 months ago.
Post by NickTapalansky (63 posts) See mini bio Level 8
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@Jonny_Anonymous:

BOOM! Got another one, guys!

Glad you dug it so far. Keep up, it only gets better.

Post by AgentJ (1,545 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@NickTapalansky: Let me put it into these terms; It has been years since I last completely geeked out over the announcement of a video game (Perhaps the last was the Golden Sun announcement in 2007). I am almost literally examining every PIXEL of every screenshot. My love for the previous games in the series is almost unmatched by any franchise in the medium. We're talking about a series completely driven by great characters (the aspect I most prize in any work of fiction I inhale).

I recommend picking up either the Wiiware ports of the first three Ace Attorney games (the DS carts are pretty expensive these days) or wait for the phone "HD" release of the trilogy. Don't know how expensive that will be, but I already own those three games and I will likely still pick it up again. Whatever you do, don't let Ace Attorney 5 (the new game) be your first entry in the series. It will likely be spoiler-rific.

I'll second SOTY's recommendations of Summer Wars and Code Geass.

Post by NickTapalansky (63 posts) See mini bio Level 8
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@AgentJ:

Haha! Wow, that's some high praise. But alright, you've sold me. When the HD games come out for phones, I'll grab 'em for the ol' iPhone (old DS doesn't hold a charge anymore and my Wii died a few months back and didn't get much use anyway, so I haven't had the willpower to buy a replacement).

SUMMER WARS I've been dying to see, but CODE GEASS was never on my radar. With two recs behind it now though I'll have to try out an ep or two to see what's up.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,385 posts) See mini bio Level 17

FMA FOR LIFE!!!

I too when I saw the title for the first time I was like *meh nothing special* but when I saw the first episode I was blown away!! I liked FMA from that point and on!! I have watched both FMAB and 2003... and of course read the manga!! and yeah it's one of my personal favorites!!

Also great review!! and I feel like reading some of those comics you make!! and I like your tattoo!!

Post by sotyfan16 (1,340 posts) See mini bio Level 20

@NickTapalansky:

I haven't read the Death Note manga but from what I have been told the anime does well in sticking to the material. Speaking of, have you checked out Ohba and Obata's most recent work, Bakuman? The manga has finished in Japan and the anime is coming up on season 3. Being a book writer yourself I think you would like it. I really do. One of my favorites.

Forgive my constant suggestions.

As for Steins;Gate, the series is licensed by FUNi and the Part 1 boxset is coming out soon. You should be able to watch the series on FUNi's site or Hulu or YouTube. I'm waiting for a complete boxset before buying it but I finished watching it about a month ago and it was immediately another favorite of mine.

But Code Geass is one where you'll have to buy (or borrow) as there are no legal streams of the series. The nice thing about it though is you can get both seasons on DVD for $30 each, which is a good price since it totals 50 episodes. Surprisingly, it is also the series I've seen the most times besides DBZ and Black Lagoon (another series and manga I highly suggest). Once I watch my R2 boxset I think the total will be 4 times.

Post by NickTapalansky (63 posts) See mini bio Level 8
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@DBZ_universe:

That's awesome, man. FMA, in any form, seems to be a bit of universal glue (at least from where I sit). It really does reach across genre and medium to convey a solid, character-driven story that you become invested in VERY quickly. I think that's the appeal, whether to current fans, lapsed viewers, or non-anime fans. If you like exciting and heartfelt stories, you're probably gonna be hooked.

@sotyfan16:

Yeah, I've heard the same thing about the anime - I think that's why I put off watching it for a bit. I really enjoyed the manga, but I wanted some distance so I could enjoy the anime objectively (not to mention letting myself forget a few things so I could potentially be surprised). The animation by Madhouse looks, unsurprisingly, stunning.

Definitely don't apologize for making recs! Truth is, like everyone else I have finite time and funds to devote, but I'm always looking for suggestions. The ones that really grab me, or are really impassioned, go to the top of the queue or wishlist. So keep 'em coming, just don't be insulted if I don't get to all of them for a while!

Post by sotyfan16 (1,340 posts) See mini bio Level 20

@NickTapalansky:

Of course not. While most fans keep up with a couple shows each season I while away at about half of each season. I have (sadly) limited time as well so I still have not finished 2011 series.

I wish I could forget details of series, especially if I enjoy them. Comedies can be difficult to rewatch if you remember most everything said or that happens.

Funny that you mention Madhouse since sometimes the company does some poor work. But besides that, Black Lagoon, one I mentioned before, is also animated by Madhouse. In addition, the lead males in both series have the same voice actor in their dub versions.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,385 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@NickTapalansky: Yes i agree!! Also Edward is different from your typical protagonist who are selfish, arrogant, dumb, or that gets random power ups... no! Ed has great character development!! he is by far one of the best anime protagonist ever....

also this is one of my favorite scenes!!

Post by NickTapalansky (63 posts) See mini bio Level 8
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@sotyfan16:

It's funny, sometimes watching dubs, even good ones, is really hard for me because of the small pool of talent localization companies, like Funi, draw from for the leads. Someone might argue that Hollywood actors do the same thing, but there's a much larger pool and length of time between works for most. In anime, many American voice actors are insanely prolific by acting/performance standards. If I'm focused on a voice, I'm not focused on the story as much as I'd like to be, so in those cases, no matter how good the dub, I'll put on a sub instead if it's possible.

@DBZ_universe:

Exactly. You get some of that in the first series, but where FMA: B shines is in how well it translates Arakawa's character development onto the screen. Plus, every show I've seen animated by Studio BONES gets more and more beautiful than the last. I'm excited for their new one, ZETSUEN NO TEMPEST, just to look at the animation (thought I imagine it'll be a solid story, too).

Post by sotyfan16 (1,340 posts) See mini bio Level 20

@NickTapalansky:

Granted. Anime VAs are prolific and are credited to a lot of shows. I wish more Hollywood talent would do anime roles so we could get some variation and possibly some better characterization.

If you get focused on voices then I doubt you would enjoy Afro Samurai since it has the voices of Ron Perlman, Samuel L Jackson, Kelly Hu, Lucy Liu, and some well-known anime talent. Other examples are Matthew Lillard in the Karas films and Keifer Sutherland in the Armitage movies.

It could be me but I'll pay attention to the voices long enough to decide whether I like them as the character and then move on. I could just be accustomed to quickly accepting the voice and watching for the story the rest of the time.

Even so, I suggest at least checking out the dubs of most any series you watch just to hear what it sounds like. I prefer watching dub for some simple reasons but especially so if I really like the voice cast and the series. Though sometimes I am disappointed in a dub (after first seeing a show in sub) and it takes a bit away from my enjoyment.

You don't seem to have much an issue with the whole Sub vs. Dub debate but essentially that is what it all comes down to. Personal preference my good man.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,385 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@NickTapalansky: Alright I'll check it out!!

Post by NickTapalansky (63 posts) See mini bio Level 8
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@sotyfan16:

You know, hearing Hollywood voices in anime doesn't bother me. In fact, I thought Sam Jackson was the best part of AFRO SAMURAI next to the animation (the story was a distant last for me, despite liking the concept; I just never felt invested in the characters). The issue for me is when I go right from, say ROSARIO + VAMPIRE to BAKA AND TEST and hear the same voice coming from two pink-haired main characters. There are literally hundreds of other examples, but that one literally just happened to me so it's at the front of my brain.

I used to be hardcore "subs only" when possible because it was what I grew up watching once I realized the DiC dub of SAILOR MOON was an abomination of the original, despite my love for it. That was also around the time I wound up in Chinatown a lot with a bag full of bootleg fansubs, which meant I was watching tons of shows that wouldn't be localized for years. Being 12/13/14 at the time, it was a formative point in my development as a fan (not to mention a person) and I got really set in my ways. There were a few exceptions (the love it or hate it dub of NEON GENESIS EVANGELION, for instance, which I'll watch subbed or dubbed) but, for the most part, I continued chasing subs even after I got back into anime again circa 2005/6.

There are, however, a lot of shows where I prefer and enjoy the dub. In fact, I think tons of Funi's localization work (and others, but they stand out to me) over the last five or more years has been stellar as far as acting quality. My hang-up on voice variety aside, we've come a looooong way from the dark days of the early 90's. VA quality back then was pretty touch and go (as was, of course, translation and editing, but that's a separate issue for another day). Today you can put on most any Funi release and enjoy it in English without rolling your eyes or laughing inappropriately. And that's AWESOME.

Post by sotyfan16 (1,340 posts) See mini bio Level 20

@NickTapalansky:

The tough part about some VAs is they get typecasted as certain characters (though Chris Sabat's roles never disappoint me). But I found the Baka dub to be fine while the Rosario dub is pretty bad (one of FUNi's worst in recent years). What burns me is when VAs will not change their voice to suit different characters or are cast anyway when there are others would could do the voice and keep the character's personality.

I understand where you are coming from with growing up with subs. For me it was the opposite as I grew up with the DBZ, Tenchi, and Gundam dubs on Toonami. After a long break and coming back to anime I primarily watched dub shows until I found out I could watch new shows each week in sub. So while there are some series I'll watch the dub for, most series I've seen now I first saw in sub. I enjoy being able to compare.

I agree FUNi has done the best in recent time as there aren't many dubs from the company I don't like. However, I feel in the past year Sentai has been doing the better VA work.

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