Best Version: Manga, 2003 Anime, or Brotherhood?

Topic started by Dream on Feb. 23, 2010. Last post by Nanatsu 4 years, 1 month ago.
Post by Dream (7,087 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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I have seen some debates in other forums regarding what source material they prefer of FMA considering the first series takes off in its own direction with plot as it gets close to the end of its first half which has been praised for being one of the few anime titles to create a successful diversion from its original source material. As for the 2009 series, it more closely follows the manga yet has been criticized by some for rushing through its events in the earlier episodes, more use of slapstick compared to the first series (which is the case in the manga) and seeming more like a cash-cow title milking from the manga's popularity with the show being catered for those who have been keeping up on the manga. So I guess the big question I'm wondering is what adaptation of FMA do you like most: the manga, the 2003 anime or Brotherhood?
Post by Morpheus (210 posts) See mini bio Level 5
Still catching up on the series.
 
Personally I usually always prefer the manga as it's the original. meaning it sticks closer to what the creator intended it to be, whilst anime usually changes things abit. Though this is not the case for Brotherhood as it sticks to the orignal manga pretty spot on. Though the 2003 anime is still great despite it's major changes. I'll probally say Brotherhood, not only does it stick to the manga, but the animation is nice to look at and the voice acting is top notch.
Post by Sigue (860 posts) See mini bio Level 8
I like the manga myself, but Brohood isn't bad since it follows the manga pretty closely.
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,157 posts) See mini bio Level 21
Brotherhood    
Post by John_Martone (2,992 posts) See mini bio Level 10
I fell way out of sync on Brotherhood. It was fun, but since I had read so much of the manga, I was hard pressed to make viewing a "priority."
 
In that way, I'm all about the manga, though I'm sure Brotherhood should probably "actually" win.
 
Oh, and 2003 was great, until like... the last 12 episodes.
Post by CharredKnight (74 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Brotherhood, frankly the first anime simply bored me a lot of times.  While I can see what they where trying, I just felt like they where simply not entertaining. 
 
Brotherhood on the other hand has been excellent, with great animation, and a really nice pace most of the time.  The second Greed vs. Wrath was easily better than any fight in the first series, just this intense battle between two homunculus.  You just have to love how Wrath throws Greed and while in mid air grabs his sword.  
Post by Lydian_Sel (178 posts) See mini bio Level 4
Brotherhood beyond a shadow of a doubt!!!
Post by John_Martone (2,992 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@CharredKnight: @Lydian_Sel said:

" Brotherhood beyond a shadow of a doubt!!! "

There's a doubt! Have either of you read the manga? I watched the simulcast till like, 16 or so, but having read the manga it just didn't excite me the same way.
 
I'll be giving it a go when the dvds come out, but brotherhood doesn't seem like a facestomp on the manga. Plus, I digged how the anime focused on the alchemist's emotions. What they lost to create the homunculus. Brotherhood is great, but it loses the "importance" of the individual alchemist, and how their actions/flaws created the problems they live in.
 
You know, minus that "brother in a metal suit" thing. They have to live with that, but you know what I mean.
Post by Lydian_Sel (178 posts) See mini bio Level 4
@John_Martone said:

" @CharredKnight: @Lydian_Sel said:

" Brotherhood beyond a shadow of a doubt!!! "

There's a doubt! Have either of you read the manga? I watched the simulcast till like, 16 or so, but having read the manga it just didn't excite me the same way.  I'll be giving it a go when the dvds come out, but brotherhood doesn't seem like a facestomp on the manga. Plus, I digged how the anime focused on the alchemist's emotions. What they lost to create the homunculus. Brotherhood is great, but it loses the "importance" of the individual alchemist, and how their actions/flaws created the problems they live in.  You know, minus that "brother in a metal suit" thing. They have to live with that, but you know what I mean. "
 I don't consider Brotherhood to be a facestomp in any sense & admittedly I haven't read as much of the manga as I've seen of the anime/s but I have personally enjoyed Brotherhood the most. I can understand where you're coming from by saying that Brotherhood probably detracts from some of the more poignant issues in the series & that's probably directly related to its faster pace which is honestly one of the things that makes me like it more. I've always been a fan of BONES & Brotherhood seems to capture a pace that I've long wished more anime titles would appropriate so I'm never again faced with a ratio of 4 episode of opponents starring each other down & trash talking to 1 episode of something actually happening. Regardless of whatever story elements or plot devices are neglected during this hasty retelling of the Elric Brother's tale I'm much more inclined & excited to experience it in this format.
 
...Also it looks gorgeous.
Post by John_Martone (2,992 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@Lydian_Sel: Oh, there is no question of its gorgeousness, though didn't Bones do the original as well? The original series was also pretty sharp.
 
I think that the original series had such potential. Like, take for example
In the Manga, its pretty uninspired. The guy has an entire chapter dedicated to him, despite like... never showing up. Insta-red shirt.
While in the original series, they knew what was going to happen, and layered him in a little heavier earlier. Not changing his role, but kinda upping his visibility/eventual tragedy
Also,
Post by Lydian_Sel (178 posts) See mini bio Level 4
@John_Martone: 
 
 Bones did do the original as well & in its day it looked great, it still looks fine now but Bones has really gone above & beyond the call of duty with their animation prowess since (in my humble fanboy opinion). As for those two specific instances I really didn't find Brotherhood to take anything away from them, I was still moved & in awe. As it stands right now
It's obvious we're going to have to agree to disagree on this matter being that your heart is obviously with the original series & mine with Brotherhood but I sincerely hope that when Brotherhood ends its run you'll take a look back. I really think it will stand on its own & deliver a different yet equally entertaining experience than the original. 
 
 
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7

i hate to say it but anime is better
Post by CharredKnight (74 posts) See mini bio Level 8

   @John_Martone:
uh Greed last a lot more than one chapter in the manga  
 

Father melted Greed down to his original Philosopher's stone and wiped his memory, which he regains when he kills Bido.  Greed has never died in the manga or Brotherhood.

 
Frankly their are just some things I felt that the first anime badly handled, in particular the first anime seemed to think that just because Ed was the main  character that the show must revolve entirely around Ed, with Al being reduced to a side character.   When events happened to other characters such as the child birth scene with Winry, they must happen to Ed instead.
 

In particular  Hughes death seems to hit Ed harder than it did with Mustang, who promptly forget about Hughes so he doesn't get in the way of Envy's over the top odepidus complex just because every villain must be some evil counterpart for Ed. 

 
Don't even get me started on how stupid the main villain is,I mean her ultimate goal is something the main villain of the manga mass produces, which reminds me out of every series I have seen of Seiji Mizushima every villain is a complete idiot.  I think it might be something he wants to say about evil, but good lord is his villains awful.,

 

 

 


Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@John_Martone said:
" @Lydian_Sel: Oh, there is no question of its gorgeousness, though didn't Bones do the original as well? The original series was also pretty sharp.
 
I think that the original series had such potential. Like, take for example
In the Manga, its pretty uninspired. The guy has an entire chapter dedicated to him, despite like... never showing up. Insta-red shirt.
While in the original series, they knew what was going to happen, and layered him in a little heavier earlier. Not changing his role, but kinda upping his visibility/eventual tragedy
Also,
"
nah i don't think hughes was a red shirt, ussually those character have no persoanility, have no connection, and can't do anything, hughes on the other hand
Post by CharredKnight (74 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Anyone who wants to see why the manga/Brotherhood is better just read chapter 105.  Amazing, simply amazing, it's the fact that Hiromu Arakawa has created an ensemble cast of characters that are all badass.  When I first saw the first anime, Hohenheim came off like a complete idiot who did nothing of any real value, he was just there because he was a character from the manga, the fact that they showed the picture of him and his family was only because it contained Trisha.   
 
In the manga his awesome, the most powerful human being alive, the scene where the Elric brothers rally behind him to help him shield everyone from Father's attack is simply incredible, you simply did not see scenes like that, because Aikawa and Mizushima simply lacked the ability to make such a scene.  There's a reason why manga like Fullmetal Alchemist, One Piece, and Negima are better than manga like Bleach and Naruto and that's because the creators can use all the cast members where as Naruto and Bleach can only really imagine the main character standing alone as the hero.  It's because they create characters for little reason that Naruto and Bleach are not to the level of those three.
Post by Afroman269 (28 posts) See mini bio Level 9
The 2003 anime is better. Brotherhood rushed a lot of story elements that were fleshed out in the 2003 anime also the old one was more serious. Brotherhood is a little too "anime" for me.
Post by Nanatsu (322 posts) See mini bio Level 7
Manga --> Brotherhood -----------------------------------> 2003 anime
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