Shonen Jump Celebrates Its 100th Issue

Topic started by No_name_here on March 3, 2011. Last post by AgentJ 3 years, 9 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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 Goku still looms large over his fellows.
 Goku still looms large over his fellows.

It’s been a while since we’ve run news on this site, but we figured that the occasion of SHONEN JUMP’s 100 issue necessitated discussion. We received word from Viz that this issue’s quite the anniversary bash, featuring familiar favorites from DRAGONBALL, BLEACH, YU-GI-OH! and NARUTO all together for some special mayhem. There’s even a crossover between DRAGONBALL and ONE PIECE in the issue that I’m pretty sure will just be swelling with “preposterone” and over 9,000 flying fists.

Seeing this makes me think of what I heard and observed at last year’s Anime Expo - - a lingering question about the health of the anime/manga biz today. Reaching any kind of publishing milestone would at least seem to speak to healthy performance, but  I suppose the release of this volume is sadly timely and coincidental to the distressing counterpoint of the shake-ups at Tokyopop.

I suppose I’m more curious to see how relevant an anthology magazines is to the Anime Vice community. How many of you are keeping up with SHONEN JUMP? Is it merely an entry level sampler that points you to specific, individual series that you’ll focus your attention on? Or is it still the lynch pin of your habit?

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Post by sickVisionz (4,311 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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I keep up with the series in Shonen Jump but I don't buy it.  $4.99 for the amount of content that it has that I'm interested in is a deal.  All of the chapters being a few months behind the Japanese ones is a deal breaker.
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,649 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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 Who cares? I'm eating.
 Who cares? I'm eating.
VIZ Published?........Pass! This is the U.S. version of Shounen Jump hitting 100, right? The original in Japan has been in publication since 1968. That hit 100 a long time ago. The real Shounen Jump is released weekly, year around. The U.S. version is just an overpriced imitation of the original.
 
To celebrate Shounen Jump they're publishing Cross Epoch that was released in 2006 in Japan and adds nothing to either story. How about to celebrate VIZ swears they will stop censoring manga. Now THAT is something I'd be greatly interested in. The online audience doesn't want VIZs censored versions of stories. They want the real story. So far, scanlations are the only ones providing that.
 
The Shounen Jump magazine isn't even worth it in the U.S. It's pretty much superfluous. Why would I want to buy a loose magazine then buy the collected volume version. It's just buying the same thing twice.
Post by Lurkero (418 posts) See mini bio Level 7
Dang, I didn't make it in before the FoxxFireArt rant against Viz.
 
I don't really care for manga so Shonen Jump has very little value to me, but I can see why someone who regularly collects shonen manga would want to purchase it. Honestly I'd rather wait until a volume is collected and just buy individual series that I like (if I did collect manga).
Post by tigerex78 (7 posts) See mini bio Level 15
This magazine helps get many into manga.  The complaints that it is a cheap imitation of the one over in Japan is warranted but what many fail to understand is that we are a different culture and the magazine is targeting a specific audience.  In Japan Crayon Shin Chan is a kids show.  Over here it would never get seen by kids because of its content.  If the manga was uncensored in this magazine it wouldn't sell well and would be gone in a short time.  That or it would be much more expensive.  The chapters being behind the Japanese ones is understandable because they have to be translated first.  The whining about these things is disappointing.  Honestly, some of you don't realize that if it hadn't been for people translating and editing anime and manga and bringing them here to the U.S.  many of us would never even know about these series.  In fact this site wouldn't even exist in its current form without those censored manga and anime.
Post by sora_thekey (1,097 posts) See mini bio Level 16
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I don't read Shounen Jump because I enjoy the volumes rather than a conjunction of different series. 100 is still an amazing number to reach! So congrats to Jump! 
 
@FoxxFireArt
said:
"VIZ Published?........Pass! This is the U.S. version of Shounen Jump hitting 100, right? The original in Japan has been in publication since 1968. That hit 100 a long time ago. The real Shounen Jump is released weekly, year around. The U.S. version is just an overpriced imitation of the original."
Doesn't the Japanese Shounen Jump have different styles of publications... not just a mainstream one, like the Akamaru Jump and such? (I learned all this in Bakuman) 
 
@lurkero said:
" Dang, I didn't make it in before the FoxxFireArt rant against Viz. "
lol! 
Post by ShadowKnight508 (5,358 posts) See mini bio Level 19
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Hmm...I still subscribe to Shonen Jump (been a subscriber since 2009) mainly for the Bleach and One Piece manga and I look at the Naruto manga from time to time as well. I think that it is worth my investment, even if it is published and "censored" by VIZ Media.
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,649 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@sora_thekey: 
Shounen Jump in Japan has several different magazines. This is closer to an imitation of the weekly series that has One Piece, Naruto, BLEACH, and others. It's how readers in Japan keep up with the very latest in the story. A few months later those chapters are separated into a volume format and sold in Japan. It's published very week throughout the year with a break around national holidays. With fifty-two weeks in a year. They reach 100 issues very two years or so.
 
That's why I call the the VIZ version an overpriced imitation. It doesn't keep you up to date on the story. it's censored, and a waste of paper.
Post by ZombiePie (861 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@FoxxFireArt:  FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!!!! JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR YOUR SINS!!!!!!!!!!!
 
PRAISE WHITE JESUS AND GEORGE BUSH!
  
Post by AgentJ (1,545 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@FoxxFireArt said:
"
 Who cares? I'm eating.
 Who cares? I'm eating.
VIZ Published?........Pass! This is the U.S. version of Shounen Jump hitting 100, right? The original in Japan has been in publication since 1968. That hit 100 a long time ago. The real Shounen Jump is released weekly, year around. The U.S. version is just an overpriced imitation of the original.
 
To celebrate Shounen Jump they're publishing Cross Epoch that was released in 2006 in Japan and adds nothing to either story. How about to celebrate VIZ swears they will stop censoring manga. Now THAT is something I'd be greatly interested in. The online audience doesn't want VIZs censored versions of stories. They want the real story. So far, scanlations are the only ones providing that.
 
The Shounen Jump magazine isn't even worth it in the U.S. It's pretty much superfluous. Why would I want to buy a loose magazine then buy the collected volume version. It's just buying the same thing twice. "
 They're the publisher of the uncensored Tenjho Tenge, so they're at least making progress. 
 
As for JUMP, I bought into it early on when I was still on the outside of the Manga scene, but by the point that I was buying all the corresponding manga that came in the magazine (not to mention cancellations, and then putting Bleach IN, which slowed release to a snails crawl) I found it repetitive and superfluous.
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,649 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@AgentJ: 
Just because VIZ doesn't censor everything they publish is no excuse for censoring anything. In the books they censor they are only producing an inferior product and not the real story.
 
It's not as if they have just stopped censorship. It was only a few months ago they painted out the cigarette from Shikamaru's mouth in Naruto. So, the bloody violent murder of Asuma was fine, but Shikamaru taking one puff of a cigarette was too controversial for VIZ. They're still doing it and they aren't stopping.
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,389 posts) See mini bio Level 21
Why Shonen Jump can't be own by someone who care for anime/manga fans :(
Post by AgentJ (1,545 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@FoxxFireArt said:
" @AgentJ: 
Just because VIZ doesn't censor everything they publish is no excuse for censoring anything. In the books they censor they are only producing an inferior product and not the real story.
 
It's not as if they have just stopped censorship. It was only a few months ago they painted out the cigarette from Shikamaru's mouth in Naruto. So, the bloody violent murder of Asuma was fine, but Shikamaru taking one puff of a cigarette was too controversial for VIZ. They're still doing it and they aren't stopping. "
I said they were making PROGRESS, not that they're GOD.
Post by ZombiePie (861 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@AgentJ:  Yes they are. They are protecting our children from Japanese un-Christian paganistic beliefs. Viz Media is doing the Lord's work by protecting our children from drug, sex, and anti-Christian imagery. This is the United States of Jesus, and we have to take action by resisting the propaganda from an un-Christian nation.
Post by AgentJ (1,545 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@zombiepie said:
" @AgentJ:  Yes they are. They are protecting our children from Japanese un-Christian paganistic beliefs. Viz Media is doing the Lord's work by protecting our children from drug, sex, and anti-Christian imagery. This is the United States of Jesus, and we have to take action by resisting the propaganda from an un-Christian nation. "
Well, they might be, but that wasn't what I was saying... 
(praise Victorious Imaculate Zenu!)
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,389 posts) See mini bio Level 21
@zombiepie:  
You do know that everybody in the United States isn't all Christian :(
Post by ZombiePie (861 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@Destinyheroknight:  Not a requirement to see that anime is a source of vice and sin!
  
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,649 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@AgentJ: 
The fact they are still censoring and have made no statement that they aren't going to censor anymore isn't progress. They go out of their way to avoid letting people know about the real stories. They want to pretend their version of these series is the real one and it's not. Progress would be to stop altering series they have been censoring. Not that they aren't altering series they weren't changing to begin with.
 
They can't say they don't want people to use scanlations when scanlations are the only source for the real stories in English. Other publishers are making progress. Del Rey and Yen Press. I don't know of any real censorship they do to manga stories.
 
I've never asked them to be God. I've only wanted them to be a high quality manga publisher. What they claim to be. What they put out is more often inferior to what the fans translate, and they don't even seem the least bit ashamed of that.
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,389 posts) See mini bio Level 21
@zombiepie:  
You can say that for Video Games, TV, Cartoons, and Music  
What make anime so different?  
This is why I don't go to church, they trying to control everything by saying it is evil 
Post by AgentJ (1,545 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@FoxxFireArt: Del Ray and Yen Press, at least within themselves, haven't made progress, because they haven't changed. Viz, on the other hand, is taking a series whose nearly only attribute is its gratuitous fanservice and violence, created by an artist who previously was known for what could only be called porn manga. That is the definition of progress. They haven't dropped all censorship from every title, granted, but one title is indeed a step in the right direction, and indeed progress.  
 
Another example of progress: censoring Bleach in Shonen Jump (a decision I fully support), but leaving it uncensored in the manga version (One I also support) 
 
Do I wish Sanji still smoked, and Greed was still hung on a cross-shaped slab. or that Hiruma said "FUCKING KILL THEM"? Absolutely. But if Viz keeps the "swastika" when the latest chapters of Bleach make it here (in three years...) then that will have qualified as huge progress. 
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