Weak Male Roles

Topic started by SilverGalford on March 27, 2013. Last post by DBZ_universe 1 year, 3 months ago.
Post by SilverGalford (2,951 posts) See mini bio Level 11

hello guys , well i want to talk about something that i have noticed in anime , here is the thing , why must the male character in many animes has to be weak or with a non hax power?

for example :

Sailor Moon, Tuxedo mask is weak and Serena is too powerful , she protects him.

Diebuster , the robot is too Overpowered and piloted by a girl.

Eureka seven , a girl again is the hero more powerful than the male character

Slayers, Lina is too Overpowered and Gourry sucks

Evangelion , although shinji is the main character , he is a crybaby wimp.

Magic Knight Rayearth , don't even ask.

Tenchi Muyo , at the beginning tenchi masaki was weak the powerful ones were the chousins with female design

and so on.

the rest of the male characters are at planetary ,street and mountain level.

saint seiya and dbz are the ones that i see with some balance.

LOL! why do we have to see always Sailor Moon beating DBZ ? why cannot we see Sailor Moon being beaten by overpowered male anime characters?

like seriously ,can't the japanese create more male powerful characters like Dark Schneider and also as the main character? . dude even in that manga porno diano was too overpowered and if i'm not wrong stronger than darsh.

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,180 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@SilverGalford:

Slayers, Lina is too Overpowered and Gourry sucks

Gourry pull Lina from being taken to the Sea Of Chaos, anybody else would have die

Gourry easily kick Lina's party butts

The only reason you think Gourry sucks is because he don't use magic like the others

Also Lina isn't that overpower, next to her older sister

Also it seem like you don't watch that must of Shonen anime LOL!

Post by MarioRedfield (1,728 posts) See mini bio Level 11

What about DBZ where all the most powerful characters are male, or Bleach, or as DestinyHero said any of the Shonen animes?

Also, yeah Darsh might beat Sailor Moon, he can beat a lot of characters. I even admitted on ComicVine he could school Superman, Thor, and Goku (I think that was the combination) at once. but he's also in my opinion one of the worst characters ever conceived... that might be because he goes against every feminist bone in my body among other things... that I can't mention...

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,180 posts) See mini bio Level 21
saint seiya and dbz are the ones that i see with some balance.

They have no balance, it mostly males are stronger.

LOL! why do we have to see always Sailor Moon beating DBZ ? why cannot we see Sailor Moon being beaten by overpowered male anime characters?

Because people like to using popular series or shows that everyone knows (since Sailor Moon and DBZ is popular and everyone know them)

Evangelion , although shinji is the main character , he is a crybaby wimp.

That the point, it a Deconstruction of super robots shows. Those shows have really strong male characters, Shinji is the polar opposite of them

Magic Knight Rayearth , don't even ask.
Sailor Moon, Tuxedo mask is weak and Serena is too powerful , she protects him.

They are shojo series, for little girls

Tenchi Muyo , at the beginning tenchi masaki was weak the powerful ones were the chousins with female design

The chousins wasn't really in the beginning, Tenchi was the most powerful before and after they show up

Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,732 posts) See mini bio Level 20

@SilverGalford said:

Tenchi Muyo , at the beginning tenchi masaki was weak the powerful ones were the chousins with female design

Don't forget that tenchi was also portrayed as pathetic and quite pitiful as well as weak.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,499 posts) See mini bio Level 17

I like strong girls!

Sumiko Sumimura is a beast!

Post by Sonata (35,218 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@SilverGalford: LOL that is what Shounen is for. 
 
@DBZ_universe: Me too!XD
Post by SilverGalford (2,951 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@Sonata said:

@SilverGalford: LOL that is what Shounen is for.

@DBZ_universe: Me too!XD

I Know lol but come on, do we need to see only male characters like Bleach one piece DBZ and Naruto mostly? it would be great if many male characters like Darsh were made.

Also it seem like you don't watch that must of Shonen anime LOL!

.i have watched shonen and shoujo too but think about this:

I have watched Yuyu hakusho,Kenshin,Tekkaman Blade, Gungrave,Zenki, Inuyasha, Trigun,Hunter X Hunter , Samurai Champloo ,Cowboy Bebop, Fist of the north star ,even Naruto Bleach and One Piece (although i don't like them) and the like , but seriously they are not at Lina Inverse level ,nor Sailor Moon level, it's not that i like shoujo more than shonen , the thing is why must many female characters be too overpowered while many male ones are that weak? , Do the male japanese like to feel inferior to women? it's something that i was wondering too.

the only ones i have seen really powerful are Saint seiya , Bastard and probably Shaman King , and i think anime needs more likes them.

I like strong girls!

i like strong female characters too , but when this issue is too overused it's kinda annoying.

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,180 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@SilverGalford:

Some of those shows you just name is past Lina level, her normal level is city buster and her strength and speed level is superhuman at best. The only reason why she can beat them is that she can call upon the Lord Of Nightmares power. But that power is a double edge sword, she won't use the Giga Slave (she don't want to be taken over by LON) and the Ragna Blade is to dangerous (it way to easy to dodge). Lina have power, but she is to slow next to those guys. The only reason she can win is because she out of character

Can't really find a good one for Naruto (since I stop watching it)

Those attacks I just show you can easily smash Lina's Dragon Slave barrier before she could cast it

Sailor Moon I don't really care for, to say anything (but she is low tier on my list)

Kami Tenchi (guy)

Lord Of Nightmares (isn't a guy or a lady)

Demonbane (guy)

ZeedMillenniummon (isn't a guy or a lady)

Darsh (guy)

This is my top five strongest anime/manga characters, there isn't a lady on there (well, there is LON who sometime take a form of a girl to mess with people). I didn't even get to Saint Seiya or Gurren Lagann yet.

Of the anime and manga I have read, there is a even number. (it not as one sided as you say) Heck, in Slayers the most powerful beings don't have a gender

Also I don't care how powerful is the male or female, it not a problem for me.

Post by Fat_Magnum (2,493 posts) See mini bio Level 16

@SilverGalford said:

Do the male japanese like to feel inferior to women? it's something that i was wondering too.

My guess is no. I'm no anthropologist or sociologist but my understanding is that it is currently, and always has been, a very male dominated society. Unless of course you mean in a fetishistic sense, then who knows?

I suppose you meant fighting-ability 'strong'? Most anime seem to center around a mostly, if not entirely, male cast. Portrayals of stronger females (strong in more than one sense) wouldn't hurt anything, imo.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,499 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@SilverGalford: IDK, I think strong women make the series a lot more interesting! tho DBZ is an exception since Broly and Gohan are my favorite.

Post by Supreme Marvel (5,067 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@DBZ_universe: Bulma is a strong woman in DB. Assertive, smart, independent along with other qualities. Along with Chi Chi, Videl and 18. They have a lot of similar qualities. One particular quality is their male half's are scared of them. Including Vegeta. Imagine the girl that would tame Broly. :P

Post by Kurohige (3,681 posts) See mini bio Level 19
Well, same can be said with comics and female costume designs, but as the rest have said it's back and forth, there are plenty of dominant males, hell I remember in shounen when the females were just healers or damsels in distress so I don't see where you are coming from. 
 
@MarioRedfield said:


Also, yeah Darsh might beat Sailor Moon, he can beat a lot of characters. I even admitted on ComicVine he could school Superman, Thor, and Goku (I think that was the combination) at once. but he's also in my opinion one of the worst characters ever conceived... that might be because he goes against every feminist bone in my body among other things... that I can't mention...

Haha, you changed a lot from a few years back, never thought I head Marioo say Superman, let alone Superman and friends get stomped. I do agree on Darsh since to a feminist almost any character with a harem can be seen as tacky and disgusting. I must say I respect those who can come out and say they are feminist for as much shit they get for being one XD
Post by DBZ_universe (15,499 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Supreme Marvel said:

@DBZ_universe: Bulma is a strong woman in DB. Assertive, smart, independent along with other qualities. Along with Chi Chi, Videl and 18. They have a lot of similar qualities. One particular quality is their male half's are scared of them. Including Vegeta. Imagine the girl that would tame Broly. :P

That is very true. Goku was afraid if Chi Chi same with Gohan! Hell even in fillers Chi Chi made Piccolo get a drivers license!

Well the girl that would tame Broly would be legend in DBZ and that would be an awesome thing to see.

Tho a SSJ girl would be awesome! I think Bulla has the potential to do it since she is half blood.

Post by Supreme Marvel (5,067 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@DBZ_universe said:

Tho a SSJ girl would be awesome! I think Bulla has the potential to do it since she is half blood.

I think Pan has more potential.

To me there is nothing special about royalty. The Queen of our country, I see nothing special. Her ancestors fought with armies for that place. No cosmic entity gave her that position of power, nor is her blood special in some way. The same, for me, applies for Vegeta and his bloodline. We know what they used to be a long time ago. Savages. None of their species was given anything special. It was just the strongest at the time. That person became the king and they continued that having stronger children.

Guess what, Goku and Gohan easily out did these "royalties". Therefore, it leads me to believe Pan will out do them to.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,499 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Supreme Marvel said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Tho a SSJ girl would be awesome! I think Bulla has the potential to do it since she is half blood.

I think Pan has more potential.

To me there is nothing special about royalty. The Queen of our country, I see nothing special. Her ancestors fought with armies for that place. No cosmic entity gave her that position of power, nor is her blood special in some way. The same, for me, applies for Vegeta and his bloodline. We know what they used to be a long time ago. Savages. None of their species was given anything special. It was just the strongest at the time. That person became the king and they continued that having stronger children.

Guess what, Goku and Gohan easily out did these "royalties". Therefore, it leads me to believe Pan will out do them to.

I agree 100% but the only reason I said Bulla was because she is more Saiyan.

Tho Pan has more potential as she is the daughter of Gohan and she trains with Goku. yeah she has the potential. So yes, I agree and go back on my comment.

also Chi Chi knows Kaioken XD

Post by Supreme Marvel (5,067 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@DBZ_universe said:

@Supreme Marvel said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Tho a SSJ girl would be awesome! I think Bulla has the potential to do it since she is half blood.

I think Pan has more potential.

To me there is nothing special about royalty. The Queen of our country, I see nothing special. Her ancestors fought with armies for that place. No cosmic entity gave her that position of power, nor is her blood special in some way. The same, for me, applies for Vegeta and his bloodline. We know what they used to be a long time ago. Savages. None of their species was given anything special. It was just the strongest at the time. That person became the king and they continued that having stronger children.

Guess what, Goku and Gohan easily out did these "royalties". Therefore, it leads me to believe Pan will out do them to.

I agree 100% but the only reason I said Bulla was because she is more Saiyan.

Tho Pan has more potential as she is the daughter of Gohan and she trains with Goku. yeah she has the potential. So yes, I agree and go back on my comment.

Plus she actually trains. Bulla is pretty much Bulma. They should release DBG (Girls). Just stories about them.

also Chi Chi knows Kaioken XD

That based on Garlick Jr Saga?

Post by MarioRedfield (1,728 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@Kurohige said:

Well, same can be said with comics and female costume designs, but as the rest have said it's back and forth, there are plenty of dominant males, hell I remember in shounen when the females were just healers or damsels in distress so I don't see where you are coming from.

@MarioRedfield said:

Also, yeah Darsh might beat Sailor Moon, he can beat a lot of characters. I even admitted on ComicVine he could school Superman, Thor, and Goku (I think that was the combination) at once. but he's also in my opinion one of the worst characters ever conceived... that might be because he goes against every feminist bone in my body among other things... that I can't mention...

Haha, you changed a lot from a few years back, never thought I head Marioo say Superman, let alone Superman and friends get stomped. I do agree on Darsh since to a feminist almost any character with a harem can be seen as tacky and disgusting. I must say I respect those who can come out and say they are feminist for as much shit they get for being one XD

Lol, well there are probably some versions of Superman that could put Darsh in his place, but I'm unsure of that. I just know the standard New 52, Post-Crisis, Post-Infinite Crisis, etc whatever would lose miserably.

Feminists tend to get so much because a lot complain about the dumbest things. Like for example some complained about a God of War trophy called "Bros before hos"... it's like really... and of course there are the radical feminists who are the anti-thesis to my whole philosophy. Some try to exert the idea that women are superior to men, which is why a lot of men probably have the misconception that feminism is a bad thing. Because some feminists do have some stupid ideas. But it's like comparing people on the left wing, more moderates are Liberals, which a lot see as a good thing, but on the extreme of the left is Communism, which no one in their right mind sees as a good thing.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,499 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Supreme Marvel: Dragon ball Girls would be awesome! I think 18's would be the most interesting.

also Chi Chi knows Kaioken XD

That based on Garlick Jr Saga?

Yup! Chi Chi knows the Kaioken! (tho just filler but still cool feat for her)

Post by killermike (321 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@SilverGalford said:

hello guys , well i want to talk about something that i have noticed in anime , here is the thing , why must the male character in many animes has to be weak or with a non hax power?

What are you talking about?

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