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Current NBA Standings by conference:

EAST:
1. Boston 25-2
2. Cleveland 22-4
3. Orlando 20-6
4. Atlanta 16-10
5. Detroit 14-10
6. Miami 13-12
7. New Jersey 13-12
8. Philadelphia 12-14
9. Chicago 12-14
10. Milwaukee 12-16
11. New York 11-15
12. Toronto 10-16
13. Indiana 9-17
14. Charlotte 9-18
15. Washington 4-20

WEST:
1. Lakers 21-4
2. New Orleans 15-7
3. Houston 17-9
4. Denver 17-9
5. Portland 17-10
6. Utah 17-11
7. San Antonio 15-10
8. Phoenix 15-11
9. Dallas 14-11
10. Memphis 9-17
11. Clippers 8-18
12. Sacramento 7-20
13. Golden State 7-20
14. Minnesota 4-21
15. Oklahoma City 3-24

YESTERDAY'S RESULTS:
Clippers beat Pacers 117-109
Philadelphia beats Washington 109-103
Golden State loses to Hawks 99-115
Chicago loses to Boston 108-125
Dallas loses to New Jersey 97-121
Milwaukee beats New York 105-81
Utah beats Detroit 120-114
Charlotte beats Memphis 112-83
Lakers lose to Miami 87-89
Toronto loses to Oklahoma City 83-91
Sacramento loses to Houston 96-107
Cleveland beats Denver 105-88

Notable Injuries Around the League:
Elton Brand: Dislocated Shoulder (Out at least a month)
Brandon Roy: Torn Tendon in Pinky*
Corey Maggette: Strained Right (Unknown how long he will be out... already missed 6 games)
Rafer Alston: Strained Hamstring (Could Return Monday)
Carlos Boozer: Strained Left Quad Tendon and Bruised Patella (Unknown how long he will be out... got another MRI on Thursday)
Gilbert Arenas: Still recovering from his knee surgery (May return to action in January)

Today's Games:
Lakers at Orlando
Golden State at Charlotte
Indiana at Philadelphia
Miami at New Jersey
Houston at Minnesota
Sacramento at New Orleans
Clippers at Milwaukee
Utah at Chicago
Toronto at San Antonio
Denver at Phoenix

Great Performances (from yesterday) :
Devin Harris: 41 Points on 14-25 shooting, 5-9 in 3's, 13 Assists, 3 Rebounds, 3 Steals

Dwayne Wade: 35 Points on 13-25 shooting, 2-4 in 3's, 6 Rebounds, 3 Assists

Im am truly disgraced by the NBA taking my Seattle SuperSonics and turning them into Oklahoma City Thunder. No free agents will come there and they're on the verge of being the worst NBA team ever! But I still love the game.

The move to Oklahoma City was pretty dumb. They pretty much ended an (almost) classic franchise and moved it to a place where it will not attract as much players and fans.

That and their new colors are pretty ugly.

Katsuro_Igarashi said:

"The move to Oklahoma City was pretty dumb. They pretty much ended an (almost) classic franchise and moved it to a place where it will not attract as much players and fans.

That and their new colors are pretty ugly."

Yeah that burns me pretty good.

orz said:

"Derrick Rose is rookie of the year"

Possibly. He's playing well, but it's still only 27 games into the season. He may go through a stretch of games where he doesn't play well, or some other rookie might start playing better. But for right now, Derrick Rose is the favorite to get it.

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Jewel said:

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Jewel said:

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O.J. Mayo is ROY

Results:

Lakers lose to Orlando 103-106
Golden State beats Charlotte 110-103
Indiana beats Philadelphia 95-94
Miami beats New Jersey 106-103
Houston beats Minnesota 109-102
Sacramento loses to New Orleans 90-99
Clippers lose to Milwaukee 85-119
Utah loses to Chicago 98-106
Toronto loses to San Antonio 97-107
Denver loses to Phoenix 101-108

Next Games:
Detroit @ Atlanta
Dallas @ Washington
New York @ Boston
Cleveland @ Oklahoma City

Katsuro's Game Predictions:
Atlanta will beat Detroit by at least 6
Dallas will beat Washington by at least 10
Boston will beat New York by at least 11
Cleveland will beat Oklahoma City by around 20

Scoring Leaders (From NBA.Com):

PLAYER NAME, TEAM NAME		GP	MPG	PTS	FGM-FGA	FG%	3PM-3PA	3P%	FTM-FTA	FT%
1	Dwyane Wade , MIA	26	36.8	28.8	10.1-20.7	.487	.8-3.1	.263	7.9-10.3	.765
2	LeBron James , CLE	26	35.8	27.5	9.6-19.1	.503	1.2-4.2	.278	7.2-9.0	.798
3	Dirk Nowitzki , DAL	25	38.1	26.3	9.5-20.5	.464	1.1-2.9	.389	6.1-6.8	.905
4	Kobe Bryant , LAL	26	35.0	25.8	9.3-20.2	.462	1.0-3.2	.310	6.1-6.9	.878
5	Devin Harris , NJN	23	36.5	24.4	7.3-15.6	.469	1.0-3.0	.348	8.7-10.4	.841
6	Danny Granger , IND	24	36.4	24.4	8.3-18.7	.445	2.4-6.9	.352	5.3-6.0	.882
7	Brandon Roy , POR	27	37.1	23.4	8.1-17.1	.471	1.0-2.9	.364	6.2-7.3	.848
8	Chris Bosh , TOR	27	39.2	23.3	8.1-16.6	.490	.2-.7	.263	6.9-8.5	.817
9	Kevin Durant , OKC	26	37.8	23.2	8.5-18.5	.459	1.3-2.7	.465	5.0-5.9	.843
10	Vince Carter , NJN	26	37.1	22.9	8.0-17.4	.458	1.8-4.6	.392	5.2-6.5	.788
11	Joe Johnson , ATL	26	39.7	22.8	8.4-18.3	.459	2.3-6.4	.361	3.7-4.5	.814
12	Amar'e Stoudemire , PHX	27	38.5	22.4	7.9-14.1	.559	.1-.2	.600	6.5-7.9	.826
13	Al Jefferson , MIN	26	36.7	22.2	9.4-19.1	.493	.0-.1	.000	3.3-4.4	.763
14	Zach Randolph , LAC-NYK	24	37.8	22.1	8.6-18.5	.466	.7-2.1	.333	4.2-5.3	.781
15	Caron Butler , WAS	24	38.0	21.3	7.6-16.1	.474	1.0-3.1	.307	5.1-6.0	.860
16	Jason Terry , DAL	25	35.1	21.1	8.0-16.8	.473	2.0-5.6	.360	3.2-3.8	.832
17	Ben Gordon , CHI	27	36.3	20.9	7.2-15.8	.454	2.3-5.6	.413	4.2-5.0	.843
18	Kevin Martin , SAC	9	35.8	20.8	6.7-15.7	.426	1.4-4.7	.310	6.0-7.6	.794
19	Tim Duncan , SAS	26	35.4	20.7	8.0-15.5	.517	.0-.0	.000	4.6-6.6	.702
20	Dwight Howard , ORL	25	36.5	20.7	7.0-12.2	.570	.0-.0	.000	6.8-11.8	.575

Rebounding(From NBA.Com):

PLAYER NAME,TEAM NAME

GP

MPG

OFF

ORPG

DEF

DRPG

REB

RPG

RP40

1	Dwight Howard , ORL	24	36.7	110	4.6	228	9.5	338	14.1	18.4
2	Marcus Camby , LAC	23	33.8	72	3.1	212	9.2	284	12.3	17.5
3	Andris Biedrins , GSW	27	32.3	120	4.4	206	7.6	326	12.1	17.9
4	Carlos Boozer , UTA	12	33.8	43	3.6	97	8.1	140	11.7	16.6
5	Zach Randolph , LAC-NYK	23	38.4	85	3.7	177	7.7	262	11.4	14.2
6	Troy Murphy , IND	23	32.9	45	2.0	211	9.2	256	11.1	16.2
7	Emeka Okafor , CHA	27	34.1	105	3.9	187	6.9	292	10.8	15.2
8	Andrew Bogut , MIL	25	31.6	87	3.5	183	7.3	270	10.8	16.4
9	David Lee , NYK	26	33.0	75	2.9	204	7.8	279	10.7	15.6
10	Tim Duncan , SAS	25	35.4	74	3.0	194	7.8	268	10.7	14.5
11	Al Jefferson , MIN	25	36.4	78	3.1	176	7.0	254	10.2	13.4
12	Chris Bosh , TOR	26	39.3	73	2.8	186	7.2	259	10.0	12.2
13	Elton Brand , PHI	23	35.2	66	2.9	160	7.0	226	9.8	13.4
14	Ming Yao , HOU	25	33.9	69	2.8	175	7.0	244	9.8	13.8
15	Antawn Jamison , WAS	24	38.5	68	2.8	165	6.9	233	9.7	12.1
16	Pau Gasol , LAL	24	34.9	75	3.1	151	6.3	226	9.4	12.9
17	Chris Kaman , LAC	15	35.5	45	3.0	96	6.4	141	9.4	12.7
18	Kevin Garnett , BOS	26	32.9	41	1.6	198	7.6	239	9.2	13.4
19	Dirk Nowitzki , DAL	25	38.1	25	1.0	203	8.1	228	9.1	11.5
20	Shawn Marion , MIA	22	37.3	67

Assists Leaders (From NBA.Com):

PLAYER NAME, TEAM NAME

GP

MPG

AST

APG

TO

TOPG

AP48M

AST/TO

1	Chris Paul , NOH	23	37.5	271	11.8	66	2.9	15.1	4.11
2	Deron Williams , UTA	16	33.5	156	9.8	57	3.6	14.0	2.74
3	Jose Calderon , TOR	25	35.8	220	8.8	51	2.0	11.8	4.31
4	Steve Nash , PHX	24	34.3	205	8.5	90	3.8	12.0	2.28
5	Chris Duhon , NYK	26	39.7	221	8.5	73	2.8	10.3	3.03
6	Jason Kidd , DAL	25	35.9	203	8.1	66	2.6	10.8	3.08
7	Baron Davis , LAC	26	37.4	211	8.1	64	2.5	10.4	3.3
8	Rajon Rondo , BOS	27	31.6	206	7.6	62	2.3	11.6	3.32
9	Dwyane Wade , MIA	26	36.8	181	7.0	103	4.0	9.1	1.76
10	Chauncey Billups , DEN-DET	25	34.7	173	6.9	48	1.9	9.6	3.6
11	Devin Harris , NJN	23	36.5	155	6.7	59	2.6	8.9	2.63
12	Tony Parker , SAS	17	32.7	111	6.5	42	2.5	9.6	2.64
13	LeBron James , CLE	26	35.8	165	6.3	63	2.4	8.5	2.62
14	Raymond Felton , CHA	28	36.4	174	6.2	71	2.5	8.2	2.45
15	* Derrick Rose , CHI	27	38.3	167	6.2	73	2.7	7.8	2.29
16	Earl Watson , OKC	27	26.7	166	6.1	68	2.5	11.1	2.44
17	Andre Miller , PHI	27	35.7	165	6.1	55	2.0	8.2	3.0
18	Stephen Jackson , GSW	24	39.8	143	6.0	89	3.7	7.2	1.61
19	Allen Iverson , DET-DEN	23	38.6	133	5.8	70	3.0	7.2	1.9
20	T.J. Ford , IND	26	33.1	139	5.3	60	2.3	7.8	2.32

Any other league leader stats  you guys want posted?

Dwayne Wade will always be the best slasher in the NBA. Gets to the Free Throw line more than anyone else.

Rip Hamilton is a better slasher. Dwayne Wade is a better scorer.

Katsuro_Igarashi said:

"Rip Hamilton is a better slasher. Dwayne Wade is a better scorer."

NOOOOOO! Rip is the best player at cutting and moving without the baskeball aka Scoring with all the basketball. But hes no where near the threat that D-Wade is taking some one off the dribble and scoring. Hes not even in the upper echelon of that categoy. But he can do it effective enough to respcet his drive.

Slasher: Someone, usually a guard who moves without the ball and gets his points off assists from other people

Scorer: Someone who is good at scoring, able to take people off the dribble, or in the post.

Game Results 12/21/08:
Detroit lost to Atlanta 78-85
Dallas beats Washington 97-86
New York loses to Boston 105-124
Cleveland beats Oklahoma City 102-91

Katsuro_Igarashi said:

"Slasher: Someone, usually a guard who moves without the ball and gets his points off assists from other people

Scorer: Someone who is good at scoring, able to take people off the dribble, or in the post."

No , slashing is some who attacks the rim and takes guys off the dribble. Its a form of scoring.


Scoring is taking the ball and putting it in the hoop. Whether its through shooting jumpers, shooting 3s, driving to the rack(slashing), low post or moving without the basketball and scoring. And there arent types of scorers. Anyone can score the basketball. But these are the categories, Bad Scorers (guys that can't effeciently score the basketball), Capable Scorers(guys that can score off of certain parts of the court, Bruce Bowen shooting the corner 3s, Udonis Haslem hitting the baseline jumper etc. but not everyday scorers), and there are Good Scorers/Great Scorers(Guys that can fill it up, guys that can take ball and score. No matter where you are in the post or on the perimiter). Great Scorers are the elite scorign players in the league no matter what position. They're are most likely the leading scorer of their respective teams. Most of them are the guys that take shots the big shots in the 4th Quarter. Crunch time. And Clutch guys like Robert Horry who makes the clutch baskets, they don't always have to be good scorers mind you.

Katsuro_Igarashi said:

"Game Results 12/21/08:
Detroit lost to Atlanta 78-85
Dallas beats Washington 97-86
New York loses to Boston 105-124
Cleveland beats Oklahoma City 102-91"

At least my biy Nate Robinson went off.

No... a slasher is someone who moves without the ball to get open and score. They try to catch lazy defenders off guard.

Example: Rip Hamilton, Dwayne Wade (sometimes),

And by your definition of slashing, then Lebron James would be a better slasher than Dwayne Wade.

Katsuro_Igarashi said:

"No... a slasher is someone who moves without the ball to get open and score. They try to catch lazy defenders off guard.

Example: Rip Hamilton, Dwayne Wade (sometimes),

And by your definition of slashing, then Lebron James would be a better slasher than Dwayne Wade."

LeBron is is probably up there but Wade can make more difficult AND1s and gets to foul line more than LeBron.