So, I'm in this argument with this guy, and he keeps telling me GT is canon. Is it?
No, it isn't canon
Here what canon and what isn't
http://www.animevice.com/dragon-ball/10-1/dragonball-canon/97-327277/
No, it isn't canon
Here what canon and what isn't
http://www.animevice.com/dragon-ball/10-1/dragonball-canon/97-327277/
@MarioRedfield said:
I've been meaning to post this here:
George Lucas once said that the Star Wars EU isn't canon, yet no one takes it seriously. You can consider GT to be canon if you want.
In that world there is levels of canon
@Supreme Marvel: Oh wow, that's extremely dumb. But in any case, it still kind of brings up the point, if you say the "creator's word" is final say for what is and isn't canon, don't make a double standard out of it. People have also made the argument that nothing Superman related is canon since Siegel and Shuster haven't written in so long, it doesn't make it valid.
@MarioRedfield: I got that from an avid Star Wars fan. I don't actually read or like the films. Well Siegal and Shuster sold the rights to Superman to DC for $100 so they should have had no more say in the matter. But because their greedy families want more, they went to court over it. You don't see the families of Bob Kane and Bill Finger going to court about Batman rights do you?
@Supreme Marvel: Also true. But I think it is a bit arrogant to assume you have ultimate authority over it just because you create it. It's not like he did everything by himself, so others have a say over it as well and he can be over ruled. It's not like he's a novelist and it was all his work completely.
@DBZ_universe: I was looking for an excuse to say this anyway
@MarioRedfield said:
@Supreme Marvel: Also true. But I think it is a bit arrogant to assume you have ultimate authority over it just because you create it. It's not like he did everything by himself, so others have a say over it as well and he can be over ruled. It's not like he's a novelist and it was all his work completely.
Well Lucas owned the rights to it all. He DID have authority over it. Everyone was afraid to tell him that his ideas were shit. For proof, watch the Star Wars films. They're shit!
Personally, if I had created a story, I would rather I have the final word, unless I sold the rights, then I'd have accepted someone else taking responsibility over my work. I'm very protective of my own works. As Lucas should be. Well now he's sold it, his canon can go out the window with whatever Disney decide.
Toriyama's work was the manga, that is what's canon. The animé are representations of that. Since GT was studio created and not Toriyama created, it has no bearing on canon.
@Supreme Marvel: I still agree what you what you just said, but I do still do think t's a double standard to take on creator's word as fact and not the other. I would be willing to admit Toriyama's word is final on the matter of DBZ if Star Wars fans would admit Lucas's word on the EU is final.
@MarioRedfield said:
@Supreme Marvel: I still agree what you what you just said, but I do still do think t's a double standard to take on creator's word as fact and not the other. I would be willing to admit Toriyama's word is final on the matter of DBZ if Star Wars fans would admit Lucas's word on the EU is final.
I do agree that Lucas' word on Star Wars was final. I'm not a Star Wars fan. However, now he doesn't own the rights. What he's done so far can be altered. I'm sure they (Disney) won't though. They have a fanbase to protect.
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