The Avatar Club

Topic started by Destinyheroknight on Nov. 8, 2013. Last post by takashichea 1 week ago.
Post by Yusuke52 (441 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@takashichea:

In my eyes piracy is born out of neglect. The less you care about the people, the more piracy you have.

What I mean by that is if you make something easily accessible to all for reasonable prices and high of a high enough quality that the people see you put good honest hard work into it with no favouritism you will notice that less people will go and pirate something.

The only notable companies that share this view with me are game development/distribution companies like CDProjektRED, the development company that makes The Witcher games and also has a site where they sell games without any DRM for reasonable prices, and Steam, notorious for its sales every few months which drop games down to virtually nothing.

CDProjektRED even did a survey on piracy of The Witcher 2 with and without DRM, and they noticed a very large decrease in piracy when they released it again without DRM, the same will go for The Witcher 3 which launches with no piracy and CDProjektRED even has it on sale right now on their site, you get a bigger discount if you already own 1 and 2 which is great.

They drove the price of games up over here from the normal £40 (which was already criminal given the quality of some of these supposed "AAA" games) to around £55/60. Not exactly accessible when the minimum wage is much lower than it should be, and the overall quality of these games does not warrant such a price tag. That and then you get places like Australia which have the living hell censored out of their games to the point where they are just shells of what they were originally.

Look at Destiny for a Triple-A game that was disappointing as hell considering the money that went into its creation and the hype it was generating. $500 MILLION, and yet it’s story was borderline criminal and they admitted about a week ago that most of the end game content (Where they say the game actually begins ironically enough) is either “Doesn’t work as intended” or “is actually broken”.

To me piracy is less of a crime and more of an eye opener for both companies and people, and should be seen as a place to improve. If people are pirating it means it's either costing them too much to buy, impossible to get a hold of, or simply too low quality to even warrant spending your hard earned money on. But it's mostly just old men in the boardrooms these days so out of touch with the modern world that they only see it as a loss in income and that anyone who is withholding money from them should be sent straight to jail. That’s why places like Netflix are doing so well, it's a tiny payment of a few pounds every month and you get unlimited access to as much TV and Movie stuff as you want, great value for money and it's accessible for literally everything these days so that's another point in its court. The only thing holding it back over here in all honesty is the fact that it's library is woefully under stocked compared to the American one, if they sort that out them I might re-subscribe, I enjoyed binge watching some stuff on Netflix while doing work. For anyone who does pirate, it’s a chance to see if this product is actually worth spending money on.

Radical view in the eyes of most people I’m sure but I stick by it.

Football and Soaps are huge over here, we have one that has been broadcasting a couple of times weekly since the 60s, and it's got more than 8450 episodes currently. If you don't like one or the other you are considered somewhat strange in most people’s eyes because you are either really into it them or not at all. I don't like football at all, never been my sport so I don't mix well with the football fanatics. I think people over here still see anime as a "children’s show" given that to most it would look similar to the likes of a children’s cartoon, but most wouldn't even sit down and watch it to see if it's anything more than that. That's what annoys me more than anything, people who judge something without giving it a chance. I would never bring up Anime in public around where I live unless someone else brought it up first, or I was with friends, just not worth any hassle you might get for it.

For Korra, I think it's because each arc, unlike The Last Airbender, stands alone for the most part with only the bare minimum of connections to the last arc to still warrant calling it “The Legend of Korra”. Aangs story felt more "complete" not to mention it was actually longer anyway. My worry is that with only 13 episodes to finish this I hope they give it something great and not something that make people think that they should of had more time to flesh it out. That’s the problem with shows when they only have 10 or so episodes to work something out, you have to cut little details that enrich the story, or entire scenes because it's running too long. Game of Thrones is a good example of this as it cuts out parts that would really enhance the story simply because they either don't have the time or don't see the need for them in the first place.

I just hope they give it a satisfying end and leave it open for maybe another venture into the Avatar world at a later date, I have been hearing rumours lately that they might actually close the ending for any possible sequel story, which is saddening considering the possibility of the universe they have created.

Post by takashichea (13,219 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@Yusuke52:

I can't think straight since I was working pretty late at night again this week. Then, I got hit by my allergies. My reply will be short. Your views are piracy is great and was from another angle I haven't seen, neglect. For me, what I observed is that piracy comes from fans who want to see a show or read a manga but it's not available in their country legally. They have to resort to any means.

That's the demand behind fan scanlations. All these manga series, only a fraction gets licensed for countries mostly western outside of Japan. Countries like in Africa and many others who are small in demand will have to resort piracy. It's not a choice for them. In the states, you have more options. Like you mention, these legal sites, Crunchyroll, FUNimation, HULU, and Netflix have their limitations of what they pick up. Despite there is competition, folks benefit from competition because it normally lowers price for them. In this type of marketing, subscribing isn't going to let folks to freely sample each company and save money. As a mod, I have to stick with promoting things legally in the site. It's an oath we sign. I only violated once for one show.

I feel the same way with anime. It's more easy for me to identify with video game interest in public than anime. I do see people treating anime as children show or as adult porn. It was never in the middle. I talked with friends. Most of them are not into anime like I am. They share stereotypes of anime. Most of them are gamers or comic book lovers.

For Korra, each Book feels separate o how they are constructed. You end the book by defeating the villain. Avatar had a book villain and overarching story with the big villain at the end. I agree how it Avatar felt more complete than Korra. I hope this universe generates spin-offs and such. It has build something with plenty of material and potential for fans, new and old, to enjoy.

Post by takashichea (13,219 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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Episode 1 of Book 4

I thought the series was going to broadcast on TV. It was online. It felt strange.

  • Bolin and Opal's relationship might be deteriorating.
  • Don't know Kuvira well. She doesn't seem like a type of villain from Book 3
  • Both Mako and Bolin work under Earth Kingdom folks

Seeing how things change in three years was interesting. That's what I love about time skips.

Post by Yusuke52 (441 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Sorry for the late reply, I was feeling sick myself most of yesterday.

Yeah Nick pulled Korra from the TV after they reportedly got low ratings. Not surprising when they put it in a horrible timeslot like they did. I think they went back to broadcasting reruns of spongebob or something of that nature instead, since they don't seem to care that much for a new IPs. The rest of Book 4 is going to be online through their American site. I'm more surprised by the fact that it was only a single episode and not a double, first time they have done that in 4 Books.

Bolin and Opal will likely be fine by the end, I can't see the creators breaking down another relationship especially considering this is the end of the series too. But it would depend of the type of ending they are going for, and given they haven’t shied away from suicide and murder it wouldn't surprise me. It might be interesting to see Eskas reaction to them if she shows up as some point mind you.

I would say Kuvira is playing the leader to garner more support in the public eye, but I would call it now and say I wouldn't be surprised if the bandits are working for her too, going around and destabilizing regions so she can swoop in and take control. I just want to know how she got the job in the first place, seems like quite a promotion in all honesty.

Underground street brawler Korra was kinda awesome too see, if somewhat saddening given how broken she was at the end of Book 3 only to fall even further down at the start of Book 4. I hope they give her some more screen time next episode.

Post by takashichea (13,219 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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2nd episode of Book 4

Finally got to see Toph. Korra is having Raava hallucinations, I think. Compared to Aang, she has a lot of pride in herself. I forget that, sometimes. I like how Korra's rehab to learn to walk can be related to folks with disability.

@Yusuke52:

Sorry, I didn't see your comment. I would love to Eska's face when she finds out Bolin has another girl. Your guess about the bandits might come true. Kuvira was smiling evilly. Three years can change a lot about a person. When I first saw her, I thought she was a minor character in Book 3.

Post by Yusuke52 (441 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@takashichea: Seeing Toph was cool, hopefully they will go more into what was happening with her in the next episode.

I just got the vibe that she might have been controlling the bandits, they are a huge problem for everyone until she rolls into town and then they suddenly disappear and move on to the next area. Couple that with how scared they were when they unknowingly attacked her train and I would say she is involved somehow.

I’m just curious how she got the job in the first place, there were plenty of people more qualified for it and she was, as you said, a relatively minor character in comparison to the people who could have lead the unification.

Post by takashichea (13,219 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@Yusuke52:

I guess Kuvira got into power through Bataar Jr., and it must be really awkward for little Opal.

Motives

  • Amon - Eradicate bending since it's the source of all conflicts
  • Unalaq - Being the ruler of the spirit world when combined with Vaatu.
  • Zaheer - Abolishing all government and letting the natural order, chaos, prevail
  • Kuvira - Maybe, she wants the Earth Kingdom for herself.
Post by takashichea (13,219 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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Here's a trailer for tomorrow's episode:

Post by Yusuke52 (441 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@takashichea: Only got around to watching the new episode this morning.

These trailers seem to be just first looks of early peeks if anything, I would love it if they really did a proper trailer for the last few episodes at least, I think they did that for the Sozins Comet "Movie" back in book 3 anyway, I remember watching a trailer for it a few minutes before it aired on over here TV years ago.

Another good episode regardless, at least we know what Kuviras ulterior motive was. And Eska did show up too, shame she didn't meet Opal thought, that would have been more interesting.

Post by takashichea (13,219 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@Yusuke52:

I just finished watching the episode while I was working after coming home tonight. I feel the rushing and making sneak peeks less special to make this last season a bit memorable. I agree they should be making trailers better.

Seeing Toph tormenting poor Korra bring back memories of how she treated Aang. I thought Raava leaving Korra's body was more of a spiritual issue. Looks like remnants of metal poisoning was also a factor. Then again, Korra might be facing both physical and spiritual trauma.

Ah yes, I was waiting to Eska's reactions towards Opal. Oh well. Looks Varrick is up to no good with his spiritual vine experiments. Seeing Mako and Bolin fight added more to the drama.

Speaking of Bolin and Mako, have you heard of Republic City Hustle? It's a short 3 episode micro series that stars Mako and Bolin and how they got into pro bending.

Post by Yusuke52 (441 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@takashichea: I would almost bet that it's mostly a mental issue which would also mess her up spiritually too, PTSD or something of that nature I would imagine. Toph herself hinted that it could be after she tried to remove the mercury.

I'm sure we will see Eska and Opal together at some point, Bolin serves as the comedy of the group and I can imagine that scene would make for a laugh, I would be amazed if they didn't to be honest.

And Varricks experiments I would guess are related to a new and more powerful energy source to power some of his new weapons, maybe an improved mecha tank or maybe a way to give artificial bending to others.

And no I never heard of it, I will have to check it out later on. But it looks interesting though, very different style from the usual animation. It's good that you can get a complete picture for those two since we already got a glimpse of their past back in Book 3. The Korra game that’s coming out in a few days bridges the gap between Book 2 and 3 I believe, not sure if it's entirely canon but I imagine it is given they have the series writer doing the story for it.

Post by takashichea (13,219 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@Yusuke52:

Not to spoil you, but what Bolin said in his argument with Mako about Kuvira is similar to what Bolin said in one of the Hustle episodes. Korra and Avatar has good writing and all the pieces fit together.

Speaking of prequels that build the series, I'm going to purchase the Rift series as soon as the omnibus becomes available. I have bought the series in separate issues. They are so thin and fragile.

I heard Rift focuses on how Aang build Republic City while it covers Toph's relationship with her parents.

As for Varrick, I definitely see how that fits into play.

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