ShonenExperiences: Moving From Fairy Tail to One Piece and Toriko

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Hello everyone, I'm Taka, your neighborhood wiki editor. In this blog, I'll share my experiences getting into One Piece and Toriko from a Fairy Tail fan's perspective and tell you whether you should or should not try these two Shonen series if you're unfamiliar with it.

How I got into One Piece and Toriko?

I got into One Piece back in Summer 2012 while I got into Toriko back in November 2013 because I saw a lot of folks talking about it. In One Piece's case, DestinyHeroKnight and ShadowKnight508 were the ones who pushed me into One Piece. For Toriko, I got interested because of Taichokage, Othus12, SpeedForceSpider, and the rest of the battle gang.

Note: I hit my word limit for the blog''s title.

Should FT fans Get Into One Piece?

One Piece by Eiichiro Oda

Monkey D. Luffy refuses to let anyone or anything stand in the way of his quest to become king of all pirates. With a course charted for the treacherous waters of the Grand Line, this is one captain who’ll never drop anchor until he’s claimed the greatest treasure on Earth – the Legendary One Piece!

Yes, most fans will get into One Piece because there is so many similarities. It's a lot easier to transition into One Piece from Fairy Tail because of the similarities. Here is a brief list of what these two franchises share in common.

Luffy's crew and Natsu's Fairy Tail guild gets into trouble with the law. Both sides fight for their Nakama and time skips. The differences are that One Piece is about the exploration and fight towards their dreams. Fairy Tail doesn't really have a goal. It seems like an endless adventure with evil guilds and groups who messes with Fairy Tail guild. For Natsu, he was searching for his father, Igneel, in episode 1. It never pops up again. Both series are warm hearted and funny, but One Piece's fight scenes have some blood, and it isn't afraid of showing people dying, both manga and anime. Fairy Tail's anime is bloodless compared to its manga.

Sometimes, you wonder if Fairy Tail is ripping off One Piece with its scenes and certain characters (Shanks and Gildarts Clive).

I posted this table in DestinyHeroKnight's I prefer One Piece over Fairy Tail a long time ago.

One PieceSimilarities and DifferencesFairy Tail
Monkey D. Luffy
Monkey D. Luffy

Similarities

  • Both Natsu and Luffy are oblivious to women's feelings for them. (IE: Luffy to Boa Hancock and Natsu to Lucy (who's unsure).
  • Both are big eaters and smile a hell lot.
  • Both won't back down when their friends' lives are at stake.
  • Both have scars. Luffy has one underneath his left eye and a big one on his chest. Natsu has one at his neck.

Differences

  • Luffy is a rubber man who can stretch while Natsu's a Dragon Slayer with fire powers.
  • Occupations: Luffy is a pirate, and Natsu is a mage. Same goes for everyone in this list
  • Weaknesses: Luffy can't swim, and sharp objects are bad. In Natsu's case, motion sickness.
Natsu Dragneel
Natsu Dragneel
Nami
Nami

Similarities

  • Both love money and have large breasts.
  • Both lost a loved one. (IE: Nami's adopted mother Bellemere and Lucy's Layla Heartfilia)

Differences

  • Background: Lucy comes from a rich family while Nami's family is poor.
  • Nami is a navigator who knows geography and anything in her field well. Lucy is book smart in Celestial Magic.
  • Nami has a tragic past.
Lucy Heartfilia
Lucy Heartfilia
Roronoa Zoro
Roronoa Zoro

Similarities

  • Both lost a loved one who is also female. (IE: Zoro's Kuina and Gray's Ur).
  • Both compete with the main character, Zoro w/ Luffy and Gray w/ Natsu. Though, Natsu and Gray' are more rivals than Zoro and Luffy.
  • Both are brawlers.
  • Both attract strange women. For Gray, it's Juvia while for Zoro, it's Perona.

Differences

  • Zoro is a swordsman while Gray is an ice mage.
  • Zoro has no sense of direction.
Gray Fullbuster
Gray Fullbuster
Chopper
Chopper

Similarities

  • Chopper and Happy are sort of like the comic relief characters.

Differences

  • Chopper is a doctor while Happy has no profession.
  • Happy loves to troll his friends while Chopper is a bit respectful.
  • Chopper has several forms.
  • Only Happy can fly.
Happy
Happy
Nico Robin
Nico Robin

Similarities

  • Both have tragic pasts, but they differ. Nico's story is her people being massacred when her home island, Ohara, was eradicated off the map. She was always on the run because folks would betray her and turn in. For Erza, she is a former slave forced to resurrect Zeref at the Tower of Heaven.
  • Both lived on islands.
  • Both are well endowed.

Differences

  • Nico has seen her parents, but Erza has never seen hers.
  • Abilities: Nico has the Hana Hana fruit while Erza has the ability to requip different armors. Erza has a uniform fetish.
Erza Scarlet
Erza Scarlet

Quick Breakdown of One Piece

For Fairy Tail fans, you should try One Piece out. I quickly list some pros and cons.

Pros

  • Different Style of Humor
  • A wealth of characters that have quirks (such as laughter Saul's Dereshi and that Amazon's Za za za)
  • Origin Stories are pretty deep
  • Characters die permanently or stay dead in One Piece. You will shed a tear or at least sympathize with the characters. Fairy Tail is too soft with its character deaths (with the exception of Simon and the others). I got angry at Fairy Tail for bringing back one character (L****a) and never expand her relationship with one character.
  • One Piece capitalizes on exploration than Fairy Tail.
  • Fight Scenes - One Piece's longer for sure. The quality of the fight between the two series depends on the fan's tastes. If you want serious fights, One Piece and Fairy Tail will disappoint you. There are comedic moments where the good guys and enemies fool around. I notice that fans hate Sting's fight with Erza's Fairy Tail group because it ended without much resistance. One Piece's fights go all out.

Cons

  • Story arcs in One Piece are way longer than Fairy Tail's (might be a hit or miss for fans who prefer shorter arcs)
  • Fan Service - Fairy Tail has more T & A than One Piece until the time skip in One Piece. However, Fairy Tail went full on nudity with Lucy and the gang, more hot spring and beach scenes. Fairy Tail is quite liberal with clothing damage than One Piece. Lucy's clothes fall apart faster than Nami during battle.
  • No Lolis and Other Fetishes - I don't think One Piece has girls like Wendy Marvell. Fairy Tail caters to a wide variety of fetishes than One Piece. One Piece (after time skip) emphasizes on boobs. Fairy Tail got boobs, pettanko, maids, waitresses, and megane.
  • Fillers - It's hard to say. Fairy Tail had a huge filler arc at the end before the tournament arc. Fairy Tail doesn't do flashback fillers. I remember in Water Seven, One Piece did a few episodes that recap the Straw Hat crew's struggles.
  • Romance - You definitely have some shipping in both series. For One Piece, it's mostly unrequited love between Boa and Luffy. In Fairy Tail's case, part of the fun is with the cast who can be shipped and teased in many ways. Fairy Tail has more romance in it than One Piece.

Should FT Fans Try Toriko?

Toriko by Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro

The world is full of deliciously deadly ingredients that the wealthiest appetites in existence can't wait to devour. Toriko, the legendary Gourmet Hunter, is ready and willing to track down the rarest animals on the planet and put them on a plate!

Toriko is a different Shonen beast. Like One Piece, Toriko is about exploration with an emphasis on food. When I first read the premise, I was puzzled on how a show can be all about hunting the best ingredients and filling out one's Full Course Menu. A Full Course Menu is a Gourmet Hunter's dream menu. I admit it was awkward getting into Toriko, but I enjoyed it after reading the first few chapters. For the characters, One Piece and Fairy Tail's characters start off weak. For Toriko, I believe they start off strong. Toriko is well known due to his Four Heavenly King reputation I haven't read past chapter 80 or so, the Century Soup Arc. I might be wrong.

Quick Break on Toriko

Pro

  • Fight Scenes are pretty great and brief. Since I haven't got far in Toriko, I can't really confirm if Fairy Tail's fights are longer or shorter than Toriko's. The fights in Toriko are like One Piece. Characters will use their wits and their abilities to beat their enemies rather than powering up like in Natsu Dragneel's case.
  • A compassionate, weak character who is a Dude in Distress - Komatsu was one interesting side character. He remind me of Manta Oyamada (Shaman King) more than Krillin of DBZ. Fairy Tail does have weak characters, but they're not a key supporting character.
  • Toriko isn't sexist - I could be wrong here since Othus12 and the gang told me Tina was a damsel. I haven't watch past episode 10 in the anime. Since Fairy Tail has more girls, Lucy and some of the gals were damsels. Toriko actually had Komatsu do a bit of gender reversal role. Toriko doesn't rely on sex appeal for its audience. It's worth noting it. One Piece's Time Skip went with the fan service route, Nami, Boa, and Nico.
  • Story arcs - Fairy Tail and Toriko's are roughly the same length up to the part where I left off, but I could be wrong here.
  • Toriko has more bromance than Fairy Tail.

Con

  • Fan Service - In this current era of anime, I'm surprised that Toriko has a huge male cast just like Dragon Ball Z. Most anime series you see out there have a cute gal who tags along with the male hero (IE: Ichigo and Rukia, Natsu and Lucy, and most harem series). Though, Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball manage to deliver fan service and beautiful women. Being left off at the Century Soup Arc with 80 chapters in, Rin is the only predominant female character. For the anime, they introduce Tina. It depends on your tastes. Most Fairy Tail fans I know love T & A (some don't admit it, but I know they do), so most of them will find Toriko disappointing in this section.
  • Fillers - I leave this blank for Toriko fans.
  • Lack of Romance - I haven't seen much love. Fairy Tail's romantic relationships are fun to watch. Fans would ship characters. When I got into Toriko, the only person shipped was Rin and Toriko. Though, Toriko is like Goku and Luffy. Plus, Rin doesn't have much of a spotlight. It's hard to root for Rin.

I do want to make a table for Toriko and Fairy Tail's characters, but there isn't much similarities and not enough girls on Toriko's side.

Thank everyone for reading this blog. I hope you enjoy Toriko and One Piece. Feel free to drop a comment or a correction (since I wasn't far into Toriko).

TorikoSimilarities and DifferencesFairy Tail
Toriko
Toriko

Similarities

  • Both Natsu and Toriko are oblivious to women's feelings for them. (IE: Toriko to Rin? and Natsu to Lucy (who's unsure).
  • Both are big eaters.
  • Both have a sharp sense of smell.

Differences

  • Toriko is human with superhuman qualities (Nail, Fork techniques) while Natsu's a Dragon Slayer with fire powers.
  • Occupations: Toriko is a Gourmet Hunter, and Natsu is a mage.
  • Weaknesses: I'm not sure about Toriko's weakness. Natsu has motion sickness.
  • Toriko is more mature than Natsu.
Natsu Dragneel
Natsu Dragneel
Tina
Tina

Similarities

  • Both appeared often (anime for Tina only)
  • Both are damsels in distress
  • Both have pets. Lucy has Plue while Tina has Kruppoh.

Differences

  • Lucy has hots for Natsu, but she won't admit it. Tina and Toriko are friends, nothing more, but that's not what Rin feels about Tina and Toriko.
  • Occupation: Tina is a reporter while Lucy is a mage.
  • Tina is not a fighter.
  • Lucy wears more revealing outfits than Tina. Lucy's bustier than Tina.
Lucy Heartfilia
Lucy Heartfilia
Komatsu
Komatsu

Similarities

  • Both are side characters
  • Komatsu and Happy can't fend for themselves.
  • Both are Dudes in Distress

Differences

  • Komatsu's a chef while Happy is a flying, talking cat.
  • Happy got a girlfriend, Carla, but Carla doesn't reciprocate it back. Komatsu is single.
Happy
Happy
Post by katmic (306 posts) See mini bio Level 10

I cannot see any similarities between Fairy tail and Toriko. They come off as very different series in my mind. Toriko is a difficult anime to watch, at least for me. Sometimes its amazing, other times it seems way too dumb to watch, though i have heard so much about it that i am encouraged to keep watching it, and maybe read the manga after. it's even more quirky than one piece.

As far as quality is concerned i would place Once piece at the top, followed by toriko and then fairy tail.

Despite its issues when toriko gets good, its really good. fairy tail rarely rises above average. maybe its the whole death thing. You never feel the threat with fairy tail.

Toriko kind of reminds me of Jojo's bizarrre adventure with all those muscly characters. The series is worth commending though, that a story about food can be so entertaining sometimes.

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@katmic:

I agree that Toriko and Fairy Tail had very little similarities. I didn't get much, and I wasn't too far deep in Toriko. It's a weird experience transitioning from Fairy Tail to Toriko. I know Toriko wasn't that popular in this particular community. Toriko's premise is quite unique, but it was enjoyable. Regarding your quality take on Toriko, One Piece, and Fairy Tail, it all depends on your tastes.

  • In story department, One Piece would be top while Fairy Tail and Toriko would be on par (I can't really say about Toriko's story since I only read 80 chapters).
  • Diversity of characters belongs to One Piece. Toriko's roster suffers from the lack of female characters. Fairy Tail would be second.
  • Fan Service - Toriko would be at the bottom while Fairy Tail would be on top.
  • Fight Scenes - I can't tell about Toriko other than the first few fights are brief like Fairy Tail. One Piece's fight scenes are the longest out of the three.

In the end, this blog is about recommending Toriko and One Piece to Fairy Tail fans who are looking for a new Shonen series to try. I'm breaking down what parts that One Piece and Toriko did well and poorly in.

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@takashichea: 2 questions...

1. Do you reccomend watching the entire One Piece anime? I ask because it nearly has 700 episodes, and I want to accomplish other things this year XD.

2. Should I watch the Toriko anime, or read the manga? I have heard from the Toriko folk that the anime is bad...

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@Vapovile:

I rushed this blog last night because I had Church in the morning. I didn't expand on how I got into One Piece and Toriko section.

For One Piece, like you, I was overwhelmed at the sheer amount of episodes and chapters. In Summer 2012 Experience: Trying Some New Anime and Manga, I only read up to Skypiea story arc in the manga in one month. That was about 300 chapters. When Fairy Tail anime ended in March 2013, I told my teammates on the Fairy Tail project that I was going to watch the anime instead of reading from the manga. I told them I would skipping the story right to Water Seven Arc rather than watching the anime from the beginning or from Skypiea arc. They told me it wasn't a good idea because you won't enjoy it as much.

I did it anyways. I still enjoy One Piece, but I had less empathy for the characters because I haven't build a close relationship with the characters. Unlike anime series that are episodic (meaning it has no story), you can jump in at any time (IE: Seitokai Yakuindomo, King of Bandit Jing?). When you deal with One Piece and its kind, you have to start from the beginning. You'll miss origin stories that build the characters. For One Piece, it's better to read the manga if you want to get there faster. The anime has a slow pacing than Fairy Tail and Magi.

Regarding Toriko, it's the same thing I seen with Fairy Tail. Both Fairy Tail and Toriko manga are uncensored with its violence. Fairy Tail manga has more T & A shots than the anime. Every 2 pages, you see Lucy's ass or boobs in Fairy Tail. For Toriko, the anime is more brutally censored than Fairy Tail. I only watch 10 episodes of Toriko and I saw that some characters and beasts that were brutally eaten by other beasts or killed by other humans were censored or skip over in the anime version.

Plus, the voices in Toriko anime (sub and dub) wasn't stellar. I had a hard time adjusting to Komatsu's voice in the sub. Don't know why. I read the manga before the anime, so the voices that I pictured in my head for the characters didn't match. Toriko, Coco, and Sunny's voice in sub sound fine, but Komatsu's voice is a bit irritating personally.

Summary

  1. If you don't have time, read the manga every day. Set your own pacing. When I was reading One Piece back in June 2012, I read 5-15 chapters a day.
  2. For Toriko, read the manga if you want uncensored violence.
Post by taichokage (12,643 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Great article. One Piece in particular has many similarities to both Toriko and Fairy Tail. There are fewer between Toriko and Fairy Tail though.
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@Vapovile: IMO i would pick the manga even though i watch the anime also, but its mostly because if i have more free time in the my next semester i might want to work on the toriko wiki. By the way im not saying the anime is bad ( I really enjoy watching it actually) its just that the manga for me is better. 
Post by Acer. (137 posts) See mini bio Level 9
As a massive Toriko fan, definitely read the manga. Whilst the anime does a good job of portraying the sense of wonder and adventure. The lack of blood and the sense of danger is severely missing. Not to mention the inclusion of a certain annoying character.
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@taichokage:

I didn't know who to compared to for Komatsu. I had Happy. For Rin and Tina, I have no idea, so I went with Tina. Thank you.

@waybig1010101:

I welcome you to the Toriko wiki project, but don't forget to check out the Anime Vice Wiki Style Guide. Taichokage did a good job on Sunny's page and left the feats off. When I see folks from battle threads, they end up writing feats instead of listing abilities and techniques for the power section.

@Acer.:

Oh so Toriko shares that same thing with Fairy Tail, the lack of death, as Katmic pointed out earlier.

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@takashichea: For the wiki i really hope i have more free time to work on it next semester and if i do have free time im sure i'll need help with the wiki style so expect some questions friend 
Post by Acer. (137 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@takashichea: It's not the lack of death, but the lack of feeling that the characters are in genuine danger. The manga genuinely leaves you shocked at times, whilst the anime offers no such feeling. You rarley ever see death in shounen, especially with the protagonists. Though at times a character should be killed off under the correct circumstances. A good example would be Ace & Whitebeard. A bad example of keeping a character alive when he should have died is Makarov.
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@waybig1010101:

Sure thing, I know school is top priority. I wish I could take a break since I'm in school, too. I have to keep on working.

Post by katmic (306 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Basically these shows go hand in hand. if you like one piece, then toriko and fairy tail will work for you. Though if you read and liked fairy tail first, toriko might prove to be a little too much for you. I watched one piece from ep 1 to skypia arc. Then 2/4 into skypia i gave up. That's how pointlessly long it was. I jumped all the way to the middle of the sabody arc a year later and have never looked back. The thing with one piece is it has so many lengthy flashbacks that after 30 or so episodes you will have caught up with all you missed.

Post by katmic (306 posts) See mini bio Level 10

I have never understood the complaint about one piece having too many episodes to catch up. The first time i watched and got into one piece i was ecstatic that i had up to 400 episodes to watch and i wouldn't have to wait each week for a new episode. Same for naruto. I started it just as the first part was ending and that only excited me, watching entire arcs in one go.

If you find yourself with a huge back log of anime episodes to watch or manga chapters to read, surely that can only be a good thing if you end up enjoying the anime or manga. because waiting can be a pain.

Post by bigz007 (1,088 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Now this is seriously getting troublesome, I really need to check out Toriko.

Post by Acer. (137 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@katmic: If a series is good enough, people will lose themselves in them. And for me One Piece is such a series.
@bigz007: You really really should.
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@Acer.:

I forgot to reply to you last night. Your post was around the same time as my response to WayBig.

Thanks for the correction. I haven't got far in Toriko, but both series are similar in that lack of threats now we established it. They whould have killed off Lisanna because bringing her back had less impact on Natsu, Mirajane, and Elfman. Does Toriko bring back folks from the dead?

Since you're a Toriko fan, am I right about the fan service part and the women in Toriko? I only got up the Century Soup arc (manga) and Regal Mammoth arc (anime).

@katmic:

It's not a complaint. The reason why folks are discouraged or overwhelmed by the sheer amount of episodes and manga is either hard to marathon or that they don't simply have time to commit. Not a lot of folks have the luxury of time. I know one guy watch from the beginning of One Piece, one episode a day. He hasn't caught up, but he enjoys the series. I just notice most folks who are not Shonen fans will want a shorter series. I cannot recommend to them, One Piece. I'll recommend shows like Attack on Titan, Fullmetal Alchemist, Soul Eater, and such shows less than 50-60 episodes. One Piece is a great show, but it does discourage casual fans at first. If they enjoy it, then they will keep on going.

As for skipping, it depends on the person's preferences. Yes, they do flashback fillers of the Straw Hat crew like I seen in Water Seven. There are filler arcs to skip. For the main story arcs, it's hard to skip some of them. You might miss a few scenes that builds up the character and story.

@bigz007:

You should try it just to see if you like it.

Post by othus12 (6,324 posts) See mini bio Level 12

one piece has pretty long battles though the likes of naruto have even longer battles.

toriko has fast paced full of action battles but what's been enjoyable for me is the lack of self preservation the characters have when fighting (sani letting tommy pierce his organs just to get him close, toriko losing a hand just to connect a punch, etc etc.)

@bigz007: if you check toriko i suggest you go for the manga. its leagues better.

Post by takashichea (10,965 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@othus12:

Sorry for the late reply. Been working on community projects.

Thanks for clearing it up. I wasn't sure if Toriko's battles were longer than One Piece or Fairy Tail since I only watched up to Century Soup Arc (I finally got to Tommyrod vs Toriko fight as of last weekend).

That's good for fans who hate long anime battles.

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I should draw some comments from this blog. It will help promote users for the Toriko article that WayBig and I will send to Tom soon.

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